Ejmmsu From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 819 times:
This is great news, bringing the CRC's up to the high standards of the Worldclubs and Presidents Clubs. With broad, unrestricted reciprocal lounge access, universal free alcohol, and universal free Wi-Fi, the skyteam trifecta of lounges is further separating itself from the paltry offerings of the US, UA, and AA lounges.
Ejmmsu From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 815 times:
Quoting Analog (Reply 1): Ouch! Why not? Selectively charging $10 (or whatever) for internet access seems like a silly way to annoy someone paying $1000s for a single flight.
I think CO and NW have been pressuring DL to include free wi-fi due to the broad, unrestricted reciprocal lounge access policy. Since Business Class passengers are not under the CO/NW/DL lounge membership umbrella, DL is free to treat them however they see fit. It is my estimation that DL did not want to offer free Wi-Fi to its members. I think it was changed as sort of a "requirement" for having reciprocal lounge access with NW and CO. This is purely conjecture on my part, of course.
DLPMMM From United States, joined Apr 2005, 2737 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 809 times:
DL used to give free CRC memberships to all their Platinum FFers (unlike CO and NW). This year DL ended the free access to Platinums, so now it is more important to make the benefits the same as their fellow Skyteam airlines. I think that in the long run, T-mobile will be tossed in favor of DL's own system (much like the CO PCs), but the interim step is necessary due to a long term contract with t-mobile.
Analog From United States, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 771 times:
Quoting Ejmmsu (Reply 3):
I think CO and NW have been pressuring DL to include free wi-fi due to the broad, unrestricted reciprocal lounge access policy. Since Business Class passengers are not under the CO/NW/DL lounge membership umbrella, DL is free to treat them however they see fit
Sure, but that does not explain why would DL want to screw over its best paying passengers? I'd certainly leave with a bitter taste in my mouth after being forced to pay $10 (in addition to my $4000 J ticket) for net access, while CRC/PC/WC members get it "free" with their <$500 per annum membership.
I can understand why DL added 'net access, just not why the added restriction on their best customers.
Davescj From United States, joined Jun 2007, 1755 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 769 times:
Quoting DLPMMM (Thread starter): This does not apply to Business Elite passengers in the CRCs or Biz-E lounges.
This seems petty to me, esp as CO and NW offer FREE WI FI for all. It would be interesting if DL employees simply start giving the card out, but I'm sure they aren't allowed to do that.
Oh well, at least it is a positive move on DLs part.
Davescj From United States, joined Jun 2007, 1755 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 621 times:
Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 7): Does this apply to Amex Platinum members as well?
The Platinum AMEX card holder is not a member of the club, AMEX pays your entry (in part via the annual fee). However, you are NOT a club member. This is evident as you can't get into a club for an airline you're not flying (saw an AMEX Plan. denied entry into DEN CRC because he was on NW).
Related to this, is the WIFI free if you are a Presidents or WC member?
Davescj From United States, joined Jun 2007, 1755 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 587 times:
Quoting Nuggetsyl (Reply 10): I think dal should rename themselves continental. All they do is follow cal.
I just with CO would take DL over...... Great FA's and flight crews, good gate folk on both airlines as a rule, complimentary networks, complimentary fleet structure, complimentary clubs, etc etc etc
DeltAirlines From United States, joined May 1999, 7285 posts, RR: 16 Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 579 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 9): AA has had free wifi at just about all of its lounges for several years.
Pretty sure, based on my experiences with Admiral's Clubs, they have the T-Mobile option as well.
Great move for Delta though. BOS has been doing this for a while now (since March or so), great to see the rest of the system follow through. Makes my membership worth a lot more now; free booze, free internet, comfortable places to wait, and locations at nearly every airport I go to (the only two airports I go to regularly without a Crown Room are MHT, which has an airport-run lounge that I can use with free softdrinks, etc., and they have free wi-fi in the entire terminal; and GSO, which Wake Forest has negotiated some sort of contract with the airport to let those with Wake Forest-issued computers free access to the airport wireless network, so now I can get online nearly everywhere I travel in the country).
DeltaFFinDFW From United States, joined Sep 2003, 1244 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 543 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 9): AA has had free wifi at just about all of its lounges for several years.
Actually that is NOT true. I am an Admirals Clubg member and I know AA does not offer free wi-fi in it's domestic lounges. See below - T-Mobile is offered.
Ikramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 18390 posts, RR: 59 Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 533 times:
Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 4): I think that in the long run, T-mobile will be tossed in favor of DL's own system (much like the CO PCs), but the interim step is necessary due to a long term contract with t-mobile.
Considering how low cost it is to provide access, it's just currently due to the T-Mobile contract, and DL is likely paying T-Mobile each time it does this.
Talk about a greedy decision coming back to bite you in the ass.
Quoting Davescj (Reply 8): The Platinum AMEX card holder is not a member of the club, AMEX pays your entry (in part via the annual fee). However, you are NOT a club member. This is evident as you can't get into a club for an airline you're not flying (saw an AMEX Plan. denied entry into DEN CRC because he was on NW).
Yes, but it is considered a "one use pass" and last time I checked, if you buy a one use pass/one day pass, you are a MEMBER for that day. It is not a courtesy entry like it is for Business Class pax.
You are paying (through Amex paying, which you pay for with the large annual fee), and should receive the benefits of membership for the time you are there.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
DLPMMM From United States, joined Apr 2005, 2737 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 475 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 15): Considering how low cost it is to provide access, it's just currently due to the T-Mobile contract, and DL is likely paying T-Mobile each time it does this.
Talk about a greedy decision coming back to bite you in the ass.
GlobalATL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 418 times:
Call me stupid. Call me a dumb gate agent. Call me whatever. FLAME ME for all I care.
BUT....the company you work for is paying the airfare and rarely its not you. So, get over the $10.00 fee. Cheap a$$es.
I know, I know....you think that I've missed the point.
B4REAL From United States, joined Aug 2003, 2439 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 373 times:
Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 7): Does this apply to Amex Platinum members as well? They're covered under the same NW/CO lounge agreement...
Like Davescj said, the Platinum AMEX card holders are allowed access to the DL/NW/CO clubs, but are not members. Like said earlier, this is surely a temporary solution - DL will surely yank the T-Mobile service and provide their own totally free service for all people in the club. The T-Mobile day pass hand out is really a pain in the butt for the CRC staff, so DL will surely realize this and soon be on par with the CO and NW clubs. But, the infrastructure is in place for all clubs and this will provide the service immediately. Lastly, DL doesn't want to make any decision that will complicate the labor/staffing responsibilities for the CRC (or any airport) operation, they are all about streamlining and simplification right now, so what I am trying to say is that all signs point to thi sbeing a stopgap.
The T-Mobile service was a great idea a while ago, but now, technologically, it is inferior. Especially that some airports may have airport free wireless - and there is this revenue T-mobile service available.
I would actually like the whole topic to go the way of airport available freely wireless at all airports, then the clubs don't have to do anything. This is a possiblity domestically, but a reach internationally for the forseeable future.
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