RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 10220 times:
Several hints of a portfolio of items for the business traveler "road warriors" with items including:
boarding
seating
fare structure
rapid rewards program
more details to be unveiled in the fall... but almost sounds like a business class section to me.....
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 10028 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 10): 2008 737-700 deliveries cut from 34 to 19...
They just said 9 aircraft have leases that end in Q4 2007 and those may be candidates, they didnt outright say all would be deferrals... they discussed it just after i posted.
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
25 OPNLguy: The 10:00am webcast where all this is discussed is being archived and will be available shortly at: http://www.southwest.com/about_swa/f...ials/invest
26 MSYtristar: Here are my comments: 1) Wow....they brought BHM back....interesting, seeing how XE is flying the route. Very nice to see. 2) I like the 2nd LAS...th
27 SJCRRPAX: I'd read that to mean fewer "Fun Fares" and more full price fares, plus trimming routes that are low yield and depend on "fun Fare Pax's". No perks f
28 United777: Good to see SWA expandng at SEA. Not too long ago they wanted to move from SEA to BFI. 1 new flight to SMF and SJC and four daily flightst o DIA. Good
29 FLYGUY767: WN Schedule Change Highlights Baltimore Decrease of 8 flights Los Angeles and Oakland discontinued Denver Increase of 14 flights New Service to Albuqu
30 FlyCMH: I find it interesting that Columbus is seeing growth by Southwest despite Skybus' introduction into the market. It's worthwhile noting, however, that
31 Fdex727: I'm having trouble with the audio presentation, was there anything decided yet on seating/boarding. I keep seeing hints here and there.
32 Usairways85: Correction PHL -2 LAX (total 0) -1 OAK (total 0) -1 PVD (total 5) +1 BNA (total 3) net loss 3 flts
33 FLYGUY767: US Airways must be happy today... -JD
35 COERJ145: TUS gets a new OAK n/s and an additional SAN flight.
36 DfwRevolution: Those flights are often full from dawn until dusk. They could throw A380 on that route and keep them full. IMO, that is the most unfortunate or at le
37 Acey: I had been wondering about IAD-MDW, which has now lost a flight, because seven seemed like quite a few flights between the two. Are those flights perh
38 Tornado82: Something tells me 30x could be better accomplished by less flights larger aircraft. Once it gets to be that many daily there's no longer the "freque
39 Tom in NO: Those of us in New Orleans won't lose any sleep over that one.....suffice to say we're happy with the eight we're getting. Down the road I think we'l
40 ShannoninAMA: Finally! ive been waiting for that for ages! AMA-DEN 2x each way daily Sad to see a couple of our ABQ flights go (1 each way daily) but im fine with t
41 SANFan: SAN didn't change very much; looks like (on the 12/04 schedule anyway): OAK -2 (now 18/day - not too surprising with the 8 new SFO flights) TUS +1 (no
42 SJCRRPAX: Maybe southwest is one of the two mystery A-380 customers. They could have 7 daily flights with the A380. That is a lot of flights. Does WN have any
43 RL757PVD: Listen to the webcast, there are repeated references to enhanced offerings for businsess travelers, they used the word "porfolio" of things to attrac
44 DfwRevolution: LAS-PHX is at 19x I believe. I do agree that WN should consider a larger fleet type at some point, and the 739ER may be a great place to start. I did
45 SANFan: OAK-SAN (20x daily) and OAK-LAX (22x daily) until late fall anyway... bb
46 AirTranTUS: Hopefully the OAK flight will connect with ATA's flights to Hawaii.
47 DeltaDAWG: Could this be the opening that FL was looking for? One, is there enough traffic for BWI-LAX & maybe BWI-SFO for FL to take this one up? Second, what
48 Alias1024: The Denver additions are interesting. DEN-SEA is a little puzzling since there are already three airlines serving this route, each with a hub at one e
49 FLYGUY767: Puzzling Why? WN does not need a hub to make a route work, this has been proven over and over again with routes like: SMF-SAN, BUR-SJC, and SNA-SMF W
50 OPNLguy: N281WN will op BFI-DAL tomorrow 6/28.... Maybe the rain will ease-up so the party won't be washed out..
51 Rampart: Their bread and butter for 36 years as of last week. Has had that frequency for at least the last 30 years, IIRC. Put them on the map and became the
52 LGAtoIND: Looks like DEN and MSY are the big winners, while BWI, LAX, and PHL seem to be losers. Does anyone know why BWI service is being reduced? Would IAD ha
53 DIA: DEN now has 16 nonstop-routes with WN...not bad. How many flights per day do they have in/out of DEN? Agreed.
54 Piercey: I fly this route 1-3 times a year, this sucks.... I also saw the minus 1 BWI, but is there anything else with CLE? piercey in CLE
55 CO777DAL: Add to that CO does about 16 flights a day from DAL-IAH (highest frequency in their system) and 12 DFW-IAH and AA also flies a number of flights DFW-
57 ShannoninAMA: oh, and just becasue AMA finally got DEN doesnt mean its the end of my rants... DL for SLC and ATL will still rage on Good to hear that MSY is getting
58 Alias1024: They should if they can, I'm questioning their ability to do so in markets where both ends are hubs and have large frequent flier bases for the compe
59 ConcordeBoy: Steve, how many did they op pre-K? Still less frequency and seats now than then. Not new, just resumed. Interesting. It's my understanding that WN ha
60 Tom in NO: 6..... 642 seats daily in either direction pre-K, vs 511 daily once WN resumes service..... negotiation ploys, no doubt Tom at MSY
63 Bluejackets: Yeah, you know there was some talk in another thread that Southwest maybe looking at DAY to help take on Skybus, but this news at least quells that t
64 SWACLE: Nothing else for CLE...down from 20 to 18. We now have 7x MDW, 4x BWI, 2x STL, BNA, and MCO, and 1x LAS. Don WN/CLE
65 Vega: At least they're not cutting PIT. They must be very satisfied with the 53% PIT-PHL share (532/day/round trip average) - that's approximately 266 daily
66 SHUPirate1: I have to admit, I myself am surprised that ISP is losing six flights...what does this bring MacArthur down to? And didn't they just build a new facil
67 BN727flyr: And it's about #&$@ time, dontcha think??
68 Catdaddy63: Nice to see no changes listed for TUL. I'm hoping that service stays consistent as the Wright Amendment restrictions are lifted over the next few year
69 Tockeyhockey: the "portfolio" is interesting to me. they can get my business by adding wifi and electrical outlets, assigned seating, and code sharing with internat
70 LTBEWR: One change/reduction was as to the transcons out of PHL, BWI and so on. Probably most transcon customers can and will choose other airlines, or they c
71 ABQ747: I wonder how UA and F9 are going to respond to this. They better not cut flights.
72 Cactus742: Unlike those intra-California routes, the other airlines flying it have hubs (F9 and UA at DEN, AS at SEA). Therefore there are probably many loyal f
73 SANFan: BTW, nice job, SHUP'; I assume cities not listed are "0" net change in # of departures. (This is the kind of thing I do but haven't had a chance yet;
74 SJCRRPAX: I think the only thing they will do is eleminate some "Fun Fares", and try to land contracts with large business by offering "fun fares" in bulk to l
75 Lexy: Not bad for BNA considering they have cut a few in the past from here. Too bad it's another flight to freaking Chicago though. UGH! The increased freq
76 Mariner: Why not? There's suddenly a lot of additional capacity on the route. mariner
77 RoseFlyer: Do you know if that means they will receive 34 737-700s and retire 15 or could those extra planes be 735s or 733s? It would be interesting to see WN
78 Acey: How much capacity do they have to expand? Nothing here is a suprise, they knew it was coming.
79 OPNLguy: I don't know. The OP said back in reply #12 that 9 aircraft were due to come off leases in the 4th quarter of 2007, and the inference was that those
80 ShannoninAMA: Holy crap! its happened i think! Heres the excerpt from the local paper "Southwest Airlines, the Texas Panhandle's busiest passenger air carrier, ann
81 Lexy: I'm not too sure and anything I said would mostly be just opinion in the first place. I think F9 has around 4 flights a day to Denver from here and t
82 WestWing: From the last proxy statement the numbers were... "Southwest operated a total of 481 Boeing 737 aircraft as of December 31, 2006, of which 84 and 9 w
83 Tornado82: So losing a ton of schedule flexibility is a good thing?
84 ABQ747: I'd rather not see any flights cut. I just hope ABQ can support all these additional flights.
85 Jhooper: Where else would Southwest have to start expanding besides the transoceanic arena? They'll soon outgrow the business model that's made them so success
86 ShannoninAMA: Well, to be honest, They always have charged rediculously high fares. Instead of doing AMA-DEN on Great lakes, most people had been forced to do AMA-
87 Acey: I'd imagine they come to Canada or fly to Mexico before they go overseas...
88 Alias1024: I think ABQ can fill the seats to DEN as long as prices come down a little. What would be funny is if F9 swapped the RJs for Lynx and used the econom
89 RwSEA: That's what they were threatening, but ovbiously they didn't follow through - SEA is just too profitable to ignore. There hasn't been any news about
90 OPNLguy: 93 of 388 is 23.9%--I was close based on the year-end 2006 numbers....
91 Mariner: That's a lot of additional seats coming in. Maybe they can all get decent loads - but can they make any money doing it? mariner
92 Ckfred: It was either Mike Boyd or Ray Neidl that, last year, pointed out that for WN to maintain its growth in revenue and profit, it had to keep increasing
93 VictorKilo: I'm wondering if the DEN-AMA flights are a preemptive move to keep Frontier from starting Lynx service to AMA. I'm wondering if the draw-down of PHX f
94 WestWing: Actually you were closer than that - correct calculation for yr end 2006 should be 93/481 which is 19.3%. After today's delivery of ship 281 (with sh
95 ShannoninAMA: I had thought of that too, but am wondering.......if they were serious about starting AMA, why hadnt they struck earlier? All theyve had that involve
96 Jeffinbwi: I think the reason for AMA DEN is we needed a better route from DAL to DEN. I recently worked a flight from DAL to AMA and LAS, we had close to 80 pe
97 AirFrnt: Those routes are all intra-california, and are not necessarily good for predicting other behavior. From Southwest's call, they are expecting record r
98 FLYGUY767: The quoted text I responded to was in regards to non hub flying with WN.. Thus the examples I provided.. -JD
99 Davidlc3: So let me get this straight - they are on the verge of not making as much money, are looking at deferring a/c, etc. and they are putting their extra
100 LoneStarMike: Southwest mentioned on their blog that the DEN-AMA flights as well as the DEN-OKC flights would continue as one-stops into DAL.
101 AirFrnt: And what I am saying is that the examples are not necessarily good. Two other things. Southwest hopes to be the launch customer on the 737 replacemen
102 Searpqx: AS has proven to be a very effective competitor against WN, one of the few that has held their own in almost all head-to-head contests. Up until now
103 AirFrnt: Listening to the conference call, it sure sounds like WN might make a play for F9. They are explictly talking about markets that F9 is already in (Mex
104 Tornado82: How many Airbus jets does Frontier have right now? WN could probably replace that fleet just by holding off on any 733/5 retirements for an extra yea
105 OPNLguy: Given the very topic of this thread, I don't personally think an acquisition of Frontier is going to happen, not to mention for other reasons.
106 SANFan: I feel exactly the same way about your first sentence, Rw'. WN has held back as much as possible but some opportunities from SEA just couldn't be ign
107 FLYGUY767: It was great to see WN re-enter the SFO-SAN market, it was a huge sucker punch to United Airlines that will definitely drive down yields in an otherw
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