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Really Bad Landing Video  
User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 16900 times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRin-iBj_Vs











I'll bet you thought that was the Heineken commercial  Wink

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User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16799 times:

Quoting Graphic (Thread starter):
I'll bet you thought that was the Heineken commercial

I did.  Angry

It looks to be either a 717 or MD-90. The engine intakes have a large diameter.


User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16782 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 1):
I'll bet you thought that was the Heineken commercial

Me too.

Now is that increase in lights from the tail hitting the tarmac, or are the lights in the background (i.e. at the end of the strip) brighter when the plane lands?

I concur - looks like a 717 to me



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User currently offlineKhelmDTW From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16754 times:

My money is on a 717 or MD-95  rotfl 

(some Boeing nuts will get the joke)



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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16675 times:

Looks like a 717 to me. Also looks like Bullshit.

User currently offlineN272WA From Ireland, joined Jun 2007, 410 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16151 times:

LOL. funny vid....  Smile


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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2026 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16120 times:

Seems to be a fake, because 1. the tail never hits the tarmac. And 2. you never will see such an explosion because of a tail strike. 3. The explosion seems to be far behind the plane.

Axel



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User currently offlineFlyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16111 times:

The tail does not look like it even comes close to the runway. It also looks like the display was well behind the tail of the plane. I think the display is fireworks set off just as the plane lands...the camera is just in the right spot to film the whole thing. Convenient don't you think.

Mike


User currently offlineGokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16059 times:

Quoting Graphic (Thread starter):
'll bet you thought that was the Heineken commercial Wink

Thanks for the link, also saw the A380 VMU tests that I haven't seen before(for some odd reason) on the related videos section.



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15975 times:

What's up with the cheesy inspirational music??  rotfl 


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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3517 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 15728 times:

Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 7):
The tail does not look like it even comes close to the runway.

Huh? The tail strikes the runway hard. What are you guys looking at?

The part of the runway the tail strikes is partially obscured by haze. But you can easily see it if you pause before the tail strike. This is a tail strike.

Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 7):
It also looks like the display was well behind the tail of the plane.

Probably because the plane is moving, while the "display" is not...

Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 7):
I think the display is fireworks set off just as the plane lands...

Yeah, because airports routinely allow fireworks displays to be set off underneath landing airliners.

Edit: I realize you're probably arguing that this is a model... but whether or not it's a model, it's a tail strike. It doesn't look like a model to me, though.

[Edited 2007-06-15 16:41:11]


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User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5084 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 15452 times:

Could it be bursting tyres? It really hits the runway hard..

KL911



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User currently offlineSteve332 From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 15383 times:

I cant see the video for some reason but from whats being said about it I know iv seen it before (MD90 that loses its tail after a tail-strike). As far as I know..... yes it is real, it was a test.

User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 14995 times:

Quoting Steve332 (Reply 12):
I cant see the video for some reason but from whats being said about it I know iv seen it before (MD90 that loses its tail after a tail-strike). As far as I know..... yes it is real, it was a test.

No, it's not that one. I know that one's real. This one, I believe, has to be a fake.



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User currently offlineCPT523 From Singapore, joined Aug 2006, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14168 times:

Did anyone see the A380 tail strike video link next to this video? If not, take a look. Were they testing the A380's tail strike abilities or was this a complete foul up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5QlQpfOt5M&mode=related&search=

sorry for being slightly off topic.


Cheers


User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 13623 times:

If you want to see a hard landing...



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User currently offlineSteve332 From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 13446 times:

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 13):
No, it's not that one. I know that one's real. This one, I believe, has to be a fake.

Yeah just seen it now, Thats too big a bang for a bit of metal hitting the runway. Gotta be fake


User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 13408 times:

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 15):

Now that's some flex right there....


User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12375 times:

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 15):
If you want to see a hard landing...

Ahh its my first landing Big grin Bad Memories...


User currently offlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11553 times:

I agree the bang looks too big, but everything else seems to make sense. 1) That is definitely a real airliner 2) The tail does definitely hit the runway 3) After the strike, the nose seems to be held in the air, like the pilot might be contemplating going around or something due to any damage?

And to settle it, that's definitely an MD-90. The fuselage is far too long to be a 717, and it has a different shape.



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User currently offlineSuper98 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10070 times:

Quoting MidEx216 (Reply 19):

Yes and we further know that it is a -90 becasue of the shape of the TE flaps. 717 has no straight TE, and flap section would be shorter in span.

The only thing that would cause this would be sparks from the tailskid igniting some fuel that might have come out of the APU drain mast, which could be consistent with that amount of flash for an instant. I have to say that it looks like a farked video to me though - but still plausible with this kind of increasing sink rate observed. That bird needs to have the gear attach fittings and trunions checked out - spars all that stuff for cracks now.


How could he let his speed get so low to mush onto the runway like that? This is a classic example of why they teach us not to keep pulling the nose back past a certain point to arrest sink rate. In high wingloaded swept wing birds, all you do is create more drag that worsens the situation past a certain point based on airspeed, config, and weight. He would have been much better off just leaving the nose where it was a few seconds before touch down than to have jerked it up like he did. In fact, if your speed is right your can relax a little back pressure just as it touches to roll it on smoother too.

DAMN!

RM

[Edited 2007-06-15 21:44:09]

[Edited 2007-06-15 21:47:04]

User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9542 times:

I don't see why its fake at all. It's certainly not a model, and I really doubt somebody randomly decided to put fireworks on the runway for shits and giggles.

My theory is that the flash is just exagerated by the dim light and hazy conditions. Just look at the landing lights and the fat halo they make.

Anyways thats just me...


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9501 times:

Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 6):
And 2. you never will see such an explosion because of a tail strike. 3

Total BS The video has been edited. Aluminum would not throw off that color or that many sparks.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 9206 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 11):
Could it be bursting tyres? It really hits the runway hard..

If you pause the video between 0:22 and 0:23 you can clearly see the initial sparks originating from the right hand MLG.

The tail of the aircraft is clearly to the side of the sparking and can not be the initial source.

I think you are right. A blown tire on landing.


User currently offlineDetroitflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 9111 times:

Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 21):
I really doubt somebody randomly decided to put fireworks on the runway for shits and giggles.

 laughing   laughing   laughing 



Boiler Up!!!
25 Morvious : Must be it. As soon as the (for us) left landing gear strikes you see the flash. Maybe with a broker hydraulic line you could create a ball of fire t
26 Post contains images Bongo : What I really like is the music Anyone knows Who performs this music?
27 Post contains images Graphic : Actual tail strike or no, are you kids seriously getting all bent up out of shape over this? No wonder a.net has no credibility.
28 Post contains images MDorBust : Us? No... But I bet the plane did.
29 Post contains images Starlionblue : It is neither a fouloup or a test of tail strike abilities. The test is for minimum unstick speed. This is the lowest speed at which the aircraft wil
30 FLY2HMO : Unlikely, hydraulic fluid is not flammable, at least not Skydrol, IIRC.
31 VANGUARD737 : !) It's an MD-90 2) It's fake
32 Isitsafenow : Yes, that is a fact. We're all Rhode Scholars here compared to some of those.... safe
33 Hamster : What would it like to be a passenger on that plane? What would the sound of the strike be like? Anyone experience this?
34 Graphic : Its real. If you zoom in just before the impact you'll notice that the bottom of the airplane is level with or below the mains. The excessive spark sh
35 Post contains images Starlionblue : Lol. Very good point. And that kind of baloney detection should be applied in quite a few other threads discussing "faked" pics.
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