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New LY 772 4X - ECE Started Testing And Pics.  
User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5429 times:

I wrote this in the other 4x-ece post abou tthe first month schedule but thought it might be interesting to start new thread on it :

4x-ece started testing yeaterday ...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE566


You vcan see the a/c in Paine field 3 from left :
pic from MATT cawby in flickr :

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http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=549663742&size=l

Cant wait to see the actual aircraft or interior pics.
The new a/c will come with new F and J and Y class seats.
There will be 12 F class full flat beds and lie angles J class seats.
Y will have new ergomatic with foot stool.
The plane will come with mood lighting and a new AVOD touch screen system.
As we know, all the 744 and 777 will get the new F and J class seats but not the Y.
Hope LY will understand that they will need to upgrade the Y class cabins in the the older 744 and 777. Especially after learning (from EL AL 001) that the new 777 will not be certified to make the longer long haul flights to LAX.

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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5227 times:

Quoting Amirs (Thread starter):
Especially after learning (from EL AL 001) that the new 777 will not be certified to make the longer long haul flights to LAX.

this is really ridiculous!!
so the best planes won't be able to fly to the farthest destinations?!
I hope to fly one of them from CDG!



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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 1):
I hope to fly one of them from CDG!

Well, ece is suppose to be in CDG on August 19 and ECF is suppose to be in CDG on August 20.


User currently offlineMattcawby From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 199 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

Here is 566 landing at Paine Field after the first flight June 21.
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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5059 times:

Quoting Mattcawby (Reply 3):
Here is 566 landing at Paine Field after the first flight June 21.

WOW MATTCAWBY, you are awesome.
Thanks for that pic!!!


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

Too bad it will not be used for the LAX flights. Looks like the plane will never be again that far west in the USA as it is now in Everet Big grin

User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4946 times:

THe positive point is that if ECE and ECF are not able to go to LAX, they will have more time to visit CDG lol


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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...ename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


it seems that 787s will join LY fleet in 2011!!!



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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 7):
it seems that 787s will join LY fleet in 2011!!!

I will believe it when it becomes official, we already knew they plan on leasing a few 787 from 2011. Maybe the recent ILFC order also includes the LY aircrafts.

In the meantime:

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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

that doesn'tlook all to bad, nevertheless what I hate about the B777's and B747's is the stupid middle seat in C and I love that it is non existant in the A330 / A340's or one can configure their planes like SQ with their new C or Delta and Continental that only put in 2 seats in the middle. Regarding that newspaper article how can LY establish themselves as a serious airline when almost every aircraft is different. In 762's seats are like this in 2 772's you got AVOD in the rest + 744 also not. A key point to be a good airline is consistency in wahtever they do this goes from the product to the actual service.

User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

News:

The two new aircrafts will come with the panasonic EX2 system.
http://www.panasonic.aero/xseries.html


User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Looks great, can't wait to fly these planes!!


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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

Quoting Amirs (Reply 10):

The two new aircrafts will come with the panasonic EX2 system.

any news in the meanwhle if the 744's and rest of 772's will also receive that system'?


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6868 posts, RR: 63
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

Quoting Mattcawby (Reply 3):
Here is 566 landing at Paine Field

Nice photo (thanks!) but what does "566" mean? It can't be msn #566...  Confused


User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 13):
Nice photo (thanks!) but what does "566" mean? It can't be msn #566...

Boeing will be using BOE566 as the flight number for the testing.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6868 posts, RR: 63
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

Quoting Amirs (Reply 14):

Boeing will be using BOE566 as the flight number for the testing.

Aha! Thank you. Any idea what the line number is of 4X-ECE?


User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 6):
THe positive point is that if ECE and ECF are not able to go to LAX, they will have more time to visit CDG lol

Sounds like BS to me! Why would they not be able to go to LAX?

Range wise? no way

so what is it?

Leo



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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 16):

Sounds like BS to me! Why would they not be able to go to LAX?

Range wise? no way

so what is it?

Leo

It really is some bullshit I mean the plane was bought with the same specs as the other planes unless LY screwed up there and regarding MTOW it should be the same. This will only causes again complications for the route planning why can't LY do things right.


User currently offlineAFC_Ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

What happened with ELAL 001? Why aren't the 777s allowed to fly to LAX?


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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

Quoting AFC_Ajax00 (Reply 18):
What happened with ELAL 001? Why aren't the 777s allowed to fly to LAX?

I think it has something to do with the MTOW. Its the same a/c with same engines, but the certification is different. It can always be upgraded later.
Maybe one of the pilots or someone from the manufactures will know better here ...


User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4233 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 15):

Aha! Thank you. Any idea what the line number is of 4X-ECE?

line -648
serial -36083


User currently offlineTodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2804 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

Wonderful pic!! Thanks!!

When is the plane going to be fully painted?


It is indeed weird that LY's newest and most comfortable airplanes won't be able to fly the airline's longest routes... There is obviously something unlogical, but I'd like to know how it came to such a result.



I bitterly miss the livery that should never have been changed (repetition...)
User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4101 times:

maybe it is just a rumour that they won't be able to fly to LAX; let's wait and see...


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6868 posts, RR: 63
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

Quoting Amirs (Reply 20):
line -648
serial -36083

Thank you!  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 22):
maybe it is just a rumour that they won't be able to fly to LAX; let's wait and see...

Well, its not on he schedule for the next few months. No ECE or ECF to LAX.


25 Post contains images SandroZRH : Don't wanna break the mood here guys, but why do you need to start a new thread for every move this new LY 772 seems to do? Is there something so spec
26 Post contains images LXA340 : lol... This was something I was wondering about as well.[Edited 2007-06-28 11:00:55]
27 Post contains images LY777 : That's because we are waiting for this new a/c for a lot of time [Edited 2007-06-28 11:48:19]
28 LXA340 : Then again it's it's about their best configured AC which can't make the longest flights etc it's a bit embaracing to make up such a big fuss and agai
29 JFK787NYC : Why do they even have to put this plane on ultra long routes like LAX? I thought these two aircrafts are totally for the New York/New Jersey market wh
30 El Al 001 : Exactly. From what I know LY saved $2m for the lower MTOW certification. LAX gets the others 777s and when the time comes, the certification can be c
31 LXA340 : How many flights do they have to BKK?
32 Post contains images Amirs : Here is a pic of the seatmap for new 772 (ece and ecf). I got it from jonnye who posted it in "flyertalk.com". 12 pax First Class 35 pax Platinum/Busi
33 LXA340 : In case I saw it correct, they got 2 tilets in C now yeah this is enough. Most airlines have not more than 2 toilets in a config up too 48 seats ca.
34 Post contains images El Al 001 : I can confirm that this is the LY new 772 LOPA. Amirs, you didnt believe me sometime ago regarding 12 C/cl - but i forgive you No final decision at LY
35 Amirs : I am sorry, you are right, but I was told by two in el al that it was 8 - 10 seats. I was also hoping for 8 seats, that would have been nice. I have
36 LY777 : From September, LY will send a lot of 777s to CDG (3 to 4 times a week, against only once a week in the past month), including the new ones (ECE and E
37 LXA340 : Ok that makes sense then. Maybe that's why the increase to 12 F seats then although 8F and more C would've been maybe more worth it?
38 Amirs : The lowered the F class fares a bit to be able to sell more - more like full fare C class. Ask ELAL001 i am sure he knows more about the pricing and
39 LXA340 : Ok, Thanks
40 Post contains links and images Amirs : It looks like 4x- ECE is back at Paine field with new full color. This is the first LY a/c with the new logo. I also think there is something differen
41 LXA340 : It looks more shiny but this is just because it is fresh from the paintshop
42 LY777 : wow!!! It looks so great: just one question: why do they write on the a/c "Boeing 777-200" and not "Boeing 777-200ER"? (on their 767s, they precise ER
43 Amirs : Maybe because on 767 they have 762 non ER as well.
44 LXA340 : When will it have it's delivery flight?
45 Post contains links Amirs : I just started a new Master Thread for the two new 772. I will ask the moderator to close this thread. New LY 772ER Master Thread (4X-ECE And ECF) (by
46 PanAm_DC10 : Please refer to the thread that Amirs has linked in reply 45. Thank you
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