ATLflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 746 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 11 months 4 days ago) and read 3331 times:
I always enjoy having a personal air vent above my seat and I have noticed almost all American carriers have these personal air vents on all flights. However, why do many of the best airlines like Singapore, Cathay, Ethiad, British Airways, Air France, Air New Zealand and Continental not have these personal air vents installed? It just doesn't seem to make sense that the "Top" airlines do not have them. They are always updating their product offerings yet they don't offer simple air vents to keep their passengers cooler? Why?
Also, I have never traveled on an airline without the personal air vents. Is the central cooling system stronger to make up for the fact that passengers do not have their own air vents?
Good to see Air Canada, Delta, Emirates, and I think Jet Airways do have them!
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8691 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3266 times:
Personally I love the individual vents. Many years ago I flew SYD-LAX in cattle car and the guy next tome was the type that only took a bath on the first of month - and we were flying at the end of the month. I turned that vent on full and kept it aimed on my face the entire flight. At times they can be really important on a flight.
The central systems are generally OK, but fail to take into consideration the personal preferences of individual pax. Men tend to want more cooling than women and thin people get cold faster than the more insulated ones. My guess is that it is cheaper to install and uses less fuel on longer flights.
Dl_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2098 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3231 times:
Boeing airplanes without the valves are already plumbed for them. All that is missing is a flexible hose (about 1-2') and the valves that you twist. Why DL has not added them to the planes without, I don't know.
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2936 times:
Quoting ATLflyer (Thread starter): why do many of the best airlines like Singapore, Cathay, Ethiad, British Airways, Air France, Air New Zealand and Continental not have these personal air vents installed?
CO certainly has personal air vents on all their aircraft except for the B76's and B77's, centralized ventilation on those. The B753's have personal vents but I can't remember what the B752's have......my guess, personal vents.
Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
OtnySASLHR From Spain, joined May 2007, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2806 times:
Just for your information the items to which you are referring are not " Personal Air Vents" but are called "Punkah Louvres". The term originates from "Punkah - the Indian name given to the hand operated fan to waft the air about in Colonial Houses of India, hence the term "Punkah Wallah" - person who operates the fan.
Par13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 8064 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2691 times:
Anyone thought about savings, can you lower the pressure in the lines if all those "personal vents" are not there, does this provide any savings whatsoever?
Airlines shutdown their one engine when taxing, AA uses less water in their tanks to save weight, so is this another attempt to lower cost / obtain savings, guess the technical minds should pitch in.
On another note, it is shocking to hear that lower tiers airlines are offering something that the upper tier does not. I'm certainley, it will be revealed in due course that this feature is a waste and not necessary.
Naritaflyer From Japan, joined Apr 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2677 times:
Quoting Par13del (Reply 14): On another note, it is shocking to hear that lower tiers airlines are offering something that the upper tier does not. I'm certainley, it will be revealed in due course that this feature is a waste and not necessary.
It is not shocking at all. Widebody aircraft do not have them for the reason Raffik mentioned, the ceiling is too high for most people to reach. Those vents are usually on narrow-body aircraft. since the "top-tier" carriers tend to have only widebody airplanes they don't have vents. It has nothing to do with saving money by not installing them.
JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2586 times:
I had one on an AA flyt an md80 and the darn thing was stuck I pulled on it twsited did everythng and my hand slipped and hit the ox2 panel which opened and had 4 air mask in them,, they were stareing right in my face but never fell out.. they were in the pannel door
Afay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2579 times:
Also, the IL-86 and IL-96 have the vents on the seatbacks. I also personally can't stand not having them and have been stuck on the ramp many times wishing they were there despite their germ-y reputation...