HECA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2007, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4995 times:
Quoting Pilot21 (Thread starter): If the take-over were to go ahead, VLM would be integrated into KLMs Cityhopper or AF's Regional Units to create Europe's biggest Regional airline according to the paper.
How big would KLM Cityhopper or AF Regional become with VLM? And do they really become the biggest regional airline in Europe then? Bigger than e.g. LH Regional?
KL, LH, LX, BA, AF, TK, UX, TP, AZ, HV, SK, IB, WX, UA, AA, US, DL, AC, LA, MS, 4D, ZA, RJ, CX, JL, SQ, MH, FY, MU, CA,
The actual talks are denied, but no one denies that VLM was approached by AF-KLM.
It also states that VLM itself is also looking at possible partners/mergers
Anyhow, I hope the VLM brand stays, it a great company
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4731 times:
This would give KLM/AF complete monopoly on LCY - Holland routes.
I'm not sure that would be a good thing, especially as I dont see BA stepping in to fill this, nor will bmi or any other UK regional, maybe flyBE ? but they've not got the best reputations' so far.
VLM's F50s are always in excellant top condition, KLM's are magneticially opposite.. when the door is opened.. it falls out.
However the thought of finally earning some airmiles (that are worth having) from LCY to MAN has it's appeals.
Quoting Swiftski (Reply 1): That widens up a connections market LCY-AMS, LCY-CDG, etc, as well as LPL and Isle of Man, Jersey, MAN, esp for long haul.
HOw does driving to car from liverpool to MAN to fly to LCY and onwards to CDG open a connections market ?
Personally I think VLM has the right model...
it's everywhere to LCY. Although they offer connectoins, I doubt anyone uses them for a connecting flight. LCY is all about somewhere to city traffic. LCY will never make a connecting airport, but thats the reason for it's success... LHR's future is solely connecting traffic or long haul.
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 13166 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4650 times:
Would it necessarily mean that the VLM name would die? Remember, Cityhopper and AF feeder companies like Brit Air and Regional (even Cityjet, while we're at it) still operate under their own name, albeit in AF colours?
VG has been looking to expand - there was talk about Embraer 170s (no doubt with LCY in mind), so that might be a motivation; a joint order from Cityhopper/CVLM and one or two AF partner airlines might provide some very good deals on Embraers (or indeed, another commuter type).
As a Jersey resident, I think it's a positive step if it allows VG to feed into AF/KL's networks at AMS. I see that there will be a monopoly for VG/KL on AMS-LCY, but surely that is surmountable.
It'll be very interesting to see how this pans out.