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Airbus' June Update  
User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Airbus has updated their order sheet for June and added an astonishing 470 new orders, bringing the total amount of orders for 2007 to 680 (atleast 13 cancellations should be taken of that number), including nearly 300 widebodies. Airbus has still commitments for more then 550 aircraft including more then 220 widebodies (the largest commitments amongst them being the commitment from US Airways and an order for 50 A32s from Air One).

Airbus also delivered 40 aircraft in June of which 10 widebodies, bringing the total deliveries for this year to 231, well on her way to claim the title of "the largest manufacturer of civil aircraft seating more then 100 pax" for another year.

http://www.airbus.com/en/corporate/orders_and_deliveries/


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User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

Thanks Manni
Looks like it could be the best year ever for Airbus.
Maybe it already is because of all the wide bodies?


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

Quoting Chiad (Reply 1):
Thanks Manni

My pleasure. Big grin

Quoting Chiad (Reply 1):
Maybe it already is because of all the wide bodies?

It certainly already is the best year ever for Airbus on the widebody front. Airbus sold about 50% more widebodies already this year compared to their best year ever, 2005.


BTW. Airbus' backlog is now 2925 aircraft big, including 757 widebodies, 426 of these are A330/340 orders.



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2601 times:

Quoting Manni (Thread starter):
Airbus has still commitments for more then 550 aircraft including more then 220 widebodies

Correction: The number of commitments stand at 538 according to the numbers I collected, 190 of them are for widebodies. In the previous total I had incuded 35 A350XWB's that have already been counted for (TAM 10, US 20 and IT 5). There are also 41 firm orders for A350s left on the books that still need to be converted.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6937 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2574 times:

Some curiosities...

This is the first breakdown (at least that I've seen) of the Aeroflot order: 18 x A350-800 and 4 x A350-900. Interesting.

The Etihad order for A330s was reported as 3 x A330F and 5 x A332. It turns out they've ordered one fewer A332 but one - and only one - A333! What's going on here? Might this be a single VIP configured plane ordered by and operated by EY on behalf of some local bigwig? If EY plan a mixed fleet of A332s and A33s (a la QR), why order just one?


User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2532 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
If EY plan a mixed fleet of A332s and A33s (a la QR), why order just one?

Good observation. Could be a mistake in the reporting as well.
Maybe EY will order more A333s together with a A350 order later on?

An unbelivable month for Airbus!!!

[Edited 2007-07-07 06:45:23]


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6937 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2483 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
If EY plan a mixed fleet of A332s and A33s (a la QR)

Typo. Obviously, I meant A332s and A333s. Sorry.

One other point from the spreadsheet and that's a total of 786 firm orders for the A330. It seems no time ago that we were celebrating the 500th A330 sale and speculating whether the programme might reach 700. It now looks like being closer to 1,000!

And guess what - The EK order for A346s has disappeared at last!


User currently offlinePygmalion From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 966 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

from the Airbus Orders page link, net from beginning of year 2007:

Narrow bodies (A320 series) Net new orders: 391
Wide Bodies (A33x,A34x,A35x) Net new orders: 233
A380 Net new orders: -1

Total net orders for 2007: 623 aircraft.

Though not as impressive as the 680 gross new orders... not a bad half year for Airbus. It appears most of the difference is the result of A350 conversions to A350XWB... i.e. not a net increase in order quantity.


User currently offlineAminobwana From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

In the URL indicated by the thread starter it says:

Quote:
Among the month's major acquisitions were Qatar Airways' order for three A380s and 80 A350 XWBs (composed of 20 A350-800 XWBs, 40 A350-900 XWBs and 20 A350-1000 XWBs), Singapore Airlines¡¯ booking for 20 A350-900 XWBs, the GECAS order for 14 A319s and 46 A320s, and Jazeera Airways' booking for 30 A320s.

As seen, the Aeroflot 22 350XWB order is not mentioned in this major order list, where several also sveral smaller ones were reported

Nevertheless, in the incorpurated June Spread the 22 frames appear as a firm order, as stated by PM:
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Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Some curiosities...

This is the first breakdown (at least that I've seen) of the Aeroflot order: 18 x A350-800 and 4 x A350-900. Interesting

Somebody has an explanation ??

aminobwna


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Some curiosities...

There also appears to be an order for an A340-500 VIP, booked on july 18th. The same customer also ordered an A320. Both, had not been previously announced.

Quoting Pygmalion (Reply 7):
It appears most of the difference is the result of A350 conversions to A350XWB... i.e. not a net increase in order quantity.

There are only 26 of them. The remaining difference is because of cancellations. 10 A380s for UPS, 18 A346s for EK, 2 A340s for LAN and one A320.



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User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 2):
BTW. Airbus' backlog is now 2925 aircraft big, including 757 widebodies, 426 of these are A330/340 orders.



Quoting Manni (Thread starter):
added an astonishing 470 new orders,

How does this compare directly to Boeing's numbers?



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 10):
How does this compare directly to Boeing's numbers?

Boeing's backlog was good for 2965 aircraft at the end of June.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...definedselection.cfm&pageid=m15527



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6937 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

Quoting Aminobwana (Reply 8):
Somebody has an explanation ??

I don't think there's anything sinister in this. The preamble picked out some juicy deals to boast about and the Aeroflot order (big though it was) didn't make the cut. But, as you acknowledge, the breakdown of the order is included in the spreadsheet. I'd say that's what counts.

Gosh. Anyone would think you didn't want Airbus to sell A350s to Aeroflot and that you're looking for reasons to believe it won't happen! Tell me it ain't so.  Wink


User currently offlineAminobwana From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1979 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 12):
I don't think there's anything sinister in this. The preamble picked out some juicy deals to boast about and the Aeroflot order (big though it was) didn't make the cut. But, as you acknowledge, the breakdown of the order is included in the spreadsheet. I'd say that's what counts.

Gosh. Anyone would think you didn't want Airbus to sell A350s to Aeroflot and that you're looking for reasons to believe it won't happen! Tell me it ain't so.

PM

The answer to your question is a cathegorical NO:

I read with much interest your objective posts. But I ask you to believe that I am objective too and simple analize discrepamcies in the announcement
As a example of my attitude, pls refer to my today postinunder the topi "AIR BERLIN..."

You write that "The preamble picked out some juicy deals to boast about and the Aeroflot order (big though it was) didn't make the cut.". Please note that of the 10 orders mentioned in the preamble only 1 (QR) were more juicy any many mich less than the omitted Aeroflot one. It is difficult to understand how such a notorious and and publicly discussed issue has not made it

So, do you not join in my opinion that thi need at least a clarification ??

regards

aminobwana


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6937 posts, RR: 63
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Quoting Aminobwana (Reply 13):
The answer to your question is a cathegorical NO:

I'm very pleased to hear it. Thank you.

Quoting Aminobwana (Reply 13):
Please note that of the 10 orders mentioned in the preamble only 1 (QR) were more juicy

That rather depends how you define "juicy". The SQ order - though marginally smaller - will certainly carry more weight in the industry. Other orders included larger number of planes. But I agree that 22 A350s is something you'd expect Airbus to crow about.

Quoting Aminobwana (Reply 13):
So, do you not join in my opinion that thi need at least a clarification ??

I can see why it's a question that is worth asking (and that's why I attempted to answer it) but I don't think it's that big a deal. The orders are there in the spreadsheet and both airline and customer have announced them. I'll settle for that.

(It might even just be a mistake. In the last week I've pointed out errors on the FLIGHT, SQ and RR websites. It happens.)


User currently offlineJdevora From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 353 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1766 times:

Just curious, are there many months (if any) with so many orders in this industry's history?

Cheers
JD


User currently offlineOlle From Sweden, joined Feb 2007, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

Will this proceed for the next of they year? The numbers are increadable.....

Shall we start to believe for 1000 frames for both A & B?


User currently offlineSandroZRH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

Quoting Olle (Reply 16):
Shall we start to believe for 1000 frames for both A & B?

That would certainly be amazing  pray 


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