LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8302 times:
A thread on airliners.net is reporting the following:
Starting 1st August Air India will operate a direct daily flight to JFK from BOM in tandem with the already existing AI flights via LHR.
AI 141 BOM - JFK 0045 0710 B77L 15.55
AI 140 JFK - BOM 2130 2215 B77L 15.15
Cricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2943 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8124 times:
This is what PP had announced the day that he showcased the new livery. The first 777-237LR gets delivered to DEL within the next ten-twelve days.
Of course, I'll be there...
Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 1): Rather a long ground time for the 77L.
AA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2271 posts, RR: 25 Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7886 times:
Quoting Soups (Reply 3): 14hours sitting on tarmac, waste of money! will the same crew operate the return flight?
If they do please don't wonder why they are tired,not cracking a smile, or un kept.
I love it when I get off a JFK-NRT flight and a passenger asks if I turn around and come right back.
Mk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7666 times:
So will we see DEL-IAD n0n-stop being announced from Sep 1st...wishful thinking....but its time that IAD sees a non-stop from the DC metro area to Indian destinations.
Mk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6224 times:
Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 7): This schedule means 14 hrs on the tarmac plus no connections on the arrival at BOM
I guess the flight is meant for O&D traffic. I am not sure though but the schedule definitely would only work for such pax.
Even i fail to understand as to why is there no afternoon arrivals at BOM and DEL for AI flights from Europe and N. America. Besides, are any slots even available in these airports during the peak times of 9pm-3am?
Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3086 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5930 times:
I did a search for some random dates (Sept 25 BOM-NYC Oct 3 NYC-BOM) and came up with the following fares incl all taxes (outbound time/return time in hours):
41830 EY (19h/18h)
42039 SU (20h/25h)
45621 NW (21h/20h)
47033 LX (21h/18h)
47182 DL (16h/15h) <- Non stop
49885 AI (19h/17h)
....
67585 AI (16h/15h) <- Non stop
Wow! AI seems to be pricing themselves rather high on this sector.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15813 posts, RR: 50 Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5900 times:
Quoting Soups (Reply 3): 14hours sitting on tarmac, waste of money!
Maybe AI's planning directive is to mimick the American carriers flying the route, but it is a decent schedule and you do get connections on the BOM side. Or maybe AI knows that India bound passengers don't want to leave earlier in the day.
Why not have a late morning departure out of JFK? It would avoid the mess of late afternoon and evening departures at JFK. It would also enable connections at the Bombay side with an arrival at lunch time. I don't get it.
Cslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 813 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5524 times:
Its looks like DL is going to lose its monopoly on NYC-BOM nonstop service. I wonder how this extra nonstop will affect yields of DL and the "connection required" competitors.
A 2h 30m turn at BOM looks OK but what is the reasoning behind a 14h 20m turn at JFK. Are parking fees at BOM more expensive than JFK? It looks like that if AI 0140 is late arriving into JFK that AI 0141 will likely be late too.
I'm guessing that India a market where business customers love nightime departures for intercontinental flight, just like South Africa and South America.
Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3086 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5281 times:
Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 15): Its looks like DL is going to lose its monopoly on NYC-BOM nonstop service. I wonder how this extra nonstop will affect yields of DL and the "connection required" competitors.
It's going to loose it 2 times over once with AI in August, and then again with CO starting in October. This will probably have a marginal impact on the one-stop carriers, as they offer non-stops to many other cities in the USA. And except on the specific BOM-NYC market - it would still be a one-stop flight.
That being said, the one-stop carriers will definitely see a decline on demand for the BOM-NYC sector - as I imagine most folks would prefer to avoid the delays introduced by a stop in the middle.
Gojetset From United States of America, joined May 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5257 times:
Anyone have any idea on the type of product being offered onboard the new aircraft?
hopefully it will be good, especially after seeing Jet Airway's new product
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4595 posts, RR: 25 Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5215 times:
Quoting Gojetset (Reply 17): Anyone have any idea on the type of product being offered onboard the new aircraft?
hopefully it will be good, especially after seeing Jet Airway's new product
Well, unfortunately, the J class configuration on AI will remain at 2-3-2...both DL and CO are/will be offering 2-2-2 on their BOM-NYC 777s.
BCA2005 From India, joined Sep 2005, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5118 times:
Quoting Gojetset (Reply 17): Anyone have any idea on the type of product being offered onboard the new aircraft?
From the AI website:
Air India is pleased to announce the introduction of new daily non-stop flights between Mumbai and New York (JFK) effective 1st August 2007 with brand new, state-of-the-art Boeing 777-200LR aircraft.
Some of the salient features of these premium flights include:
Non-Stop ‘First Class’ Experience
With the introduction of these flights, Air India will be the first and only airline to offer its guests a First Class non-stop experience on this sector.
Reduced travel times
The new flights will significantly reduce travel times between Mumbai and the United States, reducing the flight duration by at least two hours in each direction when compared to other airlines' one-stop service.
Convenient Departures and Arrivals
Daily departure from Mumbai at 0045 local time, with arrival into JFK at 0710 local time on the same day. On the way back, daily departure from JFK at 2130 local time, with arrival into Mumbai at 2215 local time the following day.
Comfortable Seats
The new aircraft have been configured with 8 seats in First Class, 35 seats in Business Class and 195 seats in Economy Class.
The First Class will offer 23 inches wide seats with 80 inch seat pitch, designed for privacy and is a cabin in itself. These seats translate into fully horizontal/lie flat 31 inch wide beds at the touch of a button.
Business class features 19.5 inches wide seats having a large backshell and a privacy divider between seats. These too translate into 26.5 inch wide flat beds. Seat Pitch 76 inch
The Economy class features 18 inches wide seats with a 6 inch recline and a legrest in front. Seat Pitch 34 inch
A tethered handset for operation of IFE along with PC power, USB and RJU are integrated into each seat.
Advanced In-flight Entertainment
The in-flight entertainment (IFE) system on the aircraft is capable of AVOD (Audio Video on Demand). LCD monitors are installed in each seat.
Sumptuous Food & Drink
Savor our hospitality with sumptuous and nutritious meals, specially designed in co-ordiantion with world renowned chefs. On offer is a wide range of tantalizing appetizers, extravagant main courses and exotic desserts. Guests will be served a fine selection of wines and spirits.
Limo Service
First and Business class guests will be offered free pick up and drop service to and from the Mumbai and JFK airports on arrival and departure.
Double Mileage Points*
Members of our Frequent Flier program will receive double mileage points on these flights.
*valid for travel upto 31st Oct ‘07
Gojetset From United States of America, joined May 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4908 times:
Wow thats a pretty extensive list...
hopefully it will stay consistent, and our fellow indians keep it clean (no pan parag in the aisle ways, haha)
anyone have any idea on what the new seats look like?
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26951 posts, RR: 83 Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4892 times:
Quoting Cricket (Reply 2): This is what PP had announced the day that he showcased the new livery. The first 777-237LR gets delivered to DEL within the next ten-twelve days. Of course, I'll be there...
Do we know which of the three AI 77Ls now at PAE will be the one first painted in the new livery and deployed on this route?
Boeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1259 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4527 times:
Quoting Soups (Reply 3): 14hours sitting on tarmac, waste of money! will the same crew operate the return flight?
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4383 times:
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