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United Resumes Full Ground-Handling At Raleigh  
User currently offlineRampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1530 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4215 times:

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United Resumes Full Ground-Handling at Raleigh as
Year-Round Mainline Service Returns, Works with the
IAM to Offer Recall to Furloughed Employees

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With the recent addition of mainline service between
Raleigh (RDU) and the Chicago, Denver and Dulles
hubs, United now offers year-round mainline service
to RDU. In addition to increased service for
customers traveling to the area, this change also
means United will resume ground-handling operations
at the airport. United has worked closely with the
IAM to resume mainline service at RDU, and we look
forward to continuing the partnership throughout the
transition.



* In early September we will resume ground-handling
from Air Wisconsin and will offer recall to eligible
furloughed employees.



* Throughout the summer, United will conduct the
recall process to fill available ground-handling
positions at RDU. Once the recall is complete, Air
Wisconsin employees will be welcome to apply for
open positions.



* "We are excited to bring United employees back to
Raleigh," said Dave Schneider, managing director,
Airport Operations and Cargo. "We look forward to
once again providing year-round service to our
Raleigh customers -- on the ground and in the air."



* United and the IAM will work together throughout
the recall process. Employees with questions about
the recall or their eligibility should contact their
supervisor or IAM representative.



* In the past few years United's RDU customers have
been served predominantly by United Express. The
recent addition of mainline flights demonstrates how
UAX service can increase a market's demand for
mainline flights over time.

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User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4208 times:

This is seriously great news for UA. Hopefully it is a sign of times to come! I would love to see BNA, SYR, MEM, JAX and HPN return to being mainline stations! Perhaps this will pave the way for RDU to SFO/LAX service?!

-m



[Edited 2007-06-15 14:26:08]

User currently offlineFlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 898 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4088 times:

Well DEN service must be doing well. Welcome back UA.


DC-8, DC-9, DC-10, F28, 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, IL-62, L-1011, MD-82/83, YS-11, DHC-8, PA-28-161, ERJ 135/145, E-1
User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4085 times:

words cannot explain the excitement I am feeling right now...


Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4059 times:

So we will be keeping DEN, IAD, and ORD as mainline? Shut the hell up!

OMG.. this is such the predeterminer that SFO is gonna be announced within the year...

Shut up this is GREAT! Does this mean perhaps a 2nd DEN flight? Perhaps TED will enter?

OMG.. I'm so happy.. yeah me!



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4035 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4):
So we will be keeping DEN, IAD, and ORD as mainline? Shut the hell up!

We haven't announced the fall schedule yet (to my knowledge) but I'd expect the frequencies to remain similar (maybe 1x additional DEN) but prob more mainline to ORD.



Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
User currently offlineBlueheronNC From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4012 times:

This is excellent news, so great in fact that it finally compelled me to join. Switching to year-round mainline operations made a lot of sense considering the resounding success of the RDU-DEN operations.

I think this switchover is key for RDU-SFO service. No other airline is better positioned (with an actual hub in SFO) to feasibly introduce such service. The only other airline that made sense to me was Southwest from OAK (since they already have crosscountry flights to BNA and BWI).

WIthout this, we'd have to probably wait for Virgin America service many years down the line, placing our hopes on the chances of a new airline.


User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3996 times:

Quoting BlueheronNC (Reply 6):
This is excellent news, so great in fact that it finally compelled me to join. Switching to year-round mainline operations made a lot of sense considering the resounding success of the RDU-DEN operations.

Welcome to airliners.net I too hope we see SFO down the road. Only issue is that it is such a long haul from RDU, it almost would need a 757 in the summer. I guess a 319 could do it without encountering restrictions 90+% of the time.



Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3968 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4):
Perhaps TED will enter?

I doubt RDU-DEN would see Ted, and quite frankly, in my mind, Ted is an inferior product to mainline United. On a route as long as RDU-DEN, there will be a demand for some First Class seats, just due to the distance involved; not to mention that many of those DEN customers will be transiting to cities on the West Coast, which there is always a demand for some F seats on trans-con flights. Also, the elites wouldn't be too happy with Ted on a business market; there isn't anywhere near as much leisure traffic at RDU as there is at LAS, PHX or the Florida markets.

Now the question is, does GSO go to an all-Express station? We're down to 1x 737 to ORD a day; everything else is UAX. I wouldn't be shocked if they announced shortly that GSO goes to an Express station, keeping the 737 during summer and at furniture market times.


User currently offlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 715 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

This is excellent news! I was surprised when UA pulled mainline out of RDU in the first place. It's a decent-sized metropolis with lots of corporate traffic. Glad to hear they've finally decided to bring mainline back...and year-round at that.

As for other current UAX stations going mainline, as much as I would love to see it, I doubt it will happen anytime soon. UA has gone on record that they are cutting back on domestic growth. The recently announced 7 new summer/fall routes were all express. With planes like the E70 and CRJ-700, there's not a "need" to go mainline, even if there's a "desire." I think it was a mistake for RDU to go all UAX and in this exception, UA is correcting itself.

P.S. Welcome to Airliners.net, BlueheronNC!



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User currently offlineBlueheronNC From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3908 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 8):
Now the question is, does GSO go to an all-Express station? We're down to 1x 737 to ORD a day; everything else is UAX. I wouldn't be shocked if they announced shortly that GSO goes to an Express station, keeping the 737 during summer and at furniture market times.

That 1x 737 to ORD seems more of a placeholder than anything else. I could very well see them switching to an Express station and running mainline during peak seasons (which at GSO do not last for more than 6 months at a time or add up to 6 months out of the year).


User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4):
Perhaps TED will enter?

I seriously doubt it. RDU is not really a leisure market (in comparison to the other Ted markets). Maybe Ted on the weekends, but I think you could say that about almost anywhere.

Hey ERJ170, I just saw this today...it looks like google maps has updated their overhead KH11 photo of RDU and surrounding areas... I'm trying to figure out when they took this photo...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...pn=0.017108,0.040169&t=k&z=15&om=1

Judging by the angle of the sun against the ATCT (just NE of the arrow) it's about 9-10am. I can see Glycol around the gates at both FX and the terminals so it must be during a cold (for Raleigh) part of winter. I'm thinking Winter of 05/06...

your thoughts?



Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3792 times:

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 11):

your thoughts?

Well, a couple of things to look at. The grass is brown. So I would agree with you as it must be winter because it is late fall before the grass turns brown in the Triangle.

Next, the GA apron is not complete. That would put it sometime before last summer .. I do notice that it has the initial layer of asphalt so that would put it sometime after summer 2005.

The taxiway is still incomplete and that was complete before spring..

The terminal had not started to go up, which happened Winter of 2006

So I would say sometime between October 2005 and December 2005...

so I would have to agree with you too..

[Edited 2007-06-15 20:27:21]


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineFdex727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3735 times:

All I can say is wow! Smartest move the braintrust at Chicago has made since getting rid of Goodwin and Dutta. A lot of GSO folks will be happy as we had at least 4-5 furloughed RDU folks here.

Although as I've said in previous post I do believe that GSO will be getting the axe soon. To be honest I was surprised when I came back from CLT and we were one of the 3 legacy carriers still with mainline service, always thought DL and US would be flying 737's forever here.

Not to forget about CLT their were 4-5 furloughed RDU folks there, some who commute back and forth each day as the GSO folks do.

[Edited 2007-06-15 21:24:06]

User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

Fantastico! How is United doing with gate space? I assume only one mainline aircraft is in at a time since they use the C-gates that are usually configured for RJ? Can they still maintain all this while still doing the ops for Air Canada and Charter Express (or has Charter flights now completely moved to the GA Terminal? although I don't think they can clear customs from the GA terminal so how can they leave there? hmmm)?


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineQueenofDaSkies From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 99 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

Mainline employees returning to a station is always great news. A few of my friends have worked this flight and have said it goes out pretty light (30-40 pax on a 737). Hopefully the loads pick up pretty soon so we can keep mainline service.


It's time to FLY!
User currently offlineTedEx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3444 times:

Maybe some of the ANC employees will move to RDU since ANC is losing year-round service and being farmed out to a contract handler.

User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Quoting QueenofDaSkies (Reply 15):
A few of my friends have worked this flight and have said it goes out pretty light (30-40 pax on a 737).

Which flight is that?



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineQueenofDaSkies From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 99 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 17):
Which flight is that?

ord-rdu-ord



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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

Ahhh.. hmmm.. that kinda... low..


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3372 times:

Damn i wish UAX would return to ILM. When I worked at that station our loads were really good.


Desmond MacRae in ILM
User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 7):
I guess a 319 could do it without encountering restrictions 90+% of the time.

I think a 319 could do it just about all the time, anytime. The 319s routinely fly SFO-IAD routes.



USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4576 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

Wow, I was trying to figure out how United was going to justify going back to express in the fall after having ramped up 5 mainlines. I have traveled them many times in the past few years, and when they stopped fying the 90 seater to Chicago, I new they were going to need Mainline there soon. Heck in 2003 the 90 seater was always overbooked.

I think United finally realized that RDU is a growing market, and not growing with it was a revenue mistake.

Welcome back Mainline.

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 11):
Judging by the angle of the sun against the ATCT (just NE of the arrow) it's about 9-10am. I can see Glycol around the gates at both FX and the terminals so it must be during a cold (for Raleigh) part of winter. I'm thinking Winter of 05/06...

Not sure about this, my neighborhood's construction and grocery store, idicate winter of 2004/05 probably around Feb March 05.

I have noticed some phasing in some of the pictures while moving around, but my neighborhood is one mile away.

Picture can't be too deep into 2006 either, as Independence is parked at A11. Still sticking to March 2005.



Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2225 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3271 times:
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Great news for the IAM members. I hope it's a sign of good things to come for other cities.


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User currently offlineEKSkycargo370 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3262 times:

Dying days for UA ramp handling at LHR.UA in a seriously sorry state!

25 ERJ170 : Looks like the schedule is going to stay status quo, at least according to OAG. Checking the Jan '08 schedule... Looks like DEN will remain 1x 735; OR
26 BlueheronNC : Speaking of which, how is the DL RDU-LAX flight doing? The success (or failure) of this flight could directly impact the perceived attractiveness of
27 ERJ170 : From what I understand, there is no worry of RDU losing this flight or it being downgraded...
28 CasInterest : It definately appears that Delta wants to drive and further it's Pacific Routes from LAX. It's actually not a bad move for them. I think the RDU rout
29 ERJ170 : Who knows.. but I see it this way... United launched RDU.. Frontier launched JAX, BDL, and BTR... United already serves JAX, BDL, and BTR from other
30 Post contains images UnitedTristar : UA has no service to BTR with their own aircraft (both UA and UAX) -m
31 RDUDDJI : Maybe the Tuesday moring 6am ORD-RDU flight...but the rest of them are full (90+%) changes for Jan '08 are at the very least a few months away. I wou
32 Apodino : Once again, United finds a way to screw Air Wisconsin, who is their best ground handler. (Their numbers are better than mainline consistently) Air Wis
33 RDUDDJI : What are you talking about? First of all, if United wants to serve RDU (more than seasonally) then they have to have UA employees there. United's IAM
34 Rdukid : Speaking of airline employees at RDU...I have a question about CUTE... Personally I do not see this as a good thing but maybe that is becasue I do not
35 ERJ170 : How are they doing with gate space? Are the Boeings taking up much more space than the RJ are? As far as I can tell, CUTE will not cause any airline l
36 RDUDDJI : It's more common in other countries, but it's gaining in popularity here. I can tell you from an airline IT side, it's a pain in the arse. We end up
37 Post contains images DeltaAVL : Very, very good news for UA and RDU. This can open many more possibilities for UA destinations at RDU. I'm going to guess SFO will come in the next co
38 ERJ170 : I would think that the 70-100 seat aircraft would be better for AVL. allow for more frequencies and longer ranges..
39 DeltaAVL : Yeah, like the E170 or 190. AVL couldn't fill a mainline flight to DEN.
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