Mk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6224 times:
Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 7): This schedule means 14 hrs on the tarmac plus no connections on the arrival at BOM
I guess the flight is meant for O&D traffic. I am not sure though but the schedule definitely would only work for such pax.
Even i fail to understand as to why is there no afternoon arrivals at BOM and DEL for AI flights from Europe and N. America. Besides, are any slots even available in these airports during the peak times of 9pm-3am?
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15813 posts, RR: 50 Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5900 times:
Quoting Soups (Reply 3): 14hours sitting on tarmac, waste of money!
Maybe AI's planning directive is to mimick the American carriers flying the route, but it is a decent schedule and you do get connections on the BOM side. Or maybe AI knows that India bound passengers don't want to leave earlier in the day.
Why not have a late morning departure out of JFK? It would avoid the mess of late afternoon and evening departures at JFK. It would also enable connections at the Bombay side with an arrival at lunch time. I don't get it.
Cslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 813 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5524 times:
Its looks like DL is going to lose its monopoly on NYC-BOM nonstop service. I wonder how this extra nonstop will affect yields of DL and the "connection required" competitors.
A 2h 30m turn at BOM looks OK but what is the reasoning behind a 14h 20m turn at JFK. Are parking fees at BOM more expensive than JFK? It looks like that if AI 0140 is late arriving into JFK that AI 0141 will likely be late too.
I'm guessing that India a market where business customers love nightime departures for intercontinental flight, just like South Africa and South America.
Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3086 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5281 times:
Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 15): Its looks like DL is going to lose its monopoly on NYC-BOM nonstop service. I wonder how this extra nonstop will affect yields of DL and the "connection required" competitors.
It's going to loose it 2 times over once with AI in August, and then again with CO starting in October. This will probably have a marginal impact on the one-stop carriers, as they offer non-stops to many other cities in the USA. And except on the specific BOM-NYC market - it would still be a one-stop flight.
That being said, the one-stop carriers will definitely see a decline on demand for the BOM-NYC sector - as I imagine most folks would prefer to avoid the delays introduced by a stop in the middle.
BCA2005 From India, joined Sep 2005, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5118 times:
Quoting Gojetset (Reply 17): Anyone have any idea on the type of product being offered onboard the new aircraft?
From the AI website:
Air India is pleased to announce the introduction of new daily non-stop flights between Mumbai and New York (JFK) effective 1st August 2007 with brand new, state-of-the-art Boeing 777-200LR aircraft.
Some of the salient features of these premium flights include:
Non-Stop ‘First Class’ Experience
With the introduction of these flights, Air India will be the first and only airline to offer its guests a First Class non-stop experience on this sector.
Reduced travel times
The new flights will significantly reduce travel times between Mumbai and the United States, reducing the flight duration by at least two hours in each direction when compared to other airlines' one-stop service.
Convenient Departures and Arrivals
Daily departure from Mumbai at 0045 local time, with arrival into JFK at 0710 local time on the same day. On the way back, daily departure from JFK at 2130 local time, with arrival into Mumbai at 2215 local time the following day.
The new aircraft have been configured with 8 seats in First Class, 35 seats in Business Class and 195 seats in Economy Class.
The First Class will offer 23 inches wide seats with 80 inch seat pitch, designed for privacy and is a cabin in itself. These seats translate into fully horizontal/lie flat 31 inch wide beds at the touch of a button.
Business class features 19.5 inches wide seats having a large backshell and a privacy divider between seats. These too translate into 26.5 inch wide flat beds. Seat Pitch 76 inch
The Economy class features 18 inches wide seats with a 6 inch recline and a legrest in front. Seat Pitch 34 inch
A tethered handset for operation of IFE along with PC power, USB and RJU are integrated into each seat.
Advanced In-flight Entertainment
The in-flight entertainment (IFE) system on the aircraft is capable of AVOD (Audio Video on Demand). LCD monitors are installed in each seat.
Sumptuous Food & Drink
Savor our hospitality with sumptuous and nutritious meals, specially designed in co-ordiantion with world renowned chefs. On offer is a wide range of tantalizing appetizers, extravagant main courses and exotic desserts. Guests will be served a fine selection of wines and spirits.
First and Business class guests will be offered free pick up and drop service to and from the Mumbai and JFK airports on arrival and departure.
Double Mileage Points*
Members of our Frequent Flier program will receive double mileage points on these flights.
*valid for travel upto 31st Oct ‘07
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26951 posts, RR: 83 Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4892 times:
Quoting Cricket (Reply 2): This is what PP had announced the day that he showcased the new livery. The first 777-237LR gets delivered to DEL within the next ten-twelve days. Of course, I'll be there...
Do we know which of the three AI 77Ls now at PAE will be the one first painted in the new livery and deployed on this route?