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L1011 - Banned In Europe?  
User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11051 times:

It's been a while since I've seen the aged beauties grace our skies:

Can anyone say if these are banned in Europe? are there any European operaters of the Trijets, with Aircraft based in Europe?

The RAF have them, but as these are classed as military Aircraft, there covered under different regulations.


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User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1370 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11015 times:

Early june, Jetairfly used a portuguese Tristar from Luzair when their 767 was grounded due to technical problems...


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11015 times:

Aren't there still a couple on the Portuguese register?

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10914 times:

TZ still flys their L-1011s over Europe, and I believe they refuel at SNN.

User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10852 times:

Most mainline carriers stopped using the L-1011 in the mid to late 90's-2001, but there are some charter operators still using them in addition to cargo operators and the military /hospital transports. The L-1011 production line shut down in 1983 and since not as many were produced as the DC-10 for example, not as many parts are available and companies are left to cannibalise existing airframes in order to furnish parts. And those parts are getting more difficult to come by. One of my favorite birds!  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4683 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10852 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 2):
Aren't there still a couple on the Portuguese register?

 checkmark  Luzair and Euro Atlantic Airways should still have them.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27028 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10575 times:

Quoting Iflyatldl (Reply 4):
One of my favorite birds! bigthumbsup

Its a shame to see these wonderful jets getting less and less . I remember at LHR when I was a kid watching BA/AC/TP/UL. And then there was the BW ''Sunjet''. From what I remember AC used to run them LHR to NCE !!


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10519 times:

I was lucky enough to fly on British Airtours and Delta TriStars.

Hang on - did I say "lucky"?! Great plane - two miserable experiences!


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8124 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10472 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 7):
I was lucky enough to fly on British Airtours and Delta TriStars. Hang on - did I say "lucky"?! Great plane - two miserable experiences!

Exactly the same - great plane, but I flew her with Delta (horrible beyond words) and Gulf Air (OK but I was sick).



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User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10244 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
TZ still flys their L-1011s over Europe, and I believe they refuel at SNN.

Very True, but these are mostly military charters.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27028 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10184 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 7):
Delta TriStars.

Oh yeah I forgot , I flew DL tristar from IAD-JFK in F class which was fantastic and then flew LAX-ATL-FRA in Y class. I actually had good flights with DL.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10156 times:

GLOBE JET AIRLINES is still flying 3 Tristar L1011-500 (OD-MIR, OD-JOE & OD-ZEE). They can be seen here and there in Europe (WAW, BUD, MAD, GRO)


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EURO ATLANTIC AIRWAYS is also still flying a L1011-500 (CS-TEB)


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So the answer to the original question asked is " No, L1011 Tristar are not banned in Europe ... They are just becoming more and more rare, like all other old aircraft".


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10131 times:
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Quoting FlySSC (Reply 11):
EURO ATLANTIC AIRWAYS is also still flying a L1011-500 (CS-TEB)

Hi FlySSC,

this aircraft is actually stored in Rio de Janeiro airport on repair after used to substitute during a pair of months the 767 of Pluna.

Don't forget LUZAIR which is flying a L1011-500 (CS-TMP and CS-TMR). The first is normally used on behalf PIA and Virgin Nigeria on Hadj flights; the last is stored in Amsterdam.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineArecibo From Spain, joined Aug 2004, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8079 times:

Why is this topic discused here?......it seems it belongs at the Aviation polls forum. It denotes need for attention, who has such supreme authority to ban any type of aircraft from the Sky's of so many countries? Please.....  eyebrow 


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User currently offlineTonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1946 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6763 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
TZ still flys their L-1011s over Europe, and I believe they refuel at SNN

They do. I frequently see them there. They stop for refuelling on military charters.



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User currently offlineMah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 509 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6607 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 8):
Exactly the same - great plane, but I flew her with Delta (horrible beyond words) and Gulf Air (OK but I was sick).

I had a good experience on the L1011. I love the sound of the engines most.


User currently offlineHobbsieoz From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5894 times:

ATA also fly their L1011's to Europe on charter flights.


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User currently offlineBoeingluvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5800 times:

TCX had one until a year or so ago and they did routes such as MAN-YYC and other routes within Europe and Carribean destinations, so not unless something has happened in the last year.

User currently offlineF4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

i believe that the raf operates a weekly service from brize norton to the falkland islands which i would imagine use a tristar

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27028 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

Quoting F4f3a (Reply 18):
i believe that the raf operates a weekly service from brize norton to the falkland islands which i would imagine use a tristar

I started a thread a while back about the RAF services to the Falklands and it was said that they use a A330 from a charter airline now . Not sure what the present situation is though. Id love to get on one.


User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2900 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5474 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
they use a A330 from a charter airline now

That was Air Luxor, now defunct. That A330 is now owned by HiFly (also Portuguese) flying Australian troops to/from Afghanistan. The Falkland flights should be carried by someone else, as HiFly only has one plane.



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User currently offlineHAWAIIAN932 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4672 times:

The L-1011's are pretty rare here in the USA also. I live in Las Vegas and I remember back in the mid-90's we used to get alot of them landing here at LAS. Rich International, ATA, Air Canada, Royal, Airtransat, Worldways Canada, Hawaiian, TWA and Delta all flew them in here regularly. I remember flying the L-1011 between SFO and LAX on PSA with the plane being referred to as "Mother Grinningbird" because all the PSA jets had a smile painted below their nose. Those were the good old days.

User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4255 times:

Can't think of any reason why as a a/c type the Tristar would be banned from the EU. Certainly not for noise or emission reasons. It's just simply a rare and endangered species of bird.

User currently offlineBruspotter From Belgium, joined Jan 2004, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

As far as I know, Tora Bora of The Congo still operate Tristar services into BRU.


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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3952 times:
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Quoting Bruspotter (Reply 23):
As far as I know, Tora Bora of The Congo still operate Tristar services into BRU.

Hewa Bora Airlines (don't be wrong with the Afghanistan city  Smile ) operates only once a week flight operated with 330 equipment. Leased or purchased from who, when, where, how?????

Last notices were that EO operated 762ER ex-Air Gabon to BRU.

Regards,

Gerard



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25 Leothedog : Take a chill pill, dude. If the mods think it should be moved, they'll move it. I flew a Delta L-1011 back in 1987 from SFO to DFW. Also back in 2000
26 SandroZRH : So did I, and my experience wasn't any better than yours.
27 Boeingluvr : RAF still operates L1011's and VC10's between Brize norton and YYC at least twice or three times weekly.
28 787EWR : Flew a TriStar from DL from DFW through to LAX in the early 90's. I seem to remember that the cabinet was huge, but the plane was really creaking at e
29 Malaysia : I loved them and flew them... always a great experience on the Eastern and TWA L-1011s
30 Post contains images Gilesdavies : To my knowledge the EU does not have a policy of blanket banning a particular aircraft... They will ban an airline or a particular type of its aircraf
31 Burkhard : If I remember well there was an issue with the Euroatlantic Tristars maintenance about two years ago, I saw them grounded at Lisbon January 2006. But
32 Post contains images United_Fan : You have Sheldon's L1011 there now along with the 747SP,don't complian I only flew on 2 L1011's in July 95 CVG-ZRH-CVG on DL.
33 Tsnamm : Whatever happened to "Air Scotland"'s supposed L1011 service from GLA to YYZ,JFK etc....just fell off the map...would have been nice to see that.
34 United_Fan : What's going on with 'Transatlantic Airways' ex-DL L1011 from VCV ???
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