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First Air France B744 BCF : F-GISA  
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

In May 2005, Boeing and Air France have signed an agreement to convert three Boeing 747-400 airplanes into freighters as part of the Boeing 747-400 Special Freighter program.
Boeing originally delivered the three airplanes as Combi models. The airline later converted the airplanes to full passenger configuration.


F-GISA is the first Air France B744 to be converted into a freighter and is now back in service.

Air France's first redelivery is the 14th for the program since the first 747-400BCF redelivery went to Cathay Pacific in December 2005, and it is the first combi-to-freighter conversion for the program.


"This 747-400BCF and the two that will follow add critical lift capacity to Air France. These three aircraft will help us to accelerate the replacement of our ageing 747-200Fs and are the perfect interim solution while we wait for the entry in service of the 777F aircraft." said Pierre Vellay, senior vice president of New Aircraft and Corporate Fleet Planning for Air France. "In addition, the fact that it is a Boeing conversion gives us confidence that we'll have the support we need."


F-GISB, The second of the three 747-400s to be converted was inducted in May and is scheduled for redelivery in August, while the conversion of third one, F-GISE is scheduled for the end of this year.

After the conversion of those 3 aircraft, Air France's fleet of B744 PAX will be downsized to 13 aircraft, including 3 ex-Combi a/c : F-GISC, F-GISD, F-GEXB (ex-UTA plane)


The 5 remaining B747-200F in service are expected to be retired from service by the end of this year. An order for 5 additional B777LRF was placed recently by AF, along with 13 more B773ER to replace before 2010 the remaining 13 B744 PAX.

"New" F-GISA :



[Edited 2007-07-08 15:34:35]

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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7088 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5820 times:

Looks like AF Cargo is really growing I hope LH Cargo would follow and placec an order for 747-8Fs or 777Fs.
They will likely convert some 747-430s to 747-430BCFs by 2010.



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5372 times:

Actually, the retirement of the B742F is accelerated as they are getting old and have more and more technical problems.
The results of AF Cargo were affected last year by those problems who impacted its reliability.


User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5034 times:

The pics dont show up.  Sad

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5011 times:

Here they are ...




User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5260 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4986 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 1):
Looks like AF Cargo is really growing I hope LH Cargo would follow and placec an order for 747-8Fs or 777Fs.
They will likely convert some 747-430s to 747-430BCFs by 2010.

By that time the economy is rocking that high that the only suitable freighter will be the A380F. And even that one will proof to be to small when we reach 7 billion persons on this planet.

I don't believe in smaller freighters for the future, the A350 and B787 won't play any role in the future freighter market. Not to mention that most cargo centers like AMS and LHR are severly slot restricted. 747's will proof to be to old and to small by that time. Maintenance costs will just be too high. A good example is Ryanair, getting rid of 5 year old 738's and replacing them with new ones. reliability is becoming very important for customers.


KL911


User currently offlineDa man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4894 times:

The pictures still do not show up, perhaps you could put them in your profile?


War Eagle!
User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5260 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4882 times:

Quoting Da man (Reply 6):
The pictures still do not show up, perhaps you could put them in your profile?

They do now in reply 4


User currently offlineDa man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4874 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 7):
They do now in reply 4

Not for me, anyone else?



War Eagle!
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

Click on the link below. You should be able to see them

http://f3.yahoofs.com/users/41c10b70...__sr_/300ere2.jpg?phAVUnGBQCdKArLX
http://f3.yahoofs.com/users/41c10b70...__sr_/d0e1re2.jpg?phAVUnGBa9cckYIn


User currently offlineDa man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 9):
Click on the link below. You should be able to see them

That worked, thanks.



War Eagle!
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9960 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

Quoting Da man (Reply 10):
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 9):
Click on the link below. You should be able to see them

That worked, thanks.

Well, it's still not working for me.....  Sad

A388


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 4525 times:

Cant see pic's in any post not even the links are working.

User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Thats pretty cool considering i flew F-GISA to and from CDG-DEL in Jan 2007.

Can't imagine, its already a freighter...in a way i am glad, the plane sure looked pretty worn down.

Yes, post the pics again, they don't work here and the links aren't working either

 Smile



come fly with me
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4114 times:

Working link, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/arianne36/VD0I7618.jpg

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