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DL's JFK-SAT Route?  
User currently offlineHVNandrew From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 442 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

I was looking through some old threads, and I came across this:

DL To Start JFK-AUS/SAT With E170s (by Panamair Aug 31 2005 in Civil Aviation)

I didn't even realize DL had service from JFK-SAT in 2005. It looks like it barely lasted six months, and the JFK-AUS route went from double daily to once daily. Does anyone know why the SAT route failed? It's surprising to me that the route failed, considering they were the only ones who flew the route.

Thanks.

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User currently offlineFlyingchoirboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 282 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3365 times:
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Quoting HVNandrew (Thread starter):
It's surprising to me that the route failed, considering they were the only ones who flew the route.

If they had a 'non-stop monopoly' on the route from JFK, I bet the fare was probably quite expensive and geared toward business travelers. When DL had service from LGA-ORD, the flight boarded at the Marine Air Terminal, which was convenient for business travelers (small terminal, free business lounge). They even changed the signs outside the terminal to indicate that the service to ORD departed from there.

Too bad the flight was changed to JFK.

Scott



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User currently offlineBelizexp From Belize, joined Dec 2005, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3086 times:

I think B6 also started service from JFK to SAT around that same time. That why it was axed.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3046 times:

Quoting HVNandrew (Thread starter):
It's surprising to me that the route failed, considering they were the only ones who flew the route.

CO flies nonstop EWR-SAT.



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User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5592 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

SAN-JFK also started and ended in mid '04-early '05 so apparently DL was doing quite a bit of "trial-and-ERROR" scheduling with their "new" JFK hub. And so, as Belizexp mentioned, was Jet Blue!

I think your answer is in there somewhere! But now that both have made some progress, who knows, maybe DL will take another run at SAT-JFK as they have with so many other former cities.

bb


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2896 times:

Are they still flying Austin

User currently offlineHVNandrew From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

Quoting Belizexp (Reply 2):
I think B6 also started service from JFK to SAT around that same time. That why it was axed.

B6 doesn't fly into SAT, and I don't think they ever have in the past.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):
CO flies nonstop EWR-SAT.

That's not JFK-SAT though.

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 5):
Are they still flying Austin

Yes, 1x daily with the E170.


User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2826 times:

I worked the flight to SAT at least once a week for its entire existence. The loads were always pitiful, never more than 20-30 in my experience. And 90% of the time I worked it, not one person sat in First Class. The big benefit to this flight, over the JFK-AUS leg, is that it did qualify for a meal service in First Class, where as AUS did not (based on mileage).

If anyone is interested, Shuttle America rotated two aircraft through JFK a day back then. The schedule worked as follows:

Day One
CMH-JFK
JFK-SAT
SAT-JFK
JFK-AUS (overnight)

Day Two
AUS-JFK
JFK-AUS
AUS-JFK
JFK-CMH



Prepare doors for departure and cross-check.
User currently offlineUpstateDave From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2713 times:

Note that DL now offers Marine Air Terminal Service to MDW (said to be more convenient to downtown) on a bi-hourly basis on the :55 to MDW and on the :05 back. Service is, or is to become solely flown on the EMB170


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