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Frontier Applies For MKE-CUN  
User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4247 times:
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As in the title, Frontier has applied to the DOT for MKE-CUN:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/p101/475092.pdf

Service to start Decenver 15, 3 x weekly in season, Saturday out of season.

mariner


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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4157 times:

Awesome news! Looks like they are trying to tap the ever busy MKE winter travel season.

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 1):
Awesome news! Looks like they are trying to tap the ever busy MKE winter travel season

Its official, at Cancun Frontier holds veto power. How many F9 routes is that to CUN??


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 2):
How many F9 routes is that to CUN??

8 now.

SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.


User currently offlineKingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1297 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4024 times:
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http://www.frontierairlines.com/frontier/flight-info/route-map.do

Impressive.

Happy Birthday Frontier!



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12416 posts, RR: 100
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3889 times:
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Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 3):
8 now.

SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.

Wow!  wideeyed 

F9 has done a great job of securing Mexican routes.

I'm amazed at their route planning. Well done.

Lightsaber



I've posted how many times?!?
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 3):
SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.

Won't be long before we see most of these to Cabo


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3763 times:

F9 shouldn't have any trouble making this flight work.

Having said that, this is an interesting move. Some uncertainty surrounds MKE's future right now, and many think that FL would not be so warmly welcomed there. Perhaps a subtle (and not unexpected) expansion is a subtle way of F9 sticking its neck out a bit lest a much larger opportunity present itself.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

Are they going to do another 'Send Flip to Mexico' type campaign for this? That would be sweet!


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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3710 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
F9 shouldn't have any trouble making this flight work.

Having said that, this is an interesting move. Some uncertainty surrounds MKE's future right now, and many think that FL would not be so warmly welcomed there. Perhaps a subtle (and not unexpected) expansion is a subtle way of F9 sticking its neck out a bit lest a much larger opportunity present itself.

The good thing is that FL has nothing flying into Mexico.



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User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3654 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 3):
SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.

Which one of those airport that has high load factors to CUN? I am sure it is DEN or SAN. I am not sure how many passengers use IND-CUN because we also has NW offered n/s between IND-CUN too so bascially passengers make choice either Frontier or NW. I am surprised that Frontier add more city for n/s to CUN. I am wonder if it is good business decission or not?


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1999 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 10):
am not sure how many passengers use IND-CUN

From what I've heard (and maybe Mariner or someone can confirm this), F9 has been very happy with the IND-CUN peformance. Personally, if I lived in IND, I'd take F9 over NW any day. Their service is far superior, and they are often less expensive.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3621 times:
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Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 10):
I am sure it is DEN or SAN.

DEN is surely good. The surprise is possibly SLC, which only drops below 90% load factor in the very slowest months of the year.

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 11):
F9 has been very happy with the IND-CUN peformance.

In season, yes. Out of season, it goes to Saturday only and then service is suspended for two months, as shown here, on Frontier's Mexican "list":

http://www.frontierairlines.com:80/f...tes-timetables/mexico-timetable.do

For reference, CUN service from STL and BNA is suspended for four months.

mariner



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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4522 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

Originally IND-CUN was supposed to be year round. Guess they figured those two months were pretty bad.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Hmmm well somehow I guess I must've missed this thread announcing the good news. Does anyone know if NW going to continue their weekly seasonal MKE-CUN service? I was surprised earlier this year that they still flew the route.


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User currently offlineORDZW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3293 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 10):
I am surprised that Frontier add more city for n/s to CUN. I am wonder if it is good business decission or not?

Absolutely! Frontier's Mexico service is, and always has been, a huge money-maker. During the winter storm in DEN last year, F9 was repositioning aircraft all over the country to keep the point-to-point CUN flights running!



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User currently offlineF9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 695 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 3):
8 now.

SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.

What about the MDW-CUN charter? I know that is not scheduled, and I didn't think MDW had international gates (they must pre-clear or something).

As for the MKE-CUN service being a shot at FL, I think the opposite is true. F9 and FL have a marketing agreement where their booking sites will refer to each other, and you can earn ff miles/credits on both airlines.

F9Fan


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7503 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 10):
IND-CUN because we also has NW offered n/s between IND-CUN too so bascially passengers make choice either Frontier or NW.

Well NW's loads are very full, all year around its going out typically oversold.

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 14):
Does anyone know if NW going to continue their weekly seasonal MKE-CUN service? I was surprised earlier this year that they still flew the route.

Most likely.



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User currently offlineDavidlc3 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

This is an incredibly smart move for F9. As of a couple years ago there were 2 - 3 757s a day in the winter from MKE - Anyplaceabove10degreesfarenheit...(should be a new city code for that!) In addition we would see a number of other charters.

Good move for Frontier.


User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1081 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

I wonder how long it'll be until they announce MEM-CUN?


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2998 times:
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Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 19):
I wonder how long it'll be until they announce MEM-CUN?

That'll be interesting.

NWA already flies MEM-CUN, and, after Frontier came to town, must have thought that Frontier would add a Mexican route.

So they applied for MEM-PVR. Can you say pre-emptive?

But I wonder if Frontier would do something else - MEM-MZT, perhaps? And it's still an open question as to whether they'll do anything Mexican from MEM.  Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineWolfpacker From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Has CUN upgraded their facilities? They seem to be getting a lot of new service across the board.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7503 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Quoting Wolfpacker (Reply 21):
Has CUN upgraded their facilities? They seem to be getting a lot of new service across the board.

They just opened a new terminal, not sure if F9 is there I know NW is.



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2888 times:

Might be a bit off topic, but does anyone know if USA3000 is going to be coming back to MKE? I flew them to PUJ a year ago and thought they were great. Its to bad they weren't around this past winter/spring.


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

Quoting F9fan (Reply 16):
What about the MDW-CUN charter? I know that is not scheduled, and I didn't think MDW had international gates (they must pre-clear or something).

It's still running, at least on Saturdays. A1, A2, and A3 at MDW are all FIS gates.



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25 N200WN : Ok, so what routes to Mexico have been dropped so far (permanently, not the season ones)? The only one I can remember is AUS-CUN.
26 Post contains images AirplaneBoy : F9 is indeed one of the tenants of the new terminal. Cheers
27 ClearedDirect : Speaking of F9 in MEM - I was always wondering how their MEM-MCO or MCO-MEM route was working out. If anything is a shot at NW it is that route.
28 AirTran737 : Who else has the route authority for CUN in MKE? NW has one, does anyone hold the other slot? Anyone care to speculate on the future of CUN in MKE? FL
29 Mariner : Frontier MEM-MCO goes to 2 x daily by Christmas. MEM-DEN goes to 3 x daily in November. MEM-LAS goes to daily service (from 2 x weekly) in September.
30 Cubsrule : ...and probably not of much interest to anyone else.
31 CitrusCritter : Didn't AirTran get approved for (and perhaps actually announce) either MCO-CUN or ATL-CUN before a hurricane did significant damage to CUN? I want to
32 Post contains links Mariner : Close, but not quite. Airtran was scheduled to start ATL-CUN and TPA-CUN. Delta was slated to start MCO-CUN (and SLC-CZM, LAX-CZM): http://atlanta.bi
33 Post contains links Mariner : For the record - MKE-CUN approved by the DOT: http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf101/476457_web.pdf mariner
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