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Dallas To Announce New Major Intl Route On 27JUN07  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17020 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070625/lam113.html?.v=57

A major announcement on a new international service (Seems to be a heavyweight one since it use the word"major") is to be announced on Wednesday 27JUN07.

No hints, of course.

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User currently offlineSkyyMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16976 times:

Quite likely DFW-LHR by AA since it's been in the works and along with RDU, the only city AA does not already fly to from Heathrow. Can't imagine anything else, especially since the announcement is being made from London. Someone might say Virgin, but I really don't see that happening.

User currently offlineAkizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16929 times:

Virgin......... Anyone? I need DFW-MAD but thats wishfull thinking....  bigthumbsup 


DCA
User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16839 times:

Shouldn't that be Dallas/Forth Worth to announce ...

When you write Dallas I expect to hear about WN flying to China or something  Wink



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16831 times:

Being that the announcement will be made from the UK, I would assume that it will be the announcement of nonstop service between Dallas and Heathrow.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11386 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16778 times:

I could see it being AA to Heathrow, although calling that "new international service" when it would presumably just replace all or most of AA's existing DFW-Gatwick schedule is a bit disingenous. If, indeed, it is AA to Heathrow, it will be interesting to find out where they got the LHR slots from to make the service work -- will they cannibalize another route, or will they bite the bullet and buy the slots at LHR?

Beyond AA to Heathrow, I could also see it being new Aer Lingus flights to Dublin to feed into AA's hub, as the two still have a sizeable codesharing relationship and Aer Lingus could further build on Dublin's place as a low-fare access point to mainland Europe and the British Isles.

I could also see it being JAL resuming flying to DFW with perhaps 3-4x weekly 777s to NRT. While some might think I'm nuts, I've long expected that at some point in the future, JAL would be coming back because of their strong alliance with AA, and especially now with their entrance into oneworld.

Finally, while this is a bit more far-fetched, perhaps this could also be QANTAS' big moment to finally announce what everyone expects and knows is coming: a 747 flight directly into DFW, overflying LAX, and plugging Australia into the second largest hub in the U.S., with vastly larger access to the eastern U.S. than LAX could ever provide.

Who knows? Maybe it is going to be something completely unexpected that will throw all of us experts here on A.net off completely!

Should be interesting!


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5143 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16751 times:

The real shocker would be if it was Air India announcing it chose DFW over us down here in Houston to route India flights via LHR to DFW. My guess is its AA or BA going LHR-DFW.


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User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16701 times:

Watch this... they'll announce an AC flight between DFW-YYC/YVR or another Mexicana city.  

Pretty much, I think it comes down to one of five options:

1) Service to China on a Chinese carrier. AA would be less than happy.

2) Skyteam to Europe: AF restarting service to CDG, or KL to AMS. This one is doubtful, as European carriers tend not to launch new routes in the fall or winter to North America (which is most likely when this new route will be launched).

3) JL coming back to DFW. This has one been rumored since the building of Terminal D.

4) QF to DFW. Another heavily rumored flight. Who knows when those 772LRs are being delivered anyway?

5) Air India opting for DFW over IAH, via who the heck knows (probably LHR).

[Edited 2007-06-26 01:01:47]


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16619 times:

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 6):
to route India flights via LHR to DFW.

...why would they want to do that now, when AA/BA can actually counter them on equal footing?


User currently offlineFlyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16589 times:

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 7):
Watch this... they'll announce an AC flight between DFW-YYC/YVR or another Mexicana city

LOL, or better yet finally entering the YEG market again  Smile


User currently offlinePBIflyguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 248 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16564 times:

I'm with Commavia on this one, I think its going to be QF announcing DFW service

User currently offlineMastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16538 times:

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 7):
2) Skyteam to Europe: AF restarting service to CDG, or KL to AMS. This one is doubtful, as European carriers tend not to launch new routes in the fall or winter to North America (which is most likely when this new route will be launched).

I think AF announced they're restarting DFW a few weeks ago.


User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3588 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16538 times:

How about AA starting service DFW-MAN?

I don't have any inside info, but I would think it is a possibility given how vague the press release is.


User currently offlineTismfu From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16506 times:

Is there some sort of international airport conference going on in the UK on Wednesday? Because aside from that, why would DFW Airport announce a new international service in Britain that isn't routed in some manner through/from that country? That is to say, shouldn't we rule out new services to Asia/Australia?

User currently offlineDa man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16506 times:

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 7):
QF to DFW. Another heavily rumored flight. Who knows when those 772LRs are being delivered anyway?

Excuse me, but I don't believe QF has even ordered the 777-200LR.



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User currently offlineWDBRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16438 times:

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 3):
When you write Dallas I expect to hear about WN flying to China or something

Yeah...I thought the same thing....WN announcing Dallas to Mexico service.


User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16438 times:

Quoting Da man (Reply 14):

Oops, never really paid attention to whatever happened to the QF 772LR rumors.



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User currently offlineAkizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16424 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 5):
I could also see it being JAL resuming flying to DFW with perhaps 3-4x weekly 777s to NRT. While some might think I'm nuts, I've long expected that at some point in the future, JAL would be coming back because of their strong alliance with AA, and especially now with their entrance into oneworld.

I agree with you. Just a matter of time before we see JAL back in DFW.

But my instinct tells me it going to be Virgin. If it was AA why wouldn't they announce from DFW. My money is on Virgin LGW-DFW is preforming quite well for AA & BA and there is plenty of room for more competition. Not sure about BA but AA is oversold on almost a daily basis now. Seeing AF back in DFW would also be nice but i dont see that happening yet.



DCA
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11386 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16347 times:

Quoting MastaHanky (Reply 11):
I think AF announced they're restarting DFW a few weeks ago.

Nope. I doubt you'll see AF restarting DFW anytime soon. The market is developing, but there is still not enough O&D coming out of DFW support the flight, and O&D is now all the flight will have to depend on, along with connections over CDG, as Delta has pulled their DFW hub and a huge amount of feed with it.

Quoting Akizidy214 (Reply 17):
But my instinct tells me it going to be Virgin. If it was AA why wouldn't they announce from DFW. My money is on Virgin LGW-DFW is preforming quite well for AA & BA and there is plenty of room for more competition. Not sure about BA but AA is oversold on almost a daily basis now.

Possible, I suppose, but I highly, highly doubt it.

Not only would Virgin be stupid to go up against AA/BA on their largest hub-to-hub route (London-DFW), but they would also have to know that the market is well served as it is. The lift AA and BA put in the market (3 daily 777s) is plenty to handle demand.


User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16254 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 18):
Not only would Virgin be stupid to go up against AA/BA on their largest hub-to-hub route (London-DFW), but they would also have to know that the market is well served as it is.

Doesnt VS do that on a daily basis with JFK-LHR?

-JD


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11386 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16234 times:

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 19):
Doesnt VS do that on a daily basis with JFK-LHR?

No, they don't.

Allow me to rephrase: VS would be stupid to go up against AA/BA on the route linking their two largest respective hubs -- London (Gatwick, likely soon to be Heathrow for both AA/BA) and Dallas/Fort Worth. There is just no way the market could support another airline.

DFW-London is completely different that New York-London. New York-London is far larger, far busier, and far more premium.


User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16234 times:

My bet would be KLM to Amsterdam!!!


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User currently offlineMastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16154 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 18):
Nope. I doubt you'll see AF restarting DFW anytime soon. The market is developing, but there is still not enough O&D coming out of DFW support the flight, and O&D is now all the flight will have to depend on, along with connections over CDG, as Delta has pulled their DFW hub and a huge amount of feed with it.

I just remembered where I read it:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/3165125/

Of course, since it's not an official announcement, it doesn't really count.


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7478 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16154 times:

Hmmmm.......Im not really sure if it will be an destination served by AA. If it were, why would it be done from England?

I really would think that VS would be a mistake.

I ve always thought that AA should serve either MAD or BRU from DFW, but I dont think thats the case if its being done from England.

My guess is that they are going to formally announce LHR service. Of course its been known for sometime that BA will serve DFW from LHR when Open skies take effect.

AF has been rumored, but DFW is a huge one world fortress, why would AF try and take on that?

QF would be nice, but due to lack of aircraft, I dont see it.

[Edited 2007-06-26 02:06:29]


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16067 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 23):
I ve always thought that AA should serve either MAD or BRU from DFW, but I dont think thats the case if its being done from England.

AA has done both in the past, and both routes performed very very poorly. AA will be dropping DFW-ZRH in the near future, so I think its unlikely that AA will be adding European destination out of DFW.

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Dallas getting direct service into Heathrow after all of these years is a pretty big deal, so as I said above, thats what I think the announcement from the UK will be: AA and BA both announcing that there London services will be transferring from Gatwick to Heathrow. Lots of talk about endless connection possibilities now available via LHR, etc, etc.

As for the QF thing, that would be a big deal and it has been discussed/rumored for years, but neither AA or QF have an aircraft that can handle the route nonstop......and its been reported that flying DFW-AKL-SYD is nonstarter.


25 Bartond : I guess the announcement will be the switch from Gatwick to Heathrow, which is a huge deal, but I agree that the title of both this thread and of the
26 Post contains images Akizidy214 : I agree with you. But It will be a disappointment in my opinion if DFW doesn't announce a new carrier or an old carrier starting service again.
27 BigGSFO : If JAL returns to DFW, perhaps AA will go back down to 1 daily NRT non-stop freeing up a 777 (or two?) since they can code-share on each other's flig
28 MAH4546 : Doomsday? Try a reality check, even though thats not what some Dallas fans like to hear. People have been pretty spot on with their guesses.
29 Dallasnewark : I'm just curious, what do you have against Dallas? Have you ever been here before?
30 Post contains images OPNLguy : SWA is re-starting DAL-BPT service..
31 Post contains images QF108 : QF would be great, but as has been said available planes could be a problem. Im going with VS and the first service will coincide with Virgin America
32 Post contains images SailorOrion : My wish is LH to MUC but I don't see that happening .... SailorOrion
33 Dallasnewark : That would be awesome, non-stop flight to Oktoberfest
34 Post contains images SailorOrion : Yeah, but I don't see anyone operating that route only 3 weeks per annum SailorOrion
35 764 : Maybe it is just coincidence, that they want to announce on the 27th, but it strikes me as interesting that Lufthansa will be holding a press conferen
36 Dallasnewark : LH's DFW-FRA flight has very high loads, just like the AA flight. I took both the number of times and they are almost always full. I wonder if Munche
37 NorthstarBoy : pardon me for asking a stupid question, but does the 744 even have the range to fly SYD-DFW without making a stop in LA or perhaps HNL?
38 UAL777UK : Seeing as the announcment is going to made in London surely its got to be AA flying LHR-DFW and possibly BA following suit.
39 Davescj : But then why would the announcement be made in London for these routes? It wouldn't make sense. I don't know......VS may have a shot, abet a long one
40 AA777LVR : I know I'm a "dreamer", but what about the possibility of AA metal operating DFW-SYD due to QF's shortage of equipment? I believe we still have a few
41 ManchesterMAN : Wow 40+ posts and nobody has mentioned bmi! It wouldn't be at all surprising to see a BD LHR-DFW route. I know all the theory why it wouldn't work but
42 Post contains images UAL777UK : i would be surprised to see BD annouce this route, very surprised...I think they will go for an easy money route first, so will announce something li
43 Flybhx764 : AA will annouce DFW - BHX - DFW, or VS will come to DFW
44 Post contains images QF108 : That is a sight I'd like to see an AA777 in SYD, sadly though the fact they are announcing it in London means it has to be a European route. Maybe Fe
45 LHR777 : ...except BA already announced some weeks back that they would be moving DFW, ATL and IAH service to LHR. (Source : BA press releases)
46 Post contains images COEI2007 : I would love it was EI to DUB, but that wont happen until next year!
47 MAH4546 : I have absolutely nothing about Dallas and have been there many times. Just because I think in an unbiased and realistic way regarding Dallas' interna
48 DLPMMM : Where did you get that the announcement was going to be made in London? The press release only said that the announcement would be made from the UK.
49 Contrails : My thought exactly. Is there any chance this could be DFW-SYD, by AA or QF?
50 Davescj : Don't forget, BA and BMI just did the whole BMED swap merger thing. I am sure that BMI will have their hands full of that. Also, I would expect BMI t
51 Drgmobile : Folks -- If you read the original article and a few of your colleagues' posts, you'd note that the announcement is being made from the U.K. That would
52 Post contains images Buck3y3nut : Because the people at Air India aren't really the smartest of the bunch
53 GlobalATL : DFW is America's second largest hub? Didn't know that.
54 Commavia : Yes. AA's hub at DFW is the second largest hub in the United States, after Delta at Atlanta, and before United at O'Hare.
55 Post contains images KC135TopBoom : Yesssss!!!!!!!!! Dallas is DAL and they DO NOT have international service. Well the story says Fagan will make the announcement from the UK, I guess
56 AA61Hvy : Perhaps the announcement will be that they are upgrading the Saab to an ERJ on the DFW-College Station run?
57 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ...you're kidding, right? Not with a profit-potential payload. You do realize that VS isn't even who I'm talking about, right? Ooooohhhh, Ima tell Me
58 Post contains images DeltaFFinDFW : That would be awesome news! I fly to CLL about once every few months and hate the Saabs
59 Post contains images Rdukid : So if this announcement ends up being AA flying from DFW to LHR will the RDU-LGW flight get to switch over to LHR also?
60 FLYGUY767 : So in other words ... MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING -JD
61 JCS17 : As dumb and worthless as I think Fagan is, I highly doubt he's going to announce the swap of services between LGW and LHR with this much fanfare. Then
62 EK156 : My wishful thinking would say DXB ... but I think we are still not in the majors yet
63 Post contains images FlyPIJets : Most likely - or - disappear
64 Humberside : According to the Sunday Times earlier this year, BA wil start LHR-DFW in October 2008 Would LHR-JFK be easy money or a blood bath and 'prestige route
65 LHR777 : As BA are moving, rather than adding additional service, i'd say yes, it does include the BA2027/2026 service.
66 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : There is a difference between biased and hopeful....and im thinking most of us are the latter I'll join the others in saying DFW-LHR on AA/BA Shannon
67 FlyingClrs727 : Any bets on how long it will take Southwest to get that restriction lifted?
68 Post contains images Davidlc3 : Has anyone considered Eos adding service?
69 Post contains images Womack17 : It has to be PVG-DAL on a 73G!!!! I held a seance and Herb Kelleher's dearly departed third cousin twice removed told me the new routing. Prepare to
70 ConcordeBoy : ...a little pot/kettle action here? Very doubtful, as IAH has already been announced... and they're likely to hit California et al before doubling up
71 FLYGUY767 : Just where is the mystery announcement that this topic was started with? -JD
72 LAXdude1023 : Im really hoping that this announcement doesnt have to do with LHR. We already know that DFW will have LHR service once open skies come in. I would li
73 FLYGUY767 : Miami has a much stronger demand and has the cargo and O/D to support service to Europe multiple times daily with American Airlines. DFW has become l
74 JayDavis : Okay, I've got a question about all these rumors. Where did AA get those "rights" to fly from DFW to LHR??? There are only a few cities from the US th
75 Viscount724 : It's Open Skies effective March 31, 2008 and all those restrictions disappear.
76 MAH4546 : I'm not denying my comments have been a 'bucket of ice water' for Dallas fans, but the truth remains that dallas will always play fourth fiddle to Chi
77 Davidlc3 : As much as I hate to admit it, I must agree with MAH4546. Since AA has the monopoly here in DFW we usually get the short end of every stick from a/c
78 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : 100% Agreed.. Although it is a large metro area, AA is putting its long-haul routes where the demand, and yield can be sustained on a constant basis.
79 Post contains images JayDavis : Not going to tell you where I got the news but here is the scoop. Both DFW and IAH will be moving to LHR next summer................... Mark it down..
80 Tismfu : Err... did you read the first line of the first post of this topic? Actually, yes, I would read something into that. If Fagan's presence in the UK ha
81 Bartond : I know, I'm just giving you a hard time. You just seem to go out of your way sometimes to mention the negatives about DFW international service. Sort
82 Bartond : But then again that was already said earlier so I won't double up. MAH you're off the hook - just be easy on my precious DFW sometimes, eh?
83 LAXdude1023 : Oh, I dont think anyone will deny that MIA has more demand to Europe than DFW for AA. Thats goes without saying. However MIA and DFW will both be on
84 102IAHexpress : Actually I think a lot of people would deny that. Correct me if I’m wrong but this is the current AA metal from Europe to MIA and DFW AA DFW- FRA d
85 Post contains images CitrusCritter : I hate to break your hearts, but it's SY to MBJ.
86 MAH4546 : It isn't about AA, but in general, MIA does own Dallas in European flights, with a significantly larger market in both directions. AA has done a poor
87 AirRyan : I do know that WN will be announcing some new flights 6/27 for their Nov schedule on....
88 Dallasnewark : Here we go again, comparing the 3rd poorest US city, which is Miami, to one of its most prosperous, which is Dallas. You can't even compare business
89 MAH4546 : Dallasnewark, sorry buddy, but the Miami market has significant business travel to Europe, especially southern Europe. The only market in Europe where
90 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : False Statement.. Source for you statement that Miami is the 3rd Poorest City in the US? By what measure are you saying Dallas is one of the most pro
91 MAH4546 : Good point at FLYGUY. Last year none of the Dallas-Europe flights averaged over 50% O&D while all three Miami Europe routes averaged at least 63% O&D.
92 FLYGUY767 : Thanks for the information. I cannot say that it is surprising. A lot of people dont realize that Miami flights dont need to go out full to be profit
93 SkyyMaster : Not likely at all. If the APA balked at DFW-PEK, does anyone think they would accept DFW-SYD which is at least 2-3 hours longer? Maybe once they get
94 JFK787NYC : MAH is 100% right. Miami/ South Florida (Dade/Broward County) is the third richest City/County in the United States, After New York & Los Angeles. Mi
95 AA61Hvy : Okay that is not true, Dallas is one of the youngest and newest cities around. I'm guessing you have not been there. The distribution of wealth is mu
96 Post contains links SamL : Here is the confirmation from the BA online press office: British Airways has confirmed that its flights to Dallas Fort Worth and Houston will move fr
97 LAXdude1023 : Airports like DFW and also ATL dont rely on O&D, they rely on connections. I think it would go without saying that MIA has more international O&D tha
98 Post contains links JFK787NYC : Oops sorry i thought they only flew FRA-EWR didn;t know they flew FRA-JFK. Miami-Dade County Demographics As of the census² of 2000, there were 2,253
99 AA61Hvy : I still see no evidence on why Dallas is a second tier city
100 Post contains links LAXdude1023 : You can just simplify it this way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_metropolitan_areas Showing Dallas/Fort Worth as # 4 and Miami/S
101 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : Im still waiting for evidence as well ..... Shannon
102 Post contains links LAXdude1023 : Dallas is NOT a second tier city. JFK787NYC is wrong. Take a look at this list of Global world cities and we can gage exactly how important these cit
103 JFK787NYC : I guess you are right that DALLAS is not a second tier city... BUT, the wikipeida pages does not include the Palm Beach area. in that list. The Miami
104 Lucianflyboy : Flights already loading into the system!! 29MAR FLT SEGMENT DPTR ARVL MEALS EQP ELPD MILES SM 2 BA 192 DFW LHR 625P 930A‡ M 777 9.05 4747 N DEP-TER
105 FlyingClrs727 : Probably got them from their One World partner BA. The new open skies agreement between the US and the EU supercedes the Bermuda II Treaty restrictio
106 Post contains links FLYGUY767 : Some of the wealthiest people in the World live in Dade and Surrounding Counties Boca Raton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Raton Fisher Island htt
107 PBIflyguy : Not be to be argumentative becasue your post is quite informative, but one item needs clarification. I live here and work out of the airports you ref
108 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : One question....how did we turn this into a Dallas Vs Miami debate when all this thread was about was an announcement of new service? Shannon
109 Thomasphoto60 : Very commonplace occurrence for threads here to get sidetracked and go off into wild and irrelevant directions. Thomas
110 LAXdude1023 : Yes, no arguement there. Yes thats true. Overall yes, thats true. However ive been refering to AA only, not all other airlines. Of course MIA has mor
111 Jlk : This is not the one. We would have heard from AI before the DFW announcement if it were to happen.
112 FLYGUY767 : The announcement was not a new service... The announcement was an airport move... -JD
113 Post contains links Dallasnewark : Here are your facts, According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2004, Miami had the third highest incidence of family incomes below the federal poverty
114 FLYGUY767 : Facts.. Figures.. Are not going to erode the fact that MIA has a much stronger demand than DFW for international growth.. The coddling of DFW as an i
115 DfwRevolution : Hey, when did we become the Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington metroplex?!
116 LAXdude1023 : DFW is the most important hub in AA's system. Not the most important European hub. ORD and JFK both are more important to Europe for AA. But MIA and
117 JFK787NYC : It is the third poorest city in terms of people living their because BUMs are migrated to Florida because they can live on the street 365 Days of the
118 JFK787NYC : Does anyone know a website to see the figures of air travel specifically for Americans MIA-Europe flights?
119 Dallasnewark : Miami is a vacation destination(3rd poorest city in US). Dallas is a business destination(DFW Metroplex has one of the greatest concentrations of bil
120 FLYGUY767 : See Below Proven irrelevant as DTW and MIA both have a much larger international O/D market than DFW.. Proven Utterly and Senselessly False Statement
121 JFK787NYC : Miami Economy Because of its proximity to Latin America, Miami serves as the headquarters of Latin American operations for over 1400 multinational cor
122 Dallasnewark : I've been to South Florida several times and I have residenses in DFW and NYC areas. Refer to my previous post regarding Miami as a tourist destinati
123 Post contains images Dallasnewark : And where are the headquarters of EXXON, would you check please?
124 Post contains images Incitatus : Please come up with better facts. The city of Miami is a small share of the Miami metro area. That hinges on American's desire. Look at Atlanta. Not
125 Dallasnewark : [quote=JFK787NYC,reply=121]Because of its proximity to Latin America, Miami serves as the headquarters of Latin American operations for over 1400 mult
126 LGAtoIND : So, could we stop arguing DFW vs. MIA and actually say what this new Intl. announcement is?
127 MAH4546 : In international travel not only does Miami have more Y demand than Dallas but it has more premium demand too. Hence, a variety of European airlines f
128 JFK787NYC : Where is Exxon Headquartered? lol Irving, Texas their in the oil & gas business. Does Florida have Oil & Gas? How can you say that Dallas has more For
129 Post contains images Thomasphoto60 : I suspect that the many Atlantans who populate this forum will take exception to this comment (though I completely agree with it ) and will likely vo
130 Jr : Noticed that this is a couple of hours behind their scheduled departure times for LGW. Is this still timed well for European and Asian connections ou
131 LAXdude1023 : I know MIA does, but show me somthing that DTW does. That I dont buy. Detroit is a dying city. Yes for sure. I agree. There importance is just on dif
132 Dallasnewark : I said Texas vs New York (statewide), please read more carefully. Truth hurts, doesn't it. Look it up, the lists are out there
133 JFK787NYC : My friend I dont live in buffalo I live in New York City. How can we count the difference between a service city and a full blown out blue collar fac
134 Post contains links FLYGUY767 : False Statement O/D is driven with a combination of two key factors if which the largest O/D markets in the World share both Tourist and Business tra
135 Dallasnewark : I lived in New York City for a number of years as well and worked in WTC, but that doesn't change the fact the Texas has more Fortune 1000 companies
136 Post contains links JFK787NYC : Fortune 500 Statistics New York State - 94 http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/states/NY.html New York has 94 Fortune 500 companies
137 Dallasnewark : Ok, let's wrap it up. In no time someone like ANCFlyer would show up and delete all these posts
138 FLYGUY767 : Regarding Texas vs New York. Do research before posting next time.. This thread has gone way off course, I apologize for any added reading I have bro
139 JFK787NYC : I did not see that he said that. I have actually been to TEXAS I have never been to Dallas. I have been to Houston, But, he can say whatever he wants
140 Dallasnewark : You haven't proved anything here. I provided it you the facts and you still dispute them. For the record I was comparing New York State to Texas, not
141 Dallasnewark : Used to work on Wall Street, and lived overall in New York for over 20 years. Once again, I just povided you the facts about the states, the facts yo
142 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Quite Possible . . . Instead . . .
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