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Airbus A380 - Emirates Orders 8 More Frames.  
User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8874 times:

Emirates Airline agrees to buy eight additional Airbus A380s
18 June 2007


http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre..._items/07_06_18_emirates_a380.html

Dubai based Emirates Airline has signed an agreement to buy eight additional A380 aircraft, taking their total order for the aircraft to 55. The letter of Intent was signed at the 47th International Paris Air show at le Bourget between Sheikh Ahmed Bin Saeed Al Maktoum, Chairman, Emirates Group and Louis Gallois, Airbus President and CEO.

Emirates was a launch customer for the A380 and already had the largest number of aircraft on order. The A380 fleet will start deliveries in the third quarter of 2008.

“Today, we’ve signalled our intent to buy eight more A380 aircraft, taking our total order to 55. This should leave no one in any doubt about our commitment to Airbus’ very large aircraft. The A380 will offer our customers the latest standards in comfort and Emirates Airline new standards of operational efficiency.” said Sheikh Ahmed Bin Saeed Al Maktoum, Chairman, Emirates Group.


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User currently offlineGlidepath73 From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 1020 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8811 times:

Really good news! This shows the confident EK has now on the Empress...  Wink

Regards,
Patrick



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8784 times:

 eyepopping  . . .

amazing what could be the reason behind this.. growth ?

blocking slots for competitors & trade them in after 2015?


User currently offlinePhilzh From Switzerland, joined May 2007, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8784 times:

Nice.

Congrats to Airbus and EK. I hope their strategy will work out -- not that I really doubt it, but still: being from a very conservative country, I find it somewhat difficult to believe in what appears to be the Dubai way... «Build it and they will come».

Now of course we have to wait for people to say that this order is in some way bad for Airbus.


User currently offlineWolbo From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 487 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8661 times:

Excellent news for Airbus even if it's not a firm order but 'only' a LoI. It's a clear declaration of faith in the A380 from it's biggest customer.

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8641 times:

I´m confused!

What route are EK to fly all these 55 A388??

Btw, are EKs 777s leased or bought?

Micke//  Confused



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User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8641 times:

I am surprised that EK orders 4 A380s here, 8 A380s there, and nothing concerning the 747-8I.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26949 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8539 times:

Congratulations to Airbus and EK . Im very happy to see confidence come back to the A380 .

[Edited 2007-06-18 12:50:47]

User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8539 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 5):
Btw, are EKs 777s leased or bought?

Both.


User currently offlineBringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8383 times:

Now lets wait till wednesday till they order some more  Smile

User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8342 times:

Quoting Bringiton (Reply 9):
Now lets wait till wednesday till they order some more Smile


 rotfl 

I can already see it: "Wednesday, June 20th. Emirates airlines of Dubai, has ordered another 12 Airbus A380. The additional planes are needed for aggressive expansion planed over the next years, a spokesman said."


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8276 times:

Obviously Emirates has the cash & maybe they decided early A380 slots are a good investment in all kinds of negotiations they will have on all kind of subjects with Airbus, authorities and other airlines / alliances they will have in the next 10 yrs?

User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3746 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7894 times:

It's amazing how airlines are buying aircrafts by the hundreds these days. I think It's great for them and for the manufacturers but I can't help but wonder who the hell is going to fly all those aircrafts?!

Pilot shortage is becoming more of a problem everyday, especially in Asia / Middle East...



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30908 posts, RR: 87
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7874 times:
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Any idea when deliveries are scheduled for these new birds?

User currently offlineCygnusChicago From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7851 times:

Wow! Congrats to Airbus. This is one massive fleet these guys will have. Perhaps Airbus should have given them the A389, after all  Wink

Quoting Glidepath73 (Reply 1):
Really good news! This shows the confident EK has now on the Empress...

Hopefully this will put all the "A388 not meeting performance guarantees" threads to rest.



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User currently offlineAirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7827 times:

Quoting CygnusChicago (Reply 14):

Hopefully this will put all the "A388 not meeting performance guarantees" threads to rest.

Of course it won't. On the other hand, the A380 being in production and in service for a period of time without complaints will.


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3099 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7678 times:

Quoting Francoflier (Reply 12):
Pilot shortage is becoming more of a problem everyday, especially in Asia / Middle East...

That's hardly a reason for not buying planes that are scheduled for delivery 3-4 years down the line.....pilots can be trained and prepared for that sort of time frame......


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7487 times:

Since EK said that they would not allow A380 compensation to influence A350 order, whether or not they decide on it, could these A380s be negotiated to settle the compensation?

I'm still nervous for Airbus and EK with these huge orders. 55 A380s is larger than anybody's current 747 fleet at the moment. That's a lot of capacity, a lot of traffic to create.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 10):
I can already see it: "Wednesday, June 20th. Emirates airlines of Dubai, has ordered another 12 Airbus A380. The additional planes are needed for aggressive expansion planed over the next years, a spokesman said."

Correction: for aggressive expansion planned over the next week...  Wink



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12499 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7469 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17):
55 A380s is larger than anybody's current 747 fleet at the moment.

BA operates 57 744s.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30908 posts, RR: 87
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7454 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17):
Since EK said that they would not allow A380 compensation to influence A350 order, whether or not they decide on it, could these A380s be negotiated to settle the compensation?

Perhaps. Or they just plan a full-court press on the rest of the world's airlines and not depend on alliances, instead just serving the world directly.


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6562 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7437 times:

Where the hell are they going to fly all of those 380's to? Will they have year-round demand to consistently fill these aircraft? 55 seems like an awful lot.

User currently offlineDank From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 894 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7404 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17):
Since EK said that they would not allow A380 compensation to influence A350 order, whether or not they decide on it, could these A380s be negotiated to settle the compensation?

They claimed at the time that they placed the earlier (was it 4-frames?) 380 order this year that orders weren't tied to compensation (for the 380s as well as potential 350 orders).

cheers.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7392 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17):
Since EK said that they would not allow A380 compensation to influence A350 order, whether or not they decide on it, could these A380s be negotiated to settle the compensation?

Possibly. I believe Emirates owes Airbus some form of compensation for cancelling their A346 order, not?  angel 



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7385 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 18):
BA operates 57 744s.

Ah, I thought it was 52.

So a much smaller carrier, EK, is going to take 55 A380s, with nearly 50% more capacity than BA's 744 fleet (as configured), and base them at a much less desirable airport in terms of world traffic, without being in an alliance.

Good luck with that.



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User currently offlineRedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4318 posts, RR: 28
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7356 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 11):
Obviously Emirates has the cash & maybe they decided early A380 slots are a good investment in all kinds of negotiations they will have on all kind of subjects with Airbus, authorities and other airlines / alliances they will have in the next 10 yrs?

Best explanation I've seen for the eye-bugging number of A380's they've ordered.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17):
55 A380s is larger than anybody's current 747 fleet at the moment.

I think this latest order puts them within a hair of holding a full 1/3 of all A380 orders.



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25 Post contains images Scbriml : Indeed. A smart person might wonder why, despite two recent A380 top-up orders, those A346s still show on Airbus' books. I believe we will find out w
26 Ikramerica : Well, we don't know that they are there anymore, do we? Airbus doesn't update that sheet very often. Maybe the A380s "square the books" for all the A
27 Moo : Airbus update them every month, and this A346 cancellation story has been ongoing for much longer than the 15 days since they last updated the spread
28 Bimmerkid19 : Why are you wishing them bad riddance? If they can do it, they can do it. I believe when EK was in its infancy. everybody was screaming about how tha
29 Scbriml : They were still there 2 weeks ago when May's update was released. It was made clear by EK that their recent order for 4 A380s had nothing to do with
30 Stitch : I'm not picking on you, specifically, since I have seen many folks bring up a similar argument. Yet I don't see folks saying the same about Australia
31 Ikramerica : I'm not. But why must I be "good luck" all the time when I think something is foolish. EK is not my best friend, and even then, if you thought he/she
32 Ikramerica : Two other things to consider: 1. The 777s come to the gulf before the A350s. If there is a slowdown, it's not Boeing who is at the most risk of deferr
33 Post contains images Stitch : Well, so far, betting against EK hasn't been a very profitable enterprise. They continue to lower their CASM as they add new 77Ws and will do so even
34 Scbriml : I do understand what you're saying, maybe I just disagree with how big a risk it is. Not forgetting EK also has 20-odd 748s on order. Even with today
35 AndesSMF : Throughout financial and company history there has been plenty of examples of companies that seemed to be 'different' than others. Companies that wer
36 Thorben : JL and its subsidies operate even more (including cargo planes.)
37 Stitch : Fair enough. Their annual growth is somewhere in the 20%-plus range, so I don't see them having a problem filling new planes...
38 AndesSMF : Yes, but that won't last forever. Current performance does not guarantee future performance.
39 Stitch : Maybe it will increase once Airbus gets all those A388s and are not as growth-constrained as they are now without them...
40 AndesSMF : They already have competition in the form of the QR A350 order.
41 Post contains images Stitch : Yes, QR needs to "grow or die" in the face of the EK juggernaut so I am not surprised they have committed finally to the A350 as well as added to the
42 AndesSMF : And that does not include the fact that EK and QR already face competition from other airlines as well. If there is profit to be made in their routes
43 Post contains images Stitch : That is quite true. Even getting a week off in the US often takes an act of Congress. The Monday I get back from a week at the San Diego Comic Con, I
44 David_itl : Please look at the secondary European markets and see how the "main" airlines ignore those markets letting EK/QR/EY in and taking loads of passengers
45 AndesSMF : I understand your whole concept and have no disagreements with most. However, my whole point is an issue of quantity. At a certain level, adding addi
46 Cedarjet : Where? To pretty much every station in the network. All over Europe, all over India and Pakistan, Australia, you name it. With their good reputation
47 400drvr : To all the EK detractors - you are witnessing a seismic shift in how the world travels (no - I do not work for them). What EK are doing is akin to the
48 EKSkycargo370 : 5 X A380's into LHR,see the airport go into complete meltdown!
49 A360 : Yeah, right! It can take tons of 747's (plus tons of 777's, etc...) everyday, but it won't be abble to take 5 A380 without going into "complete meltdo
50 Agill : Funny how a lot of people seem to think that each A380 will hold at least 10000 people and one planeload of passengers will wear down the terminal flo
51 Post contains images Stitch : Well LHR will eventually reach "Soylent Green / Mark of Gideon" levels of congestion, but I imagine an A388 or two won't be what tips it over the edg
52 Post contains images Cun757 : Well they have the planes... now they need the passengers.... Where they going to found them...????
53 Post contains images Stitch : The Middle East. The Indian subcontinent. Australia. Southeast Asia. Africa. North America. South America. Europe. Heck, probably McMurdo and Vostok.
54 Post contains images Cun757 : Yes... What about the other airlines...???? Any way good for them
55 Post contains links AndesSMF : Huh? What EK is trying to do is nothing new. Has been done and attempted (in various forms of success) for many years. The only difference is that EK
56 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ...accordingly, for EK....half of the B787/A350 will replace their current fleet and the other 1/2 would be for expansion past 2014 to 2020..........
57 CupraIbiza : It strikes me that so many posters out there cannot fathom what EK will do with all these new aircraft. However, it also appears to me that those that
58 Post contains images Bimmerkid19 : yes, but getting there is half the fun. Especially if its with EK and if your paying less that other International Long-Haul Carriers, but are still
59 Bill142 : That should probably read QF Group. The first 15 of the current order are bound for Jetstar with additional orders likley to go the same way if JQ co
60 AndesSMF : Again, my only question about EK has been about the prospective size of their growth, nothing more, nothing less. Walmart hit it in 2000 (see story a
61 Zeke : A point not seen in this thread, Tim Clark said in his press conference with their order that the A380 gives a 18% lower seat mile cost advantage over
62 Post contains images Stitch : I should hope so, since it will have 200+ extra seats. Configure an EK A388 with the 358-seat 77W three-class seating and let me know how those numbe
63 Parapente : I think Stitch is right. They are changing the game. I do not believe that Airbus would have factored the US into their A380 calculations at all seein
64 Zeke : Tim actually said 18-22%, so one would assume the 18% refers to the 490 pax config, and the 22 refers to the 644, and the 514 seat config somewhere b
65 GDB : We were all wrong were we not? Both fans and detractors of the A380. We were looking at it as mostly the 747 replacement when it came to sales. An obv
66 Post contains images Stitch : A very good point, sir. A very good point indeed.
67 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ...but given your previous statements on other threads, its easy to see what what your connotations are... ......again, it took until 2000...even in
68 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : Very shrewd observation. I wonder how many people would be questioning their long-term future if they had 50-odd 748I's on order? Anyway - I've done
69 XT6Wagon : You are wrong on this, Airbus very much expected sales to the US, Japan and other places that so far have little chance at best of ever seeing a A380
70 CHRISBA777ER : Source?
71 XT6Wagon : find the Airbus market reports for the last few years.
72 Post contains images Stitch : Probably about the same, just from the other side of the fence. The head of Airbus strategy said so in 2000, as I recall. I have posted the original
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