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Questions about SFO Security and DFW and SMF Airport  
User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3539 times:
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I ran a thread about this but its since been archived.

Some new questions:

If going from an AA flight to an AS flight at SFO, do I have to exit and re-enter security? And is 1 hour and 30 minutes enough time to make the connection?


When at SMF, I already asked regarding in-terminal spotting. I hear its not a great terminal by any means though. Are there any shops inside with aviation? Anything in the airport, such as a museum or lounge? If flying F class on AS or AA, are there lounges there?

I land in SMF at 845 AM on a Tuesday AM and have 3 hours there. Considering its the tail end of rush hour, anything worth seeing?


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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6140 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

Yes, you will exit security from concourse E (Terminal 3) and make a left turn outside security. Then walk through the old international terminal to Terminal 1.

Alaska's ticket counter is the 5th airline down right after F9 and NW.

We use gates 20/22/24 unless going to Mexico. We then use gate's in the International terminal, primary gates are A-2 and A-4

ASSFO



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
Are there any shops inside with aviation?

If you are on AA or AS you are in SMF Terminal B and there really aren't shops in that terminal. I believe it is just a little gift shop/newsstand outside of security, but it has been a few years since I've been in B it might have changed.

Terminal A has a little better collection of shops.
http://www.sacairports.org/int/terminal/terminal.html

Quoting Mirrodie (Thread starter):
I land in SMF at 845 AM on a Tuesday AM and have 3 hours there. Considering its the tail end of rush hour, anything worth seeing?

3 hours would make it tight to see some things, assuming 20-30 minutes each way to get ground transportation and then drive/ride to the sights.

If you had a couple more hours you could do things like visiting the Aerospace Museum of California at the old McClellan AFB
http://www.aerospacemuseumofcalifornia.org/
Old Sac and its museums;
http://www.oldsacramento.com/
or some of the other sites in downtown Sacramento.



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3475 times:

There's a Chili's Too outside security in Term. B at SMF, and you can get a view of the ramp from there. Not a great view, but a view nonetheless.

User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3356 times:
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Quoting AS739X (Reply 1):
you will exit security from concourse E (Terminal 3) and make a left turn outside security. Then walk through the old international terminal to Terminal 1.

Alaska's ticket counter is the 5th airline down right after F9 and NW.

THat stinks  Sad
Does 1:20 leave enough time for a connection from an AA flight to AS flight?

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 2):
3 hours would make it tight to see some things, assuming 20-30 minutes each way to get ground transportation and then drive/ride to the sights

Sorry, I meant specifically for in terminal spotting at SMF, from 0845-1145. For an east coaster, I look forward to anything.  Smile



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6140 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3341 times:

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 4):

Oh yeah. No problem/ What time is your arrival and dept. from SFO?

ASSFO



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3333 times:
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regarding SFO:

I arrive SFO at 1210 and trying to make a 1339 AS flight. No other way other than to exit and re-enter security, huh?



regarding SMF: what can one expect a Tuesday morning for 0830-1130 regarding in terminal spotting?

about DFW, is there any decent spotting from inside? I recall the upper level where the train is boarded as being decent. Are there decent views from inside AA's AAdmiral Club?

[Edited 2007-06-26 18:29:21]


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User currently offlineDevildog2222 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 6):
regarding SFO:

I arrive SFO at 1210 and trying to make a 1339 AS flight. No other way other than to exit and re-enter security, huh?

Yeah thats pleaty of time. It normally takes 7min or less to get from T3 to T1. The security line shouldn't be bad at the time of day, and the good thing is that when you go through the security line the Alaska gates are right there on your right.


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6140 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

Devil is correct. the bank of east coast flights on US,CO,AC,FL have all left by 1200-1230p. You will be just fine,

ASSFO



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3192 times:
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Looks like instead of the dreaded 3 hour layover in SMF, I may be able to change my flight to include a lengthy layover in DFW instead. Of course, I prefer this.

I am trying to swing the layover in DFW. It may be a 4.5 hour layover.

-is that enough time to grab a cab to CR smith museum and back?

-if not, are there any decent areas for spotting within DFW terminal? I have heard of nice views from the Airtrain.

-Also, regarding stores in DFW, are they any decent aviation type related stores? I could have sworn there was also an American Airlines store. I thought I read this somewhere but not sure if it is truth or rumor.

I appreciate the input.



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3143 times:
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Also, are there any heavies flying into DFW on a regular basis? (340s, MD11s and 747s)


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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 6):
regarding SMF: what can one expect a Tuesday morning for 0830-1130 regarding in terminal spotting?

Plenty of 737s, unfortunately. The HA 767 leave at about 9:00am.

The best spotting location is at the parking structure. You can walk to it.


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3110 times:
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Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 9):

I am trying to swing the layover in DFW. It may be a 4.5 hour layover.

-is that enough time to grab a cab to CR smith museum and back?

-if not, are there any decent areas for spotting within DFW terminal? I have heard of nice views from the Airtrain.

-Also, regarding stores in DFW, are they any decent aviation type related stores? I could have sworn there was also an American Airlines store. I thought I read this somewhere but not sure if it is truth or rumor.

I appreciate the input.

In addition to the above DFW questions, didnt AA recently finish a new terminal there?



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User currently offlineDeltaBoy777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 411 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 9):
I am trying to swing the layover in DFW. It may be a 4.5 hour layover.

-is that enough time to grab a cab to CR smith museum and back?

-if not, are there any decent areas for spotting within DFW terminal? I have heard of nice views from the Airtrain.

-Also, regarding stores in DFW, are they any decent aviation type related stores? I could have sworn there was also an American Airlines store. I thought I read this somewhere but not sure if it is truth or rumor.

Well, since no one from DFW is responding, I guess I will! You can definitely grab a cab to the C.R. Smith Museum. It is about 30 mins. from DFW in the middle of the day. The only thing about going there is you can't really see it all without having to rush to get back through security. They have a film, etc. that takes a little while.

As far as spotting goes, we do have some heavies. Korean flies a 747 Cargo flight out of Seoul, and I think it arrives around 11:00am. BA777 & AA777 are also frequent visitors. The best places to spot would definitely be the SkyLink train stations. On the upper level, you get the opportunity to look out on alot of different planes. Also, take the train over to the new Terminal D (International), they have some good vantage points for spotting. Hope this helps!



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3018 times:
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Quoting DeltaBoy777 (Reply 13):
You can definitely grab a cab to the C.R. Smith Museum. It is about 30 mins. from DFW in the middle of the day. The only thing about going there is you can't really see it all without having to rush to get back through security.

Thanks Delta Boy. Mapquest puts it at 5.18 miles away and it would take 7 minutes!

I'll stick to the airport.

Any truth to the rumor of an AA store somewhere inside?



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

Quoting DeltaBoy777 (Reply 13):

Well, since no one from DFW is responding, I guess I will! You can definitely grab a cab to the C.R. Smith Museum. It is about 30 mins. from DFW in the middle of the day

More like 15mins if that during the middle of the day. 30 mins in traffic.

Every time I've gone from DFW to the museum it has never been 30 mins



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User currently offlineLegion242 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

No aviation stores that I have ever seen at DFW. The Korean 747 usually departs around 2-2.30. The AA and BA heavies arrive from UK about 1.30 as does the LH 340 from Germany.


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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2908 times:
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Thanks for the arrivals info.

I'll be calling CR Smith museum tomorrow to inquire about any shuttles. Would be nice.

Thanks, got some great info here, all truly appreciated.

mirrodie



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