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Frontier Applies For MKE-CUN  
User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25567 posts, RR: 86
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4460 times:
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As in the title, Frontier has applied to the DOT for MKE-CUN:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/p101/475092.pdf

Service to start Decenver 15, 3 x weekly in season, Saturday out of season.

mariner


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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

Awesome news! Looks like they are trying to tap the ever busy MKE winter travel season.

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4333 times:

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 1):
Awesome news! Looks like they are trying to tap the ever busy MKE winter travel season

Its official, at Cancun Frontier holds veto power. How many F9 routes is that to CUN??


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 2):
How many F9 routes is that to CUN??

8 now.

SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.


User currently offlineKingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1313 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

http://www.frontierairlines.com/frontier/flight-info/route-map.do

Impressive.

Happy Birthday Frontier!



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13441 posts, RR: 100
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4102 times:
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Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 3):
8 now.

SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.

Wow!  wideeyed 

F9 has done a great job of securing Mexican routes.

I'm amazed at their route planning. Well done.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 3):
SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.

Won't be long before we see most of these to Cabo


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23223 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3976 times:

F9 shouldn't have any trouble making this flight work.

Having said that, this is an interesting move. Some uncertainty surrounds MKE's future right now, and many think that FL would not be so warmly welcomed there. Perhaps a subtle (and not unexpected) expansion is a subtle way of F9 sticking its neck out a bit lest a much larger opportunity present itself.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3944 times:

Are they going to do another 'Send Flip to Mexico' type campaign for this? That would be sweet!


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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5116 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
F9 shouldn't have any trouble making this flight work.

Having said that, this is an interesting move. Some uncertainty surrounds MKE's future right now, and many think that FL would not be so warmly welcomed there. Perhaps a subtle (and not unexpected) expansion is a subtle way of F9 sticking its neck out a bit lest a much larger opportunity present itself.

The good thing is that FL has nothing flying into Mexico.



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User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3867 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 3):
SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.

Which one of those airport that has high load factors to CUN? I am sure it is DEN or SAN. I am not sure how many passengers use IND-CUN because we also has NW offered n/s between IND-CUN too so bascially passengers make choice either Frontier or NW. I am surprised that Frontier add more city for n/s to CUN. I am wonder if it is good business decission or not?


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 10):
am not sure how many passengers use IND-CUN

From what I've heard (and maybe Mariner or someone can confirm this), F9 has been very happy with the IND-CUN peformance. Personally, if I lived in IND, I'd take F9 over NW any day. Their service is far superior, and they are often less expensive.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25567 posts, RR: 86
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3834 times:
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Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 10):
I am sure it is DEN or SAN.

DEN is surely good. The surprise is possibly SLC, which only drops below 90% load factor in the very slowest months of the year.

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 11):
F9 has been very happy with the IND-CUN peformance.

In season, yes. Out of season, it goes to Saturday only and then service is suspended for two months, as shown here, on Frontier's Mexican "list":

http://www.frontierairlines.com:80/f...tes-timetables/mexico-timetable.do

For reference, CUN service from STL and BNA is suspended for four months.

mariner



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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4581 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3818 times:

Originally IND-CUN was supposed to be year round. Guess they figured those two months were pretty bad.


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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2462 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

Hmmm well somehow I guess I must've missed this thread announcing the good news. Does anyone know if NW going to continue their weekly seasonal MKE-CUN service? I was surprised earlier this year that they still flew the route.


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User currently offlineORDZW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 10):
I am surprised that Frontier add more city for n/s to CUN. I am wonder if it is good business decission or not?

Absolutely! Frontier's Mexico service is, and always has been, a huge money-maker. During the winter storm in DEN last year, F9 was repositioning aircraft all over the country to keep the point-to-point CUN flights running!



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User currently offlineF9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 700 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3436 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 3):
8 now.

SAN, SLC, DEN, MCI, STL, IND, and BNA. MKE makes 8.

What about the MDW-CUN charter? I know that is not scheduled, and I didn't think MDW had international gates (they must pre-clear or something).

As for the MKE-CUN service being a shot at FL, I think the opposite is true. F9 and FL have a marketing agreement where their booking sites will refer to each other, and you can earn ff miles/credits on both airlines.

F9Fan


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 10):
IND-CUN because we also has NW offered n/s between IND-CUN too so bascially passengers make choice either Frontier or NW.

Well NW's loads are very full, all year around its going out typically oversold.

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 14):
Does anyone know if NW going to continue their weekly seasonal MKE-CUN service? I was surprised earlier this year that they still flew the route.

Most likely.



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User currently offlineDavidlc3 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

This is an incredibly smart move for F9. As of a couple years ago there were 2 - 3 757s a day in the winter from MKE - Anyplaceabove10degreesfarenheit...(should be a new city code for that!) In addition we would see a number of other charters.

Good move for Frontier.


User currently offlineCitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1129 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

I wonder how long it'll be until they announce MEM-CUN?

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25567 posts, RR: 86
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3211 times:
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Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 19):
I wonder how long it'll be until they announce MEM-CUN?

That'll be interesting.

NWA already flies MEM-CUN, and, after Frontier came to town, must have thought that Frontier would add a Mexican route.

So they applied for MEM-PVR. Can you say pre-emptive?

But I wonder if Frontier would do something else - MEM-MZT, perhaps? And it's still an open question as to whether they'll do anything Mexican from MEM.  Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineWolfpacker From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

Has CUN upgraded their facilities? They seem to be getting a lot of new service across the board.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

Quoting Wolfpacker (Reply 21):
Has CUN upgraded their facilities? They seem to be getting a lot of new service across the board.

They just opened a new terminal, not sure if F9 is there I know NW is.



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2462 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Might be a bit off topic, but does anyone know if USA3000 is going to be coming back to MKE? I flew them to PUJ a year ago and thought they were great. Its to bad they weren't around this past winter/spring.


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23223 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3078 times:

Quoting F9fan (Reply 16):
What about the MDW-CUN charter? I know that is not scheduled, and I didn't think MDW had international gates (they must pre-clear or something).

It's still running, at least on Saturdays. A1, A2, and A3 at MDW are all FIS gates.



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25 N200WN : Ok, so what routes to Mexico have been dropped so far (permanently, not the season ones)? The only one I can remember is AUS-CUN.
26 Post contains images AirplaneBoy : F9 is indeed one of the tenants of the new terminal. Cheers
27 ClearedDirect : Speaking of F9 in MEM - I was always wondering how their MEM-MCO or MCO-MEM route was working out. If anything is a shot at NW it is that route.
28 AirTran737 : Who else has the route authority for CUN in MKE? NW has one, does anyone hold the other slot? Anyone care to speculate on the future of CUN in MKE? FL
29 Mariner : Frontier MEM-MCO goes to 2 x daily by Christmas. MEM-DEN goes to 3 x daily in November. MEM-LAS goes to daily service (from 2 x weekly) in September.
30 Cubsrule : ...and probably not of much interest to anyone else.
31 CitrusCritter : Didn't AirTran get approved for (and perhaps actually announce) either MCO-CUN or ATL-CUN before a hurricane did significant damage to CUN? I want to
32 Post contains links Mariner : Close, but not quite. Airtran was scheduled to start ATL-CUN and TPA-CUN. Delta was slated to start MCO-CUN (and SLC-CZM, LAX-CZM): http://atlanta.bi
33 Post contains links Mariner : For the record - MKE-CUN approved by the DOT: http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf101/476457_web.pdf mariner
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