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25th Anniversary Of Pan Am 759  
User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 51
Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13728 times:

On 7/9/82, Pan Am's Boeing 727-200 "Clipper Defiance" crashed on departure from MSY due to wind shear. 154 people were killed. The aircraft was routing MIA-MSY-LAS-SFO. My next door neighbor was one of the police chief's who worked the crash scene.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl070807jbpanam.569e55f1.html

Here she is....ex National bird...may all souls continue to rest in peace:


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Photo © Howard Chaloner




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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 13652 times:

Also, on a related note, one of my former coworkers at Vanguard was the gate agent working 759. He had over 20 years with National before ending up with PA.


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User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 13639 times:

I was in the Ionosphere Club in ATL when it came on CNN.

User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13543 times:

Excellent report about the crash. What a horrible tragedy.


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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3049 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13468 times:

I can remember that day vividly and what a sad and tragic accident it was. I was working for the company that provided the airport van shuttle service at the time and we always monitored 870 am news radio in the office and I still remember the very first report of the crash saying that a plane had crash landed on Williams Blvd but the first reports made it sound like it was not an airliner; sadly how wrong they were. I used to drive by that neighborhood every now and then, and for years there were two houses one on each caddy corner that were destroyed but not rebuilt, and these lots remained vacant so you could always tell the flight path of the aircraft. Still makes me sad to think about it. That TV news video brought back those memories again and especially of Father Rogers, because I remember that photo in the Times-Picayune of him giving the last rites to a victim; very moving picture. RIP to the passengers, crew and the residents lost.


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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 13348 times:

I was still in school at Embry-Riddle, and the thing I remember were the aerial shots taken from a helicopter that was circling nearby.

We live about five miles from the neighborhood where 759 went down, and while most of the area has been rebuilt, a few vacant lots remain. I'll try to run over there on my way into work tomorrow and post a couple of pictures of the area.

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13251 times:

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 5):
I was still in school at Embry-Riddle, and the thing I remember were the aerial shots taken from a helicopter that was circling nearby.

We live about five miles from the neighborhood where 759 went down, and while most of the area has been rebuilt, a few vacant lots remain. I'll try to run over there on my way into work tomorrow and post a couple of pictures of the area.

Tom at MSY

I take it there is no memorial there? I know a memorial would be the last thing thought of during the rebuilding process, but do you think it has ever been discussed by the city? Also, is wind shear the for sure cause of the crash? I have heard of wind shear being the cause of crashes during landing, but takeoff?



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User currently offlineCubastar From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 397 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13053 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 6):
I have heard of wind shear being the cause of crashes during landing, but takeoff?

Here you go.............

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19820709-0

Also, there have been others on takeoff. A CO 727 (or maybe DC9) out of Denver Stapleton comes to mind.


User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12903 times:

Quoting Cubastar (Reply 7):
Also, there have been others on takeoff. A CO 727 (or maybe DC9) out of Denver Stapleton comes to mind.

There was CO DC9 that crashed on takeoff at DEN in 1987, but the cause was ice on the wings during a blizzard.



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User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1113 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12895 times:

Quoting 747buff (Reply 8):
Quoting Cubastar (Reply 7):
Also, there have been others on takeoff. A CO 727 (or maybe DC9) out of Denver Stapleton comes to mind.

There was CO DC9 that crashed on takeoff at DEN in 1987, but the cause was ice on the wings during a blizzard.

CAL or UAL or maybe both had non-fatal WS accidents in DEN,late 70's early 80's


User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12879 times:

Quoting 747buff (Reply 8):
There was CO DC9 that crashed on takeoff at DEN in 1987, but the cause was ice on the wings during a blizzard.

My Dad was a mechanic for CO and was at work when Flt 1713 crashed


Very sad... Both crashes that is  candle 

-Carl



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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12877 times:

F9animal: there is a memorial there.....it's location wasn't widely known (I had tried to find it before, but never could). I had heard it was on a property in which the house had been destroyed in the crash. A newspaper article today mentioned that it's in the courtyard of a nearby church, which tells me it might have been relocated at some point. I'll post a picture of it tomorrow, as well as a couple pictures of the neighborhod that I took today.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12841 times:

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 11):
F9animal: there is a memorial there.....it's location wasn't widely known (I had tried to find it before, but never could). I had heard it was on a property in which the house had been destroyed in the crash. A newspaper article today mentioned that it's in the courtyard of a nearby church, which tells me it might have been relocated at some point. I'll post a picture of it tomorrow, as well as a couple pictures of the neighborhod that I took today.

Tom at MSY

Thanks Tom! I need to get out to visit MSY soon. That would be one of my planned visits. If you find it, that would be great if you could clue me in to where it is located. I also want to invest some money into the economy. Not to get off the subject, but how is everything going out there in your neck of the woods? I can't wait to see the pics!  Smile



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User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12754 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
On 7/9/82, Pan Am's Boeing 727-200 "Clipper Defiance" crashed on departure from MSY due to wind shear. 154 people were killed.

May the memory of those who perished forever be a blessing.  candle 



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User currently offlineCubastar From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 397 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12640 times:

Quoting Cubastar (Reply 7):
Also, there have been others on takeoff. A CO 727 (or maybe DC9) out of Denver Stapleton comes to mind.



Quoting 747buff (Reply 8):
There was CO DC9 that crashed on takeoff at DEN in 1987, but the cause was ice on the wings during a blizzard.

I think that this is the one that I was talking about.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19750807-0


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 12571 times:

Here are some pictures of the memorial, as well as a couple of the neighborhood where the plane went down:

The monument is located in the courtyard of a church located a mile or so from the actual crash site. The actual memorial is the curved wall (with the names of the victims) and the statue of Jesus. The bell tower is not part of the memorial:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/tmoore065/DSC04800.jpg?t=1184172058

Some flowers had been placed at the memorial a couple of days ago on the anniversary:



Here are a couple of the neighborhood where the plane went down. I couldn't find any vacant lots (there might be a couple that I didn't see) in the area. Also, I'm positive that I remember reading something about either a memorial, or more likely a marker, that is somewhere in the neighborhood. I'm guessing it's in somebody's backyard.....either way, it's not something that street signs give directions to:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/tmoore065/DSC04794.jpg?t=1184172313
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/tmoore065/DSC04795.jpg?t=1184172343

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 12559 times:

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 15):
Here are some pictures of the memorial, as well as a couple of the neighborhood where the plane went down:

The monument is located in the courtyard of a church located a mile or so from the actual crash site. The actual memorial is the curved wall (with the names of the victims) and the statue of Jesus. The bell tower is not part of the memorial:

That memorial is very nice! Excellent pictures, and certainly touching. Thanks Tom, and welcome to my respect list!



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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 12506 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 16):
That memorial is very nice! Excellent pictures, and certainly touching. Thanks Tom, and welcome to my respect list!

Thanks for the props!

Just dug this up, as well:

http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/2007/07/crash071007.gif

This graphic wasn't in yesterday's paper (at least in my edition), but I found it at the local paper's blog.....as well as a link to the article (minus the graphic) that did make the paper:

http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/...rash_anniversary_draws_little.html

Tom at MSY

[Edited 2007-07-11 19:45:27]


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User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12395 times:

Quoting Cubastar (Reply 14):
I think that this is the one that I was talking about.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/...807-0

My bad, I wasn't aware of that crash until you posted the link.



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User currently offlineCubastar From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 397 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12318 times:

Quoting 747buff (Reply 18):
My bad, I wasn't aware of that crash until you posted the link.

Hey.....not your bad. We're all in this together to learn, reminisce, enlighten and enjoy. Planes rule Andrew. Ciao!


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