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Qatar Airways Starts New York (EWR) And Geneva  
User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1817 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8791 times:

QR 083 departed early at 08:39 local time for Newark Liberty International Airport via Geneva. This marks the start of Qatar Airways's North American destinations.

The flight is roughly 17 hours long with the stopover, I hope there are some spotters in Newark ready to take photos of the arrival.

 

Good Luck QR!

[Edited 2007-06-26 10:49:02]


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User currently offlineAirlittoral From France, joined Sep 2006, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8618 times:

They are already having quite a hard time to operate with their lilliputian-sized hub which causes most of, if not all, the flights to be delayed and connections to be missed, I don't know how it's going to be like with additionnal destinations...

User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8560 times:

any info on the lestimated oads (bookings) for the first few weeks of operation?

User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8496 times:

why the GVA stop?
why not nonstop?
can they sell EWR - GVA?


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1817 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8441 times:

Quoting Amirs (Reply 3):
why the GVA stop?
why not nonstop?

The State of Qatar and Switzerland signed a bi-lateral agreement allowing QR carriers of 5th freedom operations within Switzerland to the US.

QR currently doesnt have enough aircraft to do DOH-EWR nonstop, hence the GVA stop. Plus, GVA-EWR is a profitable route and QR hopes to steal some of the pax from CO and LX using thier superb service and superior aircraft.

Quoting Amirs (Reply 3):
can they sell EWR - GVA?

Yes.



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4768 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8302 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 4):
CO and LX using thier superb service and superior aircraft.

superior service and in-flight product YES...

superior aircraft...NO as LX too uses an A 332 on the route but CO uses a B 767-400ER.


User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8299 times:

I know the IAD route has been given a non-stop, which i thought was interesting, that too, over EWR. Currently, there is no IAD-GVA service and i am sure QR would have also done well with a GVA stop en-route to IAD. I am assuming some sort of strategy when planning these flights  Smile


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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8285 times:

Quoting Airlittoral (Reply 1):
They are already having quite a hard time to operate with their lilliputian-sized hub which causes most of, if not all, the flights to be delayed and connections to be missed, I don't know how it's going to be like with additionnal destinations...

*is v worried about the 1 hour 40 mins connection he has at DOH in nine days*



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21554 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8252 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 5):
superior aircraft...NO as LX too uses an A 332 on the route but CO uses a B 767-400ER.

Superior equipped aircraft (i.e. better IFE and such), perhaps. Also, CO sometimes uses a 762 on EWR-GVA.

-Mir



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1817 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8208 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
Superior equipped aircraft (i.e. better IFE and such), perhaps.

That's what I meant; thanks.

The flight has landed in GVA and is now on its way to Newark.  Smile



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8179 times:

Why cant they call it Newark? its a proper city its its own right.

User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8092 times:

This marks a very significant chapter in QR's history-the begining of their services to the US.

Service wise QR is in a class of very few,personally i think their service is better then any airline i have travelled (and i have flown plenty) and the attention to detail is unparalled.They are my 2nd favourite airline after Etihad-nothing beats their flat-beds in J class.The perfect airline would have those seats and QR's service.

None the less godspeed to QR and wish them the best as they deserve no less.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16856 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7881 times:

When I passed EWR before QR was not there (yet), however their advertising promoting the new flight are up and down the Turnpike and in todays NY Times.


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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7851 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 5):
superior service and in-flight product YES...

superior aircraft...NO as LX too uses an A 332 on the route but CO uses a B 767-400ER.

Regarding Comfort and IFE especially Business Class of LX is currently inferior to QR but by thistime next year LX will hopefully have it's new Business Class and IFE for the A330's installed and then LX will be again able to fully compete with QR


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7828 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 10):
Why cant they call it Newark? its a proper city its its own right.

....probably because it's a New York City coterminal as designated by the DOT, PANYNJ, and nearly all aviation bilaterals in place with the USA.

The facts that it's positioned closer to the smaller city of Newark, NJ or in another state from its coterminals are, for all logistical purposes other than differentiated catchment, immaterial. Same with CVG. Same with IAD. Same with......


User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7786 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 4):
QR hopes to steal some of the pax from CO and LX using thier superb service and superior aircraft.

I assume eventually it'll be a collaboration of QR and LX together.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7752 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 5):
CO uses a B 767-400ER.

Exactly LOL. Better on the A330.. KIDDING

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 14):
Same with CVG. Same with IAD.

How is it the same with these?



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User currently offlineWorldsurfer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7747 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 12):
When I passed EWR before QR was not there (yet), however their advertising promoting the new flight are up and down the Turnpike and in todays NY Times

i was just in EWR , and still no Qatar Bird , according to Flightview QR83 is estimated to arrive around 6:42 PM EST


User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7738 times:

Flight is scheduled to arrive 1858EDT.

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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4895 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7727 times:
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I just noticed that QR is offering a fantastic J fare EWR-GVA roundtrip for US$1729 all-in (including taxes)! CO's discounted summer Business fare is easily $3400-$3500...no brainer here...as already mentioned here, QR's J service easily beats the pants off of CO's and LX's....

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16856 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7599 times:

I stopped by again and watched everything, QR flight # 83 landed at 6:46 (according to my cars clock). I watched from my favorite spot on the Northside of the airport (sorry no photos), I then drove to Terminal B to check things out close up. She parked at gate 55, huge contingent of Port Authority and State Officials to greet some VIP's coming off the flight, I don't know who they are but they had a huge entourage of people with them. There was a line of 10-15 Limos parked in Front of the IAB at Terminal B, the Port Authority Police kept people off the sidewalks near the Limos.

The only person I recognized was that British Guy who works for CNN, the really loud weird guy who does alot of aviation stories. He was wearing a rain coat and a three piece suit, did he know how hot and humid it was outside? He had an entourage, plus he was one of the first people off the flight carrying a QR goodies bag.

As for the check -in areas, QR has EWR well staffed.It seemed they had more staff and positions than what was necessary, but I guess they want to go the extra mile. Lots of folks checking in for the departure.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineAirLittoral From France, joined Sep 2006, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

Quoting KHI747 (Reply 11):
Service wise QR is in a class of very few,personally i think their service is better then any airline i have travelled (and i have flown plenty) and the attention to detail is unparalled.They are my 2nd favourite airline after Etihad-nothing beats their flat-beds in J class.The perfect airline would have those seats and QR's service.

Well, in J...maybe. In Y, definitely not, it's more like they're trying their best but they're not quite at that level yet. I could go on and tell you the many little details that made me and my occasional co-flyers be very sceptic about QR quality of service.
But apart from that, the main problem on QR, is, as everyone will agree, the....D-E-L-A-Y-S!!! It is pure logic here: how can you possibly operate a large fleet and a worldwide network with such a small airport?


User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7439 times:

Here a few shots taken during the stop at GVA :

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6278/inaugural001wb6.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1913/msa7acfvacatepd7.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7849/inaugural015df6.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9417/inaugural023py0.jpg

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9537/inaugural027gn6.jpg

Source : Geneva Spotters Association



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User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7171 times:

Quoting AirLittoral (Reply 21):
Well, in J...maybe. In Y, definitely not, it's more like they're trying their best but they're not quite at that level yet. I could go on and tell you the many little details that made me and my occasional co-flyers be very sceptic about QR quality of service.

My comments were for J specifically.On my multiple experiences on both airlines,never got the chance to sample Y or F.


User currently offlineJeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7097 times:

Great news!
Thanks for the info.

I am going to ride on the EWR-GVA leg.



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25 Post contains images SandroZRH : Which is ridiculous as they allow the oil-subsidised carriers to threaten their home carriers market rather than trying to project the company they h
26 LXA340 : True, that's so stupid man
27 JoFMO : I think it is the wise decision that the Swiss government allows to bring much better service to Romandie. The Romaide is the step child of Swiss and
28 Abrelosojos : = So its one government subsidized airline fighting another government subsidized airline. Why do you care so much? In the end, as a Swiss consumer,
29 ConcordeBoy : ...neither are in not only the city, but even the primary state/federal district, that they advertise in their namesake. CVG isn't in Cincinnati, or
30 SandroZRH : Because the likes of QR, EK and EY are flooding the market with their oil-subsidized overcapacity and try to push "normal" airlines out of the market
31 Post contains links OceansWorld : This thread sould interest you, if you haven't seen it already. Backlash Against Middle East Super Carriers? (by Reggaebird Jun 28 2007 in Civil Avia
32 Abrelosojos : = Or you could argue that the citizens of these countries should not buy the oil in the first place ... (see the slippery slope) ... Cheers, A.
33 SandroZRH : Yes you could, and it would be absolutely amazing if we didnt need the oil. It's a damn shame how we're dependant on the oil countries. But you know
34 Adriaticflight : That would be Richard Quest, the man with the most bizarre English accent ever. Please guys don't think that normal people speak like that. His progr
35 LXA340 : Exactly, those Airlines are a big threat to Airlines like LX or any other major european cariers, the last thing our governments should do is to make
36 Abrelosojos : = You do realize that non-Swiss fly Swiss right? Anyways, this is a silly argument. I am surprised that Switzerland (a country I have long admired fo
37 SandroZRH : What the hell has that got to do with wahat he was talking about?
38 LXA340 : Yeah really, did I ever say something like that...No. I am talking about the management, employees and the whole Swiss philosophy / products. In fact
39 Jc2354 : Especially since they announced a code-share with United.
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