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TAM MD-11 - Seatmaps/seat Info For Business Class  
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6860 times:

Does anyone have any info on the seating available on TAM's MD-11's operating MXP-GRU-MXP ? I have to travel to SAO next week, and am booked on JJ, so would appreciate any info on pitch/recline/etc, also IFE, in seat power etc ? There's nothing on Seatguru or Seatexpert, and TAM's website seems to deny the existence of M11's altogether.

Any info gratefully received, ta

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User currently offlineMarioSplane From Brazil, joined Mar 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6801 times:

Take a look at this flight report. Hope it helps.

CDG-GRU In J On TAM's "new" MD11 (pics) (by Jog Feb 22 2007 in Trip Reports)


Regards.


User currently offlineSAOAP From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 170 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6801 times:

Hi JGPH1A,

Well, I haven't found anything on TAM's website either. Nevertheless, all three JJ MD-11 are ex VARIG planes, hence they still carry the same seating (actually the plane is basically still the same but with a fresh coat of paint and TAM titles) and I do believe the IFE is still the same (unless they have a mobile dvd which VARIG also used to offer in Business Class). Here is a shot from the interior:

Business Class:
http://myaviation.net/?pid=00976238

I already flew on that one, alas, as VARIG's PP-VQK. The business class seat was quite comfortable even though not quite what the competition is offering nowadays. The IFE was poor (if not non-existent) though. Can't remember how much the seats recline (probably something along the lines of 150° or so). The pitch was also quite good. If you like window seats, the MD-11 will be a dream come true as the windows are huge. Look for VARIG MD-11 (GE powered, not the ex SR/LX planes) reviews on seatguru and seatexpert. You might find something there.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Marcelo



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User currently offlinePPSMA From Brazil, joined Aug 2005, 157 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6792 times:

Hi there,

The MD-11s TAM uses to fly that route are ex-VARIG machines and as far as I know they haven´t had them refurbished and brought up to JJ´s fleet standards.

You should then expect VARIG´s old configuration, which means old style C/C seats ( versus JJ 180o. degree recline), and no in-seat PTV (they hand out personal DVD players instead).

I think you´ll also find some additional useful information at the Skytrax website (http://www.airlinequality.com/main/forum.htm) reading some of the reviews made by fellow passengers.

Hope this helps a bit!

Cheers,



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User currently offlineJog From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 273 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6647 times:

The seat layout remained the same as with Varig. In the past I found a seat map on their website but it seems to be gone. Basically there is one row of 6 First class seats. The business cabin is split up in two parts with 6 seats in each row (not sure how many rows). The economy class layout is 3-4-2. There is no personal IFE entertainment or in-seat power available. There are monitors in the aisles but I am not sure if they are used for showing some movies or not. In Business and First you however get your personal player as you can see from my trip report linked by Mario above.

User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6606 times:

I've got it! Nothing like knowing VARIG's old fleet site address by heart...

http://www.varig.com.br/english/frota/MD-11_gr01.htm


User currently offlineJog From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 273 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6564 times:

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 5):
I've got it! Nothing like knowing VARIG's old fleet site address by heart...

Great, that seems to be the right one... And I think it is also right that I remembered the layout in Business wrongly and it is in fact only 2-3-2...


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11438 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6556 times:
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I think is 49C (7 x 7C)... not so comfortable for a long trip.

Felipe



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6526 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 7):
I think is 49C (7 x 7C)... not so comfortable for a long trip.

I actually find it more comfortable than TAP's Top Executive.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6427 times:

Thanks everyone for your info - great trip report too, btw. But I've decided to go with AF via CDG instead, the thought of another transit through that hellhole MXP was too much ! It says a lot about an airport if a transfer through CDG is actually preferable !

Still, maybe next time on JJ, I hope.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6389 times:

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 8):
I actually find it more comfortable than TAP's Top Executive.

Well, then you are comparing probably the two worst transatlantic products....

Rgs,


User currently offlineComeflywithme From Argentina, joined Sep 2006, 265 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6381 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 9):
Thanks everyone for your info - great trip report too, btw. But I've decided to go with AF via CDG instead, the thought of another transit through that hellhole MXP was too much ! It says a lot about an airport if a transfer through CDG is actually preferable !

Still, maybe next time on JJ, I hope.

A wise choice IMHO.

TAM business class hard product on their A330 is far better than the MD11 but AF wins hands down on overall service.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6333 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 9):
I've decided to go with AF via CDG instead

Agree. Wise choice. AF business product is well above TAM.

Rgs,


User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6285 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 10):
Well, then you are comparing probably the two worst transatlantic products....

I was just trying to say that even though the Business class in the M11 hasn't been updated for years, it beats TP's product in my opinion.


User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6239 times:

Quoting MarioSplane (Reply 1):
Take a look at this flight report. Hope it helps

Horibble Business Class!!!


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