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Why WN Does Not Have TV Screen On Boeing 737-700?  
User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7467 times:

I flew on SW from IND to LAS with stop at PHX and return n/s from LAS to IND, I noticed they do not have any tv screen to keep people company on long route aboard Boeing 737-700 while I flew on CO from IAH-IND, aboard Boeing 737-700, they has tv pvt for passenger to watch the short program and news on over 2.5 hrs flight. I am not sure about Airtran since they has 737-700. I notice that most of lowest airlines has tv for passengers. I may be wrong.

I also notice that on Airbus 319 and Airbus 320? aboard NW, they do not have tv screen. is that correct? I was on NW from IND-LAS, I was surprised when there is no tv popout from overhead. I was so bored but lucky I has laptop so I put in dvd and watch movie on laptop all way to LAS. I am not sure about another airlines so any information would be sure apprecation.

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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7453 times:

IFE systems are an airline specified option......thus CO 737NGs have IFE while Southwest 737NGs dont. Southwest and Northwest have determined that IFE is not a necessary feature on their domestic flights within the continental US (NW does offer IFE on its flights from the mainland to Hawaii).....remember, the installantion and maintainance of IFE systems can be expensive and programming for the system must be obtained. Its a business decision, nothing more.

User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7419 times:

WN doesn't have PTV because they are WN.

Want bells whistles and frills... don't fly a low cost carrier.


User currently offlineVxg From United States of America, joined May 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7374 times:

JetBlue and Frontier both have in-seat video screens on their aircraft - although its somewhat debatable if they position themselves as "Low Cost carriers". But they certainly aren't majors.

I realize folks on these forums debate on the necessity of IFE. Personally it is absolutely a consideration when I choose which airline to fly and IMO its becoming an expected requirement for longer legs. Of course fare and FF accounts also play into it.

VxG


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7350 times:

WN has never had any tv's on any of their aircraft, IIRC.


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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 962 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7334 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Want bells whistles and frills... don't fly a low cost carrier.

Or alternatively, bring your own IFE.


User currently offlineElectech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7312 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I was so bored but lucky I has laptop so I put in dvd and watch movie on laptop all way to LAS.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't DVD players on the prohibited electronic devices list? Or is that only for critical phases of flight? I know that malfunctioning CD/DVD players can be huge emitters and create quite a bit of havoc...

Maybe that is one more reason to install PTVs...Not everyone has solid-state media players



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7285 times:

Quoting Electech6299 (Reply 6):
but aren't DVD players on the prohibited electronic devices list?

I don't believe so. As long as they do not emit any sort of wireless transmitting that either sends or recieves info which, DVD players dont, it is only prohibited in the first/last ten minutes of flight (below 10,000 feet).



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7275 times:

Actually, our 737-700s do have TV screens, but they only keep the two pilots up front company...  Wink

User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5367 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7221 times:

Quoting Vxg (Reply 3):
I realize folks on these forums debate on the necessity of IFE. Personally it is absolutely a consideration when I choose which airline to fly and IMO its becoming an expected requirement for longer legs.

It is also a consideration when I fly.
I won't take a flight that has IFE if I can help it.  old 

There. Let the debate re-commence!

bb


User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4236 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7176 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 9):
I won't take a flight that has IFE if I can help it.

Even if its Channel 9?


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5367 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7156 times:

Quoting Apodino (Reply 10):
Even if its Channel 9?

OK, let me change that to: "I won't take a flight that has a personal tv screen staring me in the face if I can help it." A few audio channels are OK with me (particularly Channel 9!)  old  (Thanks 'dino.  Wink )

bb


User currently offlineElectech6299 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7144 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 7):
As long as they do not emit any sort of wireless transmitting that either sends or recieves info

Wrong- not sends or receives info, but transmits on a frequency that could interfere. (yes the FCC cares about info- but both the FAA and FCC care about interference). It's not about digital/bluetooth/cellular connectivity capability, it's about EMF interference. Any spinning optical disc reader can generate interference under the right (or wrong) circumstances.

So a malfunctioning CD/DVD player already violates FCC laws, but those laws don't magically prevent the device being brought onto an airplane. That's why the FAA (and individual airlines) get involved as to what can be brought on, or turned on, during flight.

Oh yeah, I'm sure that laptop playing the DVD had wireless connectivity... Hope that was turned off too



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User currently offlineOnAClearDay From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 54 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7118 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
"I won't take a flight that has a personal tv screen staring me in the face if I can help it."

On F9 you don't have to pay for DirecTV, and you can turn the screen to dark.



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User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7085 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I notice that most of lowest airlines has tv for passengers.

What are your trying to say here? Is WN a low airline?

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I also notice that on Airbus 319 and Airbus 320? aboard NW, they do not have tv screen. is that correct?

Well, if you were on those a/c types and they didn't have a tv screen, then that must be correct?? I'm not sure I understand your question.

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I was surprised when there is no tv popout from overhead.

Are you surprised when there is no 'tv popout from overhead' on the 737-300 series, as well?

The bottom line answer to your question is, WN does not have any IFE on their a/c because they don't spec. it out.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Because Air Namibia doesn't fly the 737-700.

You beat me to the punch!!  laughing 


User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7085 times:

I flew on Frontier last Aug, I sure enjoy tv screen, I just use as map route to see where we are at. Some people on my flight turn their tv off. It is really good way to have IFE to keep people or young kids time by watch good show on IFE.

User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6306 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7065 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Because Air Namibia doesn't fly the 737-700



Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 15):
You beat me to the punch!!

$20 says I was more determined  Smile


User currently offlineKstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 748 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6943 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Want bells whistles and frills... don't fly a low cost carrier

Or don't fly some legacy carriers Wink



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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6896 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
flew on SW from IND to LAS with stop at PHX and return n/s from LAS to IND, I noticed they do not have any tv screen to keep people company on long route aboard Boeing 737-700 while I flew on CO from IAH-IND, aboard Boeing 737-700, they has tv pvt

Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

that's how they continue to be profitable.

what planet are you on???



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6858 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 19):
they don't offer anything on any route.

Yes they do! Their perky FA's!  Silly



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6561 times:

Quoting Vxg (Reply 3):
JetBlue and Frontier both have in-seat video screens on their aircraft - although its somewhat debatable if they position themselves as "Low Cost carriers". But they certainly aren't majors.

Jetblue and Frontier are very much indeed major airlines in the United States.

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):

Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

Do you mean in terms of IFE? Because we DO offer Food, snacks and Drinks and that such..

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 19):
Yes they do! Their perky FA's! Silly

...and they are VERY Perky indeed!  laughing   laughing 

Alex



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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6545 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):
Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

that's how they continue to be profitable.

I don't think that the lack of IFE has much effect on Southwest's profits. I think that if Southwest were to offer IFE, they would continue to be profitable. In fact, IFE may in fact increase profits and would make them more competitive in terms of features against JetBlue, Frontier, Airtran, and Delta's transcon product.



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3309 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6541 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):
Southwest is a no frills carrier. they don't offer anything on any route.

that's how they continue to be profitable.

what planet are you on???

Explain, then, how jetBlue, Frontier, Virgin Blue, and Westjet (all of which are LCCs that offer the LiveTV service) manage to stay profitable?


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6498 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):

Explain, then, how jetBlue, Frontier, Virgin Blue, and Westjet (all of which are LCCs that offer the LiveTV service) manage to stay profitable?

But they haven't, not Frontier and Jetblue both had and have currenty continued to lose money per quarter.

Alex



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User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6377 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 18):
what planet are you on???

you really need to respect people as people come here to have a nice friendly conversation rather than you insult or make funny of people's answer.

The reason I posted this topic is that I want to know why SWA do not have IFE while most of lowest airlines has IFE.


25 N1120A : As said, several low cost carriers have more whistles and frills than legacies. This is even true in some respects for WN. You are wrong. The FCC doe
26 Post contains images Jogales : Can you not keep yourself occupied for a couple of hours without staring at a TV? Look out the window, there's some great IFE for you! Josh
27 747400sp : Southwest is basically a short step up from Greyhound, so you not going to get any luxury on Southwest.
28 Boeing743 : yeah, I did spend some time look out the window and see the land changes from East to west.
29 Itsnotfinals : just like economy on any other domestic us airline
30 Jogales : Except in some cases more comfortable with better service. Josh
31 DfwRevolution : Seriously? Go take a trip on Greyhound, and fly back one-way on Southwest. Your opinion is rather insulting to the product that WN offers.
32 KBFIspotter : I really have never understood what the big deal is about IFE... For me, it does not matter what kind of IFE service an airline offers... If I am not
33 Post contains images ArcrftLvr :
34 AznCSA4QF744ER : What you pay for is what you get. Nowadays people bring along laptop, DVD machine, Ipod, and etc to keep them entertain why brother with those TV scre
35 Itsnotfinals : back in the good old days there was no IFE ....... several LCC's have IFE like B6 and F9. your point is not really understandable.
36 Post contains images AirRyan : Seriously, it's not the product but it's people that WN bings to the table - they say they gave people the "freedom" to fly, but perhaps the Springer
37 Sking11 : When I flew Jetblue it was the DirectTV was free but I also flew Frontier and had to pay $5 for it. That was a year ago don't know if they changed th
38 AznCSA4QF744ER : And how often do you see B6 offering $39 one way fare from LGB OAK? F9 you have to pay $5 to watch a show or movie..... F9 and B6 charges a lot for o
39 United787 : I knew it, AA is a low cost carrier! No IFE on the MD-80s and no PTVs on the 767-300ERs!
40 AirframeAS : Welcome to the A.net culture!
41 WNCrew : Having flown for other carriers myself, AND having MANY coworkers who have as well, I can say, all pax are the same. I've had the same low-class pax
42 Davescj : Remember, SWA original biz model was point to point -- often fairly short flights. In fact, one of the original flights was between Dallas and Housto
43 N1120A : It is still the same. B6 intended to charge for TV after a trial period on start up but ended up entering into an agreement with LiveTV, and then buy
44 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : I always bring a book or a sheet of soduku (that game makes me mad! i never get it! ) and have never had trouble entertaining myself. Shannon
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