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Interesting Piece On Leahy And Dickenson  
User currently offlineDank From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 907 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ology/2003757668_webairshow21.html

Quote:
Some find the New York-born Leahy's public persona too brash to take, but one-on-one he's a charmer.

...

Leahy uses the air show as a deadline to concentrate the minds of prospective buyers.

"If you set it up the way we do it, you say, 'Gosh, guys, the delivery slots disappear at the end of the air show. We can't hold these positions,'" Leahy said.

...

Dickenson is also negotiating potential big deals with United, Korean Air Lines and British Airways, all of which have large fleets of older 747s and are serious candidates to buy the 747-8.

He thinks United and American may buy the short range version of the 787, the 787-3, for the U.S. domestic market.

There's a bunch about how they work the show. Not terribly deep, but a fun read.

cheers.

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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

""Our friendship is strong enough," he (Leahy) said, that even Hazy's newly expanded order for the 787 Dreamliner won't disturb it. "A 74-airplane mistake is not going to come between us."

...yah...a "mistake"...sure buddy, whatever.. sarcastic 



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineDank From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 907 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
...yah...a "mistake"...sure buddy, whatever..  

One of his more "entertaining" quotes. But I've heard that type of line from salesmen in my work many a time in similar situations where a competitors product had strong merits.


cheers.

edit to add "in similar situations"

[Edited 2007-06-22 06:57:30]

User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
""Our friendship is strong enough," he (Leahy) said, that even Hazy's newly expanded order for the 787 Dreamliner won't disturb it. "A 74-airplane mistake is not going to come between us."

...yah...a "mistake"...sure buddy, whatever..

I wouldn't pay to much attention to that quote. Chances are that Mr. Leahy was joking around saying that and used it as an example to express how strong the friendship is between Mr. Hazy and himself. But it will fit the agenda for some others...



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting Dank (Reply 2):

One of his more "entertaining" quotes. But I've heard that type of line from salesmen in my work many a time in similar situations where a competitors product had strong merits.



Quoting Manni (Reply 3):

I wouldn't pay to much attention to that quote. Chances are that Mr. Leahy was joking around saying that and used it as an example to express how strong the friendship is between Mr. Hazy and himself. But it will fit the agenda for some others...

..could very well be, but given all of his other previous comments..they just seem to keep on "stacking up"....he's made so many comments to the media (which by the way he stated he likes to be in), its difficult to see if he's "joking" or not...

...while I have nothing personal against him, its just one of many comments of his which reflects his crass character....he's got no class....

..and again, the majority of planes which he's sold are basically phenomenal planes such as the A330 and A32X which I could sell too.. biggrin 

..



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineDank From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 907 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4):
...while I have nothing personal against him, its just one of many comments of his which reflects his crass character....he's got no class....

..and again, the majority of planes which he's sold are basically phenomenal planes such as the A330 and A32X which I could sell too..  

The quote from the article suggests that if you actually spoke to him in private, you might have a different view. Some people like to play in the media and like to stir the pot. I think if he said, "the 787 is a piece of crap" that would be more in line with having no class. Saying (what I would assume was somewhat in jest because they didn't get a big sale) that IFLC made a mistake, doesn't seem classless to me. Probably not what I would say, but I did put entertaining in quotes for a reason (because it appeared to be a not funny joke).

cheers.


User currently offlineAminobwana From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Quoting Dank (Thread starter):
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ology/2003757668_webairshow21.html

Quote:
Some find the New York-born Leahy's public persona too brash to take, but one-on-one he's a charmer.
..
Leahy uses the air show as a deadline to concentrate the minds of prospective buyers.

"If you set it up the way we do it, you say, 'Gosh, guys, the delivery slots disappear at the end of the air show. We can't hold these positions,'" Leahy said.

For once, Leahy was candid, showing his hand:
So, if I am confronted with such an ultimatum as this, meaning:
"or you issue me immediately an order at a extremely low price, for a still widely not defined aircraft without engine options,, or you lose both this price and delivery slots"

I would say: OK, if you insist on it (because you need to show the order), I will do it if you give me diamond hard guarantees and far beyond usual penalties and allow me to walk (as Mr. Al Baker of QR stated) if you do not reaffirm timely the provisional specs and the other agreed conditions. Aside this restriction, the order is "firm"!

It seems that this happened, even if some of the orders are still in a advanced MOU stage, as the USAir one.

Pls. excuse the folksy text, as a follow up of Leahy's.

aminobwana


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