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Lufthansa New Routes-planned, Rumoured, Cancelled  
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4165 posts, RR: 36
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 18035 times:

Just trying to compose a list of what Lufthansa is preparing in terms of route/network changes:

Announced
FRA-MCO 5/7 A330-300
FRA-EZE 5/7 B747-400
FRA-EWR 6/7 BBJ

Rumoured
MUC-RLG (Rostock)
MUC-BLR (Bangalore)

Cancelled
MUC-BOD (Bordeaux)
MUC-SXB (Strassbourg)

Anyone able to provide some more info what is planned & going on?


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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 18006 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
Rumoured
MUC-RLG (Rostock)
MUC-BLR (Bangalore)

DUS-YYZ


User currently offlineLH506 From Ecuador, joined May 2007, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 17988 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
Anyone able to provide some more info what is planned & going on?

FRA-KHI-LHE-FRA

FRA-BOG-LIM-FRA



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User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 796 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 17959 times:

Heard a rumour that DUB-FRA is to be dropped


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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3171 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 17951 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
MUC-RLG (Rostock)

This has been a PSO-route, operated by OLT for the past years, and restricted for other entrants. Does the PSO expire soon, or has it already expired, or has there been a deal between LH and OLT?


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 17825 times:

The information about RLG is - AFAIK - based on slot applications with the German slot co-ordinator, which in all honesty can mean nothing at all. However, RLG airport has a new CEO, the former HHN marketing director, and at the recent annual airport press conference where once again staggering losses had to be announced, it was said that the airport desperately needs a link-up to an international hub. Obviously the OLT service is not seen as such a link as it is more or less just a P2P-service. One rumour making rounds is that Lufthansa could take over the MUC route and OLT instead operate a - long-rumoured - CPH service. We shall see.

User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4165 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 17806 times:

In addition the new RLG airport manager has indicated that she wants to try to get a RLG-FRA link as well.


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8580 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17677 times:
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Quoting Joost (Reply 4):
This has been a PSO-route,

pardon my ignorance , but what is a PSO route ?



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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17620 times:

Something like public service (comparable to EAS in the USA) because Rostock is a relative remote area in Germany and would otherwise have no essential air service. Basically the state pays for the service.

User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4801 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17600 times:

Quoting LH506 (Reply 2):
FRA-KHI-LHE-FRA

Im most interested in knowing the rumored details of this route...plz do keep me and all of us on A.Net updated on the progress being made by LH to return to Pakistan...thanks


User currently offlineLHBSL From Switzerland, joined Mar 2007, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17472 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
Rumoured

2 cents for DUS-MIA...


User currently offlineStevesdream69 From Italy, joined Feb 2007, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17415 times:

How 'bout MUC-MIA?
and how about giving a better balance to NYC connections from FRA & MUC?
Now they have 5 flights from FRA and only 1 (plus 1 Privat air full business) from MUC?


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3171 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 17405 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 7):
what is a PSO route ?

A Public Service Obligation. Like already mentioned, the state supports the airline(s) that operate the route, because it could not be operated without subsidies.

PSO's exist in many European countries, including Germany, Ireland, France, Ireland, Italy, Spain and Greece and are often subject to discussion.

The most common type of a PSO is that a governmental body (either national, either regional) issues a tender (maximum 3 years by EU law) for carriers to operate a certain route, with a certain capacity and a certain frequency; sometimes combined with a fare cap. All EU airlines then can make an offer to the governmental body to mention the amount of money they want to operate the service.

There are Open and Restricted PSO's. In a restricted PSO, when one airline has won the tender and operates the route, no other airlines are allowed to do so. The reason is that the tender-contenders can in theory offer a lower price, when they are sure they will not face any competition during the period. Open PSO's are routes that can be operated by all carriers, and they can all receive PSO money. There are some other variations, but this is getting a long story for the forum  Smile

The European Commission and Court spend a lot of time on PSO disputes, most notably in France and Italy. There are, for example, many Restricted PSO's between mainland Italy and Sardinia. Airlines like easyJet and Ryanair, that like to operate these routes, consider it as hidden state-aid to the carriers that operate the routes (Air One and Meridiana). There have been rulings on this: https://www.easyjet.com/EN/News/decision_to_limit_pso_abuse_in_italy.html



A slightly outdated but extensive list of PSO's in Europe can be found here: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/air_po...rnal_market/doc/pso_web_120507.pdf


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3171 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17347 times:

Quoting Stevesdream69 (Reply 11):
and how about giving a better balance to NYC connections from FRA & MUC?
Now they have 5 flights from FRA and only 1 (plus 1 Privat air full business) from MUC?

IIRC, LH will make a swap: MUC will get 2 daily 333/343 flights; FRA will get 4 daily widebodies and the BBJ.


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 17072 times:

Quoting LH506 (Reply 2):
FRA-BOG-LIM-FRA

Which of course won´t be flown that way, b/c BOG and LIM are not in the geographical position to do a triangle routing, no one from BOG would go down to lim (2.5hors) and then continue to FRA (11.5hrs), it would be simply stupid.

My guess is BOG-FRA and LIM-FRA separate.



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User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 796 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16955 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 14):
Which of course won´t be flown that way, b/c BOG and LIM are not in the geographical position to do a triangle routing, no one from BOG would go down to lim (2.5hors) and then continue to FRA (11.5hrs), it would be simply stupid.

My guess is BOG-FRA and LIM-FRA separate.

They could decide to add UIO or GYE onto the LIM flight. Am I not right in saying that LH once flew UIO-LIM-FRA?



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User currently offlineA350XWB From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16887 times:

Quoting Stevesdream69 (Reply 11):
and how about giving a better balance to NYC connections from FRA & MUC?
Now they have 5 flights from FRA and only 1 (plus 1 Privat air full business) from MUC?



Quoting Joost (Reply 13):
IIRC, LH will make a swap: MUC will get 2 daily 333/343 flights; FRA will get 4 daily widebodies and the BBJ.

MUC will indeed get 2 widebodys:

LH 410/1 MUC-EWR-MUC 333
LH 412/3 MUC-JFK-MUC 333

but from FRA they will only operate 3 widebodys and one BBJ:

LH 400/1 FRA-JFK-FRA 343
LH 402/3 FRA-EWR-FRA 343
LH 404/5 FRA-JFK-FRA 744
LH 484/5 FRA-EWR-FRA BBJ 6/7

[Edited 2007-07-06 17:36:21]

User currently offlineLH506 From Ecuador, joined May 2007, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16853 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
My guess is BOG-FRA and LIM-FRA separate.

You are right. Has to be FRA-BOG-LIM-BOG-FRA. There is also a smaller possibility of initial routing FRA-CCS-LIM-CCS-FRA. But LIM will in the beggining only have 1 stop service. That is at least what the rumour says.

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
They could decide to add UIO or GYE onto the LIM flight. Am I not right in saying that LH once flew UIO-LIM-FRA?

It use to be FRA-BOG-UIO (Mid 90s) and FRA-CCS-LIM also in the Mid 90s



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User currently offlineLHboyatDTW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16795 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
Announced

back in March/April MUC-BOM was announced


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 699 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16335 times:

Quoting EIRules (Reply 3):
Heard a rumour that DUB-FRA is to be dropped

I wonder why LH would consider cancelling such a route? Would there not be a big market for this route?



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16258 times:

With the introduction of FRA-EZE nonsotop, GRU will get a daily dedicated FRA-GRU B747, in addition to MUC-GRU and ZRH-GRU.

I am sure LH will announce something else in Brazil, possibly GIG comes into picture.

Rgs,


User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15801 times:

Yes i too have heard about the FRA-LHE-KHI or FRA-KHI-LHE begining from Octrober 1st.If this is true then it comes as a complete surprise since Pakistan,specially KHI has been completely abandoned by all European airlines including LH which left us nearly a decade ago.This is most interesting and is quite significant for aviation in Pakistan.

The LHE-KHI combination is currently being used by SQ also on their SIN-PAK flights but im not sure if this is the best idea for serving KHI atleast.I think the way to do KHI should be by extending one of their Gulf region flights from AUH or DXB or MCT.They can completely avoid having their crew staying over in KHI (which most airlines prefer) by picking up a new crew from say AUH which will do AUH-KHI-AUH.The last of the european airlines to serve KHI, SWISS (LX) also used that strategy via DXB.

But maybe the LHE-KHI combo might work.I certainly hope it prospers!


User currently offlineShane From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15788 times:

Quoting Matt (Reply 19):
I wonder why LH would consider cancelling such a route? Would there not be a big market for this route?

I can imagine MUC-DUB would work better. High tech businesses abound in the two cities. I remember last year doing MUC-DUB with a very inconvenient FRA connection. Unless I'm mistaken, only Aer Lingus make the trip nonstop today.


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15685 times:

6x weekly CRJ DUS-EDI slots have been applied for starting this winter. Not been cleared yet though.

User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 796 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15046 times:

Quoting Shane (Reply 22):
I can imagine MUC-DUB would work better. High tech businesses abound in the two cities. I remember last year doing MUC-DUB with a very inconvenient FRA connection. Unless I'm mistaken, only Aer Lingus make the trip nonstop today.

Yeah only EI fly to MUC from DUB. I would imagine the reason for LH considering pulling out of DUB-FRA is over capacity. There are 3 daily EI flights and even some StaerAlliance partners offer EI connections through FRA rather than LH ones (Im specifically talking SQ here). Then there are also the FR flights to Hahn. I know these are not directly in competition with LH on the DUB route but Im sure they are not helping their Y loads



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25 Wdleiser : GET PHX BACK ALREADY!
26 BlrBird : MUC-BOM - this was rumoured a while back.
27 ProPHX : Amen!! What is taking LH so long?
28 LHUSA : I think LH is waiting to see what's going on with US. US has expressed interest in flying PHX-FRA and I'm sure their recent attempt to purchase DL ma
29 EddieDude : I think many of us expect LH to, at some point, launch 4x weekly MUC-MEX with A343 aircraft. Any thought?
30 LH506 : I also read somewhere here on a.net that WDH and LAD might be included in the future. Does anybody know if there would be any frequencies available?
31 DALCA : PHC is currently cancelled because of runway renewal. There are currently no services from Europe to PHC. It is not yet known when it will open again.
32 Post contains images A342 : See here: Rumored, but not announced yet. But IMO it will happen sooner or later. I agree about LAD, but IIRC there's the issue of traffic rights. WD
33 HT : SW already flies between WDH and FRA and I suspect that there is enough traffic for two carriers fom FRA. Plus LT (now owned by rival AB) flies up to
34 A342 : IMO SW wouldn't really have a chance against LH, it might go back to one carrier. True, but LT earns its money with leisure pax, LH wants business. A
35 Post contains images LH506 : Different though with LAD. That could be a higher yield destination, due to the booming oil and mining industry.
36 Vega : Agree. Also, I'd bet LH starting a PHX route would reflect poorly on US's stature as the "home town airline". The problem with US is that they won't
37 Beechcraft : we´re still flying BOD. Rumours have it, it will end win winter... Denis
38 Fuffla : Are they still planning on a return to Australia? They have so many code-shares here is not funny, and there has been talk for a while that they will
39 Bongo : Any dates for this? This year? next? That would be perfect for me...that way I don´t have to do MIA-CDG-DUS on AF
40 LH506 : Rumoured for this winter (November)
41 LTU932 : The problem with LAD is that they may not get any traffic rights since it seems that the Angolan government is directly retaliating against the EU fo
42 HanginOut : What does PHC stand for? (The cursor doesn't show anything when you scroll onto it.)
43 LTU932 : Port Harcourt, Nigeria.
44 MAH4546 : A final decission on MIA-DUS will be made within a month, from what I hear. One rumour going around MIA that it will use a Munich-based aircraft, and
45 FraT : I havn't heard any of these rumors over here. As you say, there are so many Codeshares (SQ, NZ, OZ, TG, UA). There is no need for LH to go back in th
46 A342 : LOL, you should know better. Amadeus doesn't show any nonstop flights from November. BTW, how are the load factors and yields on the route?
47 Cricket : I thought that LH would start MUC-BOM before MUC-BLR. I think MUC-BLR will wait till the new BLR airport!
48 A342 : That's my opinion, too.
49 Beechcraft : I can only give subjective impression about loadfactors, but no matter which A/C is flying the route (CRJ 200, 700, or 900) they are almost always pr
50 KL577 : The airport was supposed to reopen in August. Then, given the recent number of kidnappings of expatriates in the region, the contractor suspended wor
51 Post contains links and images HT : I had to look that one up on http://gc.kls2.com/ , too ... This comes not too unexpectedly ... -HT
52 Lp0815 : Would be nice to see LH back in WDH. They used to fly there until sometime back with 340 LH 596/597 was the flight number pair for FRA-WDH-FRA
53 BestWestern : LH Irish sales manager announced last year that LH were planning MUC DUB. FRA DUB will not be cancelled, as LH are getting excellent quality feed on t
54 JoFMO : I would be chocked too if LH cancels FRA-DUB. Ireland is one of the most booming economies in Europe ('Keltic Tiger') and there are a lot of Irish ar
55 Johnnybgoode : nothing but a rumor. i think this one was tried by C9 but failed miserably. given the number of rumors and reports on this one, there must be truth t
56 MAH4546 : I agree, I'm not holding my breathe for it to happen, but the rumour for MIA-DUS has some truth, that much I know.
57 Post contains links Beaucaire : Kochi, Ahmedabad, Pune..are seemingly in consideration by LH following an article in Deccan herald here
58 BlrBird : All these routes will have to wait for new bilateral to happen as current one is maxed out!
59 LH506 : Another question for our LH experts. Any chances / rumours that KUL and MNL will be served non-stop in the future?
60 Soups : LH flew 5 weekly FRA-LOS-ACC and 2 weekly FRA-LOS-PHC, PHC was removed and ACC went daily
61 FlyinTLow : From what I have heard, rumor about to begin winter 2007/2008 with AB6. They have the capacity and the range! Cheers, Thilo
62 COEI2007 : EI to FRA is 2x daily. I'd heard LH was interested in DUB-MUC. FRA apparently does well for LH, due to connections
63 Vfw614 : C9 did not fail miserably, they simply did not get the PSO tender when it was up for renewal. Dauair, airBaltic and Cirrus all tendered for the route
64 Airportmanager : It would be great to see LH back to UIO!! i hope. Im the 90's they flew all sort of combinations FRA-CCS-UIO FRA-CCS-BOG-UIO FRA-BOG-UIO-LIM-La paz F
65 Nimish : Yes - the bilaterals are to be renegotiated, and the date for a date is "by end of July". Does LH have the fleet to start all these potential new rou
66 SailorOrion : Not all at once, but there will be quite some additions in the long-haul fleet in the future: 2007: 2 A346s from 2008: 5 A330s and 5 A346s from 2009:
67 KL577 : The routing was FRA-PHC-ABV
68 LH121GLA : LH - Please come back to Glasgow (FRA or MUC or both) ... there's very little in the way of direct Euro routes from GLA - and if they came back with a
69 Danny : Amadeus shows 3 daily FRA-DUB on LH in the winter and only 2 daily on EI which contradicts the rumour. Also LH introduced A321 on FRA-DUB this summer
70 Nimish : Thanks - good to know! And I guess they might start the new stations with a 3x/4x weekly schedule so 1 a/c can serve 2 new destinations.
71 TreeHillRavens : Yeah, i also would like to know if LH is interested in having a nonstop flight to KUL. May be with a daily 343 ?
72 Flying-Tiger : To make it a "crazy" idea: make it a FRA-KUL-PEN-FRA rotation on 4 days a week, and make it a FRA-KUL-MYY-KUL-FRA routing 3 times a week. Reason behi
73 HB-IWC : If and when LH were to decide to restart nonstop KUL operations, I would envisage that CGK would once again be tagged to the route. That said, anyone
74 JoFMO : I can't comment on LH's load factor BKK-KUL. But I reckon that KUL is a good cargo market. Malaysia is a big producer of electronic goods. And I also
75 SailorOrion : I'm not sure, but I don't see LH to start a whole lot of "new stations" in the near future. They might add one or two flights that have the hub on th
76 TreeHillRavens : Well said.
77 LH506 : In addition someone mentioned on another thread about LH, that they will convert 10 out of their 14 A300s for medium-/longhaul. They will have the ne
78 FlyinTLow : Letting the A300s make Transatlantic runs would mean having them ETOPS certified again (they once were, as far as I know they aren't anymore). That wo
79 Post contains links HT : DUS-JFK 3258 nm HAM-IAD 3505 nm Only a few of the 14 A306 in LH's service are shown as the longer-range "R" model. http://www.planespotters.net/Produ
80 Viscount724 : LH used the A300-600 on a few transatlantic routes years ago, probably in the early to mid 1990s. I recall they were used FRA-YUL and to at least one
81 Johnnybgoode : mark my words: not gonna happen. IIRC, they will indeed convert all A300 with the current business class. however, this doesn't necessarily mean all
82 Post contains images EYFlyer88 : If this is true, it would make sense. I dont remember what A/C LH used when they used to fly to KHI.. but for most airlines they sent smaller widebod
83 EYFlyer88 : Actually, Wikipedia says a start up for KHI/LHE in Fall 07, but they also said that AF would re-start SYD, and Austrian flies to KHI apparantly (NOT)
84 KHI747 : LH used to fly the A313 and the AB6 to KHI but i think right before they axed the route,all flights had become A300-600.When i flew LH from KHI in 199
85 PADSpot : ETOPS 180 certification was available for AB6s since the late 80s. Although the only destinations LH needed an ETOPS 120 certificate were US East Coa
86 HT : It is not "wikipedia" who states this but an author, who needs no proof for what he/she is writing. Unless someone changes / corrects the entry in wi
87 LTU932 : This makes me wonder about the AB6 HF leased from LH (D-AIAX, now back with LH) used on some flights to Africa on behalf of LX, prior to LX getting t
88 DABVF : D-AIAX was operated on LX flights from ZRH to Nairobi/Dar Es Salaam and Malabo/Douala.
89 PADSpot : AFAIR there are no ETOPS180 no go areas over Africa and A330 and A300 are both technically certified for ETOPS180? I can't see any other reason than
90 PADSpot : I don't know any, I am sorry. But at times you can see that the GCM-Maps are missing major airports, which definetely could service for a diversion.
91 HT : This was a short- to mid-term lease prior to delivery of new suitable a/c to LX. From what have been aired, nobody (neither LX nor their pax) were ha
92 PADSpot : AFAIK the A300 still had their LH 280 seat all-eco seating. It's not very hard for the competition to beat that.
93 LTU932 : So basically, Africa can still be safely flown with Transatlantic ETOPS then (ETOPS 120 or 137), right? Must be the capacity. They needed the interim
94 PADSpot : Yes. And even if there are small restricted patches, they are so small you could easily circumfly them. You're sure you don't mean SN? They and AF we
95 LTU932 : I know SN also had a very comprehensive Africa network before its bankruptcy and its successor took over a few of those routes, but I heard somewhere
96 Post contains links Flying-Tiger : Seems that we have one network change for 2008: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070711/asp/calcutta/story_8040476.asp
97 PADSpot : Sounds like great news to me, but isn't the name "Calcutta" obsololete since when 2001 when they changed the name to Kolkata? Can all destinations in
98 Johnnybgoode : watch out for a new destination in Eastern Europe...
99 Post contains images Nimish : From the GC mapper: It seems like if the 333 can do FRA-CCU, there's no reason it could not do the other planned cities as well.
100 DABVF : Don't forget: The A330-300 and most of the A340-300 have the same cabin layout (F8, C48, Y165).
101 Post contains images SailorOrion : MOST of the A340-300s have that layout. There are some with a higher seat count (8/36/192 and 0/44/222 or something) SailorOrion
102 LH506 : New service to Sibiu announced "Lufthansa to launch new route to Sibiu (Hermannstadt) Third direct Lufthansa service from Munich to Romania 13.07.07
103 Post contains images A342 : Yay, you made my day! Finally they're flying to my hometown!
104 Post contains images JoFMO : Our friends from the Austria might declare war now...
105 ETStar : Looks like the A300 is to be used again on the Khartoum/Addis Ababa run ... How long before this aircraft is gone?
106 PADSpot : Long ... 5 years mininum. It's the absolute cash cow. Its financially old, its large, its effcient and it can carry huge amounts of cargo. Whenever I
107 Post contains images Flying-Tiger : ... let´s now just have the A300-600R re-enginged with the GENx or the Trent 1000 and you´ll have a happy A300-600R operator which will use its A30
108 SailorOrion : Unless someone comes up with a reasonable replacement, VERY long. SailorOrion
109 Post contains images LH498 : How about Airbus offering a complete upgrade a la MD-10? Perhaps AA and LH might be interested...
110 AF086 : The rumours vanished again. I have my doubts of LH's return to GIG any time soon.
111 Flying-Tiger : Certainly attractive for current A300 and maybe even A310 operators, but given the fact that Airbus is short on engineering capacities at the moment
112 Adicool : seriously, can the yields be really that much higher for destination such as Sibiu (I know, bad example) or ASB than for cities like GIG, BOG, LIM, SC
113 PADSpot : At least most of the LH air frames will reach the end of their lifetime due to cycles from 2012 on. Reengining is not really a viable option. Let's n
114 LTU932 : IMO it would probably be much cheaper and make more sense for LH to buy either 783s or the A333s with downrated engines for shorter range flights, th
115 Vfw614 : Obviously it has not been mentioned so far in this thread, so here we go: Lufthansa has been allocated slots for three week-daily flights between TXL
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Routes Of Lufthansa New Business posted Fri May 13 2005 04:37:37 by Daron4000
Probable New Lufthansa/Privatair Routes posted Fri Feb 21 2003 08:30:42 by Johnnybgoode
EasyJet`s New Routes From/to Berlin/SXF posted Mon Jun 25 2007 13:50:30 by Delta777Jet
Colombia: New Routes. LON/PAR/FRA Included posted Sat Jun 16 2007 16:47:38 by Summa767
Ryanair: 13 New Routes From Stockholm (incl. BSL) posted Thu Jun 14 2007 09:58:33 by Teahan
FR Open 8 New Routes From SNN posted Thu May 31 2007 14:41:21 by VivaGunners
AA/AA Eagle Launch Few New Routes posted Tue May 29 2007 20:48:24 by Jimyvr
AC New Routes From YUL posted Sun May 20 2007 18:40:08 by MarkChief