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Two DL 763s Tookoff At MSP For Charters  
User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2706 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

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Two DL 763s tookoff at MSP to Rome, Italy for charters. State Farm Insurance awarded two employees with a vacation. The flights are expected to return next Monday.


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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1947 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

probably explains why our insurance rates are sky high......

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4956 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3289 times:
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Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
Two DL 763s tookoff at MSP to Rome, Italy for charters

Which explains why both JFK-FCO (DL148, DL160) flights did not operate yesterday...


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 1):
probably explains why our insurance rates are sky high......

State Farm surely didn't give each employee their own 767.  Silly

There were also USAirways charter flight #'s going MSP-PIT yesterday, an A319, I assume repositioning from a charter they had already done. What was that all about?


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1542 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3162 times:

I actually know the captain on one of the flights. He lives in the Quad Cities and flew out of MLI yesterday going to MSP. He said from there he was going to FCO, so I bet that's one of his flights. Although I could have sworn he said something about the Minnesota Vikings, but I may have misheard him.

User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
State Farm Insurance awarded two employees with a vacation.

They awarded their TOP employees, not just two of them, with a vacation. Read the article you referenced.



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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3050 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):
They awarded their TOP employees, not just two of them, with a vacation. Read the article you referenced.

I was about to point this out myself. If state farm gave 2 familes vacations with their own private 767 that'd be a whole other story. Big grin


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5291 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

Did WORLD AIRWAYS lose this business back to Delta? I thought that in the last two years, where they did this charter program, they impressed State Farm with their service and flexibility. What happened?

User currently offlineCmtehori From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2846 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3):
State Farm surely didn't give each employee their own 767

Hi Tornado! You're right. It was a full flight, with 209 pax o/b. One of the flights I was able to trace as DL9838, operated by ship # 1606. The 2nd one I just couldn't find!
By the way this is my first post here, I'm lovin it!  Smile

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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1947 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2792 times:

I did pick up the typo (two employees vs. to employees on the topic starter) but it still does not change my mind about insurance rates...What was the expense of that trip with meals and lodging thrown in??? Anyone care to guess??? approx. 400 plus people! Once again, now I know why insurance rates are so sky high!!!

User currently offlineCmtehori From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2756 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 9):
Anyone care to guess???

I'd say about US$ 65,000.00 per leg, to break even, therefore DL should have charged a couple thousand dollars more than that!
But that's just my 2 cents, could be more or less than this! Besides, I don't know if they carried any cargo on these flights.
On a side note, when you pull out the flt on the computer, you'll see that it shows 209 Y seats, however this jet is configured 35J/174Y (plus 1J for pilot rest and 4Y for F/A rest). Makes me wonder who took the B/E seats! First come, first take it? Or "let the bosses seat on the front"  Smile



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User currently offlinePilotfox From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

Anyone know the flight numbers, I couldn't find the flights on flightaware.

User currently offlineCmtehori From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

Quoting Pilotfox (Reply 11):
Anyone know the flight numbers, I couldn't find the flights on flightaware.

The were both yesterday, June 18th. Here they come:

FLT ORIG DEP OUT OFF DEST SKIN ETA IN
DL 9834 MSP 1720 1736 1802 FCO 0955 1032 1024

It had 205 pax o/b and the ship is 181

DL 9838 MSP 1835 1844 1908 FCO 1110 1134 1135
It had 209 pax o/b (packed!!) and the ship is 1606

Both have been sitting on the ground in FCO since early in the morning today, that[s probably why you can't find them on flightaware!

Best,
Carlos

[Edited 2007-06-20 02:34:04]


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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1401 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
Two DL 763s tookoff at MSP to Rome, Italy for charters. State Farm Insurance awarded two employees with a vacation. The flights are expected to return next Monday.

Vacation? Meh, this seems like more of a field trip for insurance adjusters to me with the traffic and driving habits of the Romans! Big grin

Next thing we'll hear is that Cargill will charter a few jets for "winners" of a getaway trip to Des Moines.  Wink

-Mike



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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 7):
Did WORLD AIRWAYS lose this business back to Delta? I thought that in the last two years, where they did this charter program, they impressed State Farm with their service and flexibility. What happened?

World couldn't get the slots needed to operate the charters. They will however operate one from Baltimore next Monday 6-25.



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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5291 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

Quoting FI642 (Reply 14):
World couldn't get the slots needed to operate the charters.

Thanks for the prompt info! Is that because of restrictions at Rome? Or is it because they are too busy doing military work? I just wasn't clear about what "slots" were involved. TIA. Thanks again.


User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2617 times:

Rome restrictions. Landing times had to be built around the departure of the cruise ship the passengers are getting on. World was unable to secure acceptable times for multiple operations. Delta was able to make adjustments to their schedule to make it work.


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User currently offlineMSPGUY From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 1):
probably explains why our insurance rates are sky high......

Actually my rates are cheap as dirt with them, speeding tickets, a few fender benders and all. Others in the Twin Cities here can not compare.



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