FlyTUITravel From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 723 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9340 times:
The search function doesn't work for me and I just wanted to know...
Am I right in saying the VS has a few more A346s on order that are due for delivery for this year? If so, then what is going to happen?
Either LH, IB, EY, QR could take them on... but if those carriers aren't interested in the somewhat inefficient A346, could other airlines buy the planes of VS before they are delivered (can someone who knows when they are due let me know?) i.e. airlines that haven't previously ordered the aircraft but wouldn't mind the extra capacity? Like BI for instance who is looking for a new long-haul fleet?
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8845 times:
Quoting FlyTUITravel (Thread starter): Am I right in saying the VS has a few more A346s on order that are due for delivery for this year? If so, then what is going to happen?
From what I have been informed, it is becoming very unlikely that Virgin Atlantic will be taking any more A346's. I sincerely hope that this is not the case. The A346's are a great replacement for Virgins 744's and would fill the gap until their A380's start to arrive or even possibly an eventual A350-1000 order.
Quoting FlyTUITravel (Thread starter): Either LH, IB, EY, QR could take them on... but if those carriers aren't interested in the somewhat inefficient A346
Inefficient ? It would have been wise to think twice before posting such remarks. The A346's is currently one of the most efficient airplane in the 350 seat segment. Despite its higher fuel burn vs the 77W, it is by no means inefficient. Some of the major A346 operators are also among the most profitable airlines in the world. (IB, LH, VS)
Quoting Scorpio (Reply 7):
Let's ask Singapore Airlines.
And Qatar Airways.
Correct Scorpio. I would include Qantas into the group of very likely candidates to also order A350 in the future
The 787/A350 will most likely end up being operated side by side, like what we currenlty seeing with the A330/777 combo.
Yeah someone that knows what they are talking about and or did a simple web search to see that the a/c has been in operation for a good year and a half now.
Current VS A346 fleet
371 340-642 30/08/2003 G-VGOA Named Indian Princess
376 340-642 23/10/2003 G-VATL Named Miss Kitty
383 340-642 26/07/2002 G-VSHY Named Madam Butterfly
391 340-642 15/10/2002 G-VMEG Named Mystic Maiden
416 340-642 29/11/2002 G-VOGE Named Cover Girl
449 340-642 23/12/2002 G-VFOX Named Silver Lady
575 340-642 08/04/2004 G-VEIL Named Queen of the Skies
615 340-642 18/02/2005 G-VSSH Named Sweet Dreamer
622 340-642 17/03/2005 G-VNAP Named Sleeping Beauty
639 340-642 27/05/2005 G-VGAS Named Varga Girl
706 340-642 01/12/2005 G-VWKD Named Miss Behavin
723 340-642 30/01/2006 G-VBLU Named Soul Sister
736 340-642 28/02/2006 G-VWIN Named Lady Luck
753 340-642 24/05/2006 G-VFIT Named Dancing Queen
764 340-642 19/07/2006 G-VFIZ Named Bubbles
765 340-642 23/08/2006 G-VYOU Named Emmeline Heaney
768 340-642 19/10/2006 G-VRED Named Scarlet Lady
787 340-642 20/12/2006 G-VWEB Named Surfer Girl
804 340-642 28/02/2007 G-VBUG Named Lady Bird
SevenHeavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1164 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8607 times:
Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 16): Yeah someone that knows what they are talking about and or did a simple web search to see that the a/c has been in operation for a good year and a half now.
Thanks for the compliment but I must admit I didn't need to - if you see them as often as I do you get to know this stuff off by heart ( sad, I know )
Quoting WINGS (Reply 14): The A346's are a great replacement for Virgins 744's and would fill the gap until their A380's start to arrive or even possibly an eventual A350-1000 order.
The A346 are very good at providing extra capacity for existing A343 routes but they fall a way short of being able to replace B744's. particularly on the leisure routes. Even in its lowest capacity the B744 holds 80 more passengers and its length makes it much more restrictive on where it can fly.
It is not completely out of the question that VS will take more A346 but once the 787's start being delivered the need for more A346 will pretty much be non-existant
Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 12): A little off topic but does anyone know if G-VYOU is painted in the revised color scheme?
No. It was the last to be delivered in the old livery. Only G-VRED/BUG/WEB are in new colours.
ZuluTime From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8378 times:
The A340-600s can't be used on some of the Caribbean routes to replace the 747-400s. Airbus nosewheels have an inhibited nosewheel deployment and so you can't turn the aircraft around on the runway - the A340 needs a larger turning circle than the 747-400 which isn't available at some of the Caribbean points to which they fly.
Those are not so obvious!
-The 787-8 has no competitor, which is why Qatar ordered it, along with the (larger) A350s.
-There is absolutely no confirmation that Aeroflot will stick to its 787 order.
-And as for Singapore, it is not very obvious as to why they ordered both. The 787-9 has an A350 competitor and the A350-900 has a 787 competitor.
The only real reason why any airline would have both the 787 and A350 is if they want the 787 and then something the size of the A350-1000, or if they want the A350, and then something the size of the 787-8. Qatar falls under this category.