TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3999 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2983 times:
Another phrase you will see is ACMI.
This stands for Aircraft Crew Maintenance Insurance (but not fuel)
It is commonly used when airlines lease an aircraft to operate a single, or short series, of flights, usually because their aircraft is unserviceable.
When I was in the charter business, there was so much ACMI work in Europe in the summer that we tried to keep one of our Tristars ready to go, and it flew away at an hours notice every couple of days. Good money!
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7461 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2767 times:
An example of a current wet lease is 738 G-OXLA on wet lease from XL Airways to GB Airways following the return of a GBAirways 320 (G-TTOA now with TAM) to its lessor.
The leased aircraft looks as if it is in a version of full BA colours. But if you look carefully you will see this is not the case. The dark blue underside comes further up the fuselage than it does on BA aircraft. And that same dark blue area turns up at the base of the rear cabin door towards the tail cone (which it does not in BA livery). Because the dark blue area covers more of the fuselage than ut does on an aircraft in BA colours, there is insufficient room for the titles to be painted in their normal position. So instead of being on the lower forward fuselage they are on the upper fuselage. Note also the remnants of a gold cheat line on the lower forward fuselage. So this aircraft is not in a BA colour scheme but in the basic colours of its former operator, Miami Air International with a (crude) BA Union Flag tail and the BA titles and "Speedmarque" also added:
This is by no means the first wet leased aircraft to be operated on BA flights in a hybrid colour scheme. In 1988 when the BAe ATPs it had ordered were delivered late BA wet leased two BAe 146 aircraft - the first of this type to be flown with BA titles. And a year later a shortage of capacity in its LHR fleet resulted in the first 727 to fly with 'British Airways' titles:
Incidentally it is not possible and will still not be possible even after the introduction of Open Skies for a British aircraft to be operated on wet lease in the USA like the above American aircraft were operated in the UK. This is because it is forbidden by US law.
More recently BA wet leased from Air Atlanta a 737 that Air Atlanta had leased from LH. Note the light grey LH underside and the 'Operated by Air Atlanta' titles on the lower forward fuselage:
When BA itself is short of capacity today it usually wet leases an aircraft from Titan Airways. I believe the last time this occurred was when 752 G-ZAPU was wet leased last December. It was ferried from STN to LHR on 16 December and put into service as BA1306 to ABZ the following morning. Its last BA flight was a shuttle flight from GLA to LHR on 19 December. It was then ferried back to STN on 20 December as BA9250P. Asa can be seen in this photo there were no marks on the aircraft to even suggest it was flying for BA:
MACDADDY From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2650 times:
Any lease consists of 2 parts ACMI - Aircraft Crew Maintainence and Insurance.
The airline leasing in the aircraft pays an hourly rate for these 4 costs only. All other costs including Fuel, Overflight charges and handling are at the expense of the airline who is leasing in the aircraft.
A WET lease is an ACMI deal including Cockpit and Cabin crew
A DAMP lease is an ACMI deal including only the Cockpit crew
A DRY lease is an AMI deal only - NO crew are provided.
The only thing with the fuel is a reconcilliation that takes place, post flying, where the figure at the start and end of the flying is check to see if there is a surplus (in which case a credit back) or a shortage (in which case an invoiced cost) compared to the start figure.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5152 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2434 times:
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 5): It is commonly used when airlines lease an aircraft to operate a single, or short series, of flights, usually because their aircraft is unserviceable.
What you're talking about here is also commonly referred to as "subservice", which can be on an ACMI basis.
ACMI leases can also be long-term. For example, World operates MD11Fs for Air Canada, EVA and Lufthansa Cargo on an ACMI basis, under contracts that last for several years. All of these result in payments to World for the aircraft, the flight crew, aircraft maintenance, and insurance. The flights operate under the call sign of the leasing carrier, who fuels them, schedules them, pays landing and control fees, etc. Similarly, ABX Air provides 767-200Fs to ANA under similar leases.
I have doubts whether a Part 121 Carrier in the US can offer and/or receive a "damp" lease on a passenger jet. It would seem to me that at least the minimum number of f/as as required by the FARs or the Ops Spec of the leasing carrier would have to be aboard, as they are trained in that carrier's procedures. Beyond that, the carrier who is leasing the aircraft from the operating carrier could provide as many "helpers" as they want, I assume, to maintain service consistency. MaxJet, for example, is wet-leasing (ACMI) a 757 from Pace on a regular basis. It is staffed with Pace f/as, but MaxJet also has some of its folks aboard, I understand.
FWIW, the FARs define a "wet lease" as follows: "Wet lease means any leasing arrangement whereby a person agrees to provide an entire aircraft and at least one crewmember. A wet lease does not include a code-sharing arrangement. " (FAR 119.3) There are permissions that are necessary to obtain from the FAA when undertaking a wet lease, as prescribed in FAR 119.53. Part 119 applies to all operators of aircraft under Part 121, 125 and 135 (See FAR 119.1).