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JFK/LGA/EWR/PHL/BWI/DCA Ground Stop!  
User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11982 times:

Just came across on the media, all New York City airports are closed due to the threat of severe weather..


More to come...

-JD

[Edited 2007-07-10 21:54:49]

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User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11942 times:

http://www.flightarrivals.com/cgi-bi...s.woa/3/wo/vb1UY0aQIiuFx3WBDe/1.15

DCA/PHL/BWI also affected!

-JD


User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11942 times:

Wow, bad summer times are here again!!!! Just when the afternoon rush ex Europe is starting.
Will it also affect BWI and PHL?



Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight KUL-FRA-AMS Flown in A319,A
User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11909 times:

Just too late with the post


Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight KUL-FRA-AMS Flown in A319,A
User currently onlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6797 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11842 times:

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Thread starter):
all New York City airports are closed due to the threat of severe weather

Um, it doesn't appear that they are actually closed; there's just a ground stop in effect.


User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11803 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 4):
Um, it doesn't appear that they are actually closed; there's just a ground stop in effect.


Flight Diversions at LGA

AA 626, 1332

US 2033, 2035

Flight Diversion at EWR

CO 886

-JD

[Edited 2007-07-10 22:07:46]

User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11673 times:

JFK Delays Inbound

Jet Blue

BOS, RIC, CLT, CMH, IAD, FLL, MCO

American/American Eagle

RDU, DCA, BWI

Delta/Delta Connection

PIT, DCA, RDU, BOS, BWI, IAD, ROC, ATL
PVD, BDL, BGM, MHT, SYR, ALB

Northwest

MSP, DTW

-JD


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11521 times:

http://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/

not a fun day in the east


User currently offline787EWR From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11443 times:

I'm listening to Kennedy groundtower and things seem to be moving again.

User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11443 times:

Yeah - it's a mess. And all the flights from the WAS area that diverted to PHL, and finally got back off the gate, are now on average 2hour + taxi times. Two flight attendant colleagues of mine are stuck in the mess - they both say "Oh the humanity.....". (one in BWI, one in PHL).

And just for good measure - ATL and ORD just went on their afternoon TSTM ground delay programs. YUM - packed airplanes, no movement, and no protection for the passenges.


User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11386 times:

More Diversions

SA)">CO 880, 2818

SA)">DL 2278

SA 204


User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2782 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11315 times:

Quoting DALCA (Reply 2):
Will it also affect BWI and PHL?

Yes.

There are going to be lots of diversions today.

Current Ground Stops: BOS, BWI, DCA, EWR, IAD, LGA, ORD, PHL, TEB

Delay Programs: ATL, BOS, EWR, JFK, LGA, PHL

Two airspace flow programs as well in DC and Cleveland Centers.



It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems with just potatoes.
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8906 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11280 times:

Had a ground stop on my way to CLE this morning. In fact, the way the day started, my CO flight to EWR (EWR-BOS) was delayed over 2 hours due to lousy ceilings in BOS (I was sitting in the President's Club and couldn't even see more than a gate down that's how bad it was). Eventually, I got rebooked onto a flight to CLE, but we hit a ground stop in BOS then, at which point I realized my connection to CMH was shot there, and since I was to fly back to Boston tonight (only in CMH for a few hours), I got off the plane, went to the President's Club, claimed Trip in Vain (since I had no way of making it to CMH in time for what I needed to do) and got my money back.

And of course, right now, BOS is in a ground stop too due to thunderstorms; my flight back from CLE-BOS, scheduled for a 325p departure, is sitting on a taxiway in CLE right now caught in the middle of this ground stop. Really glad I claimed Trip in Vain...


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2673 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11058 times:

I don't remember if it was this bad last summer or not.... anyone??


I have no association with Spirit Airlines
User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10981 times:

It sucks every summer - the difference, of course, is that planes are fuller and fewer.

User currently offlineStarCityFlyr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10798 times:

It looks like every summer, we hear that air travel is going to get worse and worse. Yet I hear nothing about any plans to do anything about the problems. All I see are "hand wringing" officials warning the traveling public to be prepared for extensive delays, cancellations and problems. Is there not someone smart enough to realize that you can only have so many planes in the air and at the airport at any one given point in time?

It amazes me that while the FAA officials are saying that the ATC system is operating at or above capacity, the airlines are continuing to add service. When will someone realize that until systems (computer and other) are upgraded or changed, additional flights should be restricted?

Why are we continuing to turn a blind eye to the problems?  irked 


User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10487 times:

Quoting StarCityFlyr (Reply 15):
Why are we continuing to turn a blind eye to the problems?

Let's not forget that the airlines are challenging the current funding system for the FAA which is holding things up... I'm not saying that they don't have a valid point, but its' a hold up non the less to funding the upgrades...



Why do I fly???
User currently offlineN710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10430 times:

Whoo hooo! I got away scott Free. I was off today. Yipeee!!!! I hear it was one of the worst in a while for the NY area though.


There is plenty of room for Gods animals, right next to the mashed potatoes!
User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10314 times:

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Thread starter):
Just came across on the media, all New York City airports are closed due to the threat of severe weather..



Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 1):
DCA/PHL/BWI also affected!

Well, at least none of the major airports were affected.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineCberflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9794 times:

F9 728 from DEN was diverted from DCA to IAD, after being in holding patterns west and south of DCA for almost an hour. After a 45 minute refueling stop, we took off again for the >10 minute hop over to DCA.

User currently offlinePizzaandplanes From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9762 times:

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 16):
Let's not forget that the airlines are challenging the current funding system for the FAA which is holding things up...

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The world war II era ATC equipment is showing that the FAA is in need of more funds to upgrade their equipment. The problem is that the airlines only use 86% of the ATC services and but the airlines still pay for close to 99% of the funds. Therefore, with private charter planes only contributing the last 1% general aviation pays for close to nothing. Furthermore, upgrading the ATC systems all over the USA is imperative to keeping our skies safe and to reduce delays in congested areas.


User currently offlineSR100 From UK - England, joined Dec 2005, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9595 times:

Great job by jetBlue


I was on flight B6 334 MCO - IAD this afternoon and we were diverted to RDU. At all times, the flight deck and cabin crew informed us about what the knew. During the three hour delay, about half of this time in a holding pattern over South Carolina, we received several times mineral water and other refreshments. All five crew members were very, very friendly and patient with those among us, having outbount connection flights in IAD and being worried.

Compared to several similar weather related delays and diversions that I have expierenced with other carriers in North America and Europe, today's work of this B6 crew was by far the best. Very impressive handling of the situation by this crew, thank you.



My favourite planes flown: Lockheed 188 Electra, Tridents, VC-10, B-707, L-1011, A330, E90 + Concorde
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16885 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9542 times:

My wife and and just got back from Las Vegas (trip report to follow), our flight CO# 1579 was scheduled to land at 7:44Pm. Someplace over the mid-West the pilot came over the pa to announce that we made such great time that we would be landing at 7PM, when we got to Pennsylvania the Captain came on again to notify us that the FAA was not allowing flights from the West to enter the NYC area. That began our trip up North of NYC where we circled, however the Captain (who btw did a fantastic job the whole way, really great crew tonight) notified us that we had a quick oppurtunity to make an approach to EWR from the North. He stated though that if we were told to hold one more time from the FAA the Captain and First Officer were going to take us to our alternate airport which was Stewart airport, we started decending quickly and through some really bumpy clouds we landed at EWR at 7:30.

They pad EWR's schedules so much and we made such good time coming back East that after all those holds and circling we pulled into the gate 8 minutes early, however once inside it was obvious the extent of the delays as announcments were being made of departure delays up to three hours. The CO service centers were packed.

I have another even more dramatic story about the flight to Las Vegas, but I will save that for my trip report.

You can see our flight tonight, where we started circling and where we headed North to wait.

Big version: Width: 400 Height: 340 File size: 14kb



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineKubus From Poland, joined Dec 2005, 183 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9321 times:

Quoting Pizzaandplanes (Reply 20):
The world war II era ATC equipment is showing that the FAA is in need of more funds to upgrade their equipment. The problem is that the airlines only use 86% of the ATC services and but the airlines still pay for close to 99% of the funds. Therefore, with private charter planes only contributing the last 1% general aviation pays for close to nothing. Furthermore, upgrading the ATC systems all over the USA is imperative to keeping our skies safe and to reduce delays in congested areas.

FAA needs to quit wasting funds and actually complete a project or two in timely fashion. As for the GA argument, look up couple threads here or go look up AOPA and read the news there not CNN and the like.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8826 times:

Part of the problem in the northeast on Tuesday was an ATC radar problem that affected PHL and BWI/IAD/DCA. That created a backlog, and even once the radar was back in service, the normal traffic + backlog + afternoon storms = a big mess. We had stuff anywhere from 1-5 hours late. Lines of weather went through MDW as well.

Wednesday doesn't look to be much better. A cold front will be running about SHV to BGR, with rain/thunderstorms out ahead of it, and everything between BOS and CLT is going to get nailed by weather, with re-routes, and more ground stops and ground delay programs.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to be working the PHL desk....  Sad


25 Post contains images JayDub : Well...as long as you didn't stop sniffing glue today, as well... I am so glad I worked early morning shift this morning...
26 N710PS : I have not been on company WSI yet today as I am home for one more day but I am hopeing the convective chills out a little bit by Thursday.
27 LAXspotter : Just heard on CNN, that an aircraft was #57 for takeoff, WTF? LOL. That would have been a unique experience. The most congested airspace in the countr
28 WJ : Not just any problem, it was a direct lightning strike to my understanding. shut down pretty much the whole DC area from about 1300EST until 1600EST.
29 DTWAGENT : Here in DTW we did not get the big storms like they where saying. Everything went north of DTW to FNT, LAN, MBS. We need the rain badly here.
30 RL757PVD : both of those went to CHS... i was doing CHS-ATL yesterday evening and saw 2 AA mainline there, found out they were diversions, and they were both th
31 Blueskies8 : I had a 1630 lcl departure out of Florida last night going to Teterboro. It started as a 1 hour update delay and turned into a 3 hour 18 minute ground
32 N710PS : I have been number 71 at LGA once to go. Now that was a hell of a wait. Lucky me I was not a crew member on that flight but a passenger doing the non
33 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : I am willing to bet you had a score of Dash8, ERJ, and CRJ waiting in front of you! The airport cloggers were at work.. -JD
34 Galapagapop : It's starting again, AA departures past 2PM look to be mostly canceled, now I got to scramble and get to JFK so I can get to STL for tomorrow!
35 Post contains images Mk777 : If there are thunderstorms around the DC metro area and the northeast corridor, if diversion is required, where do inbound long haul flights from Euro
36 Post contains links and images Profpete : I had two friends coming back to BWI from Europe yesterday with connections in JFK and EWR. one was canceled altogether and the other had a 4 hour del
37 FLYGUY767 : Severe Thunderstorms forecasted... BOS, BDL, PIT, CLE -JD
38 Blueskies8 : ORF would be high on my list with GSO, RDU, CLT and CAE as possiblities. Given the circumstances there are not many options to the north but MDT and
39 Galapagapop : Sadly I'm seeing the same, although right now it's the low ceiling that's affecting traffic, but the T storms aren't supposed to start till a little
40 Post contains images BH : Don't forget your nieghbors down the road at BWI, it's been a good month for diversions so far. Take care
41 FLYGUY767 : JFK DELAYS 11 JULY Aero Mexico 408 Air France 12 American Airlines 1171, 4615 Delta Airlines 279, 5013, 6022 Jet Blue 1, 1305, 705, 757, 59, 643, 65,
42 Galapagapop : Are BDL and BWI expecting these storms?
43 FLYGUY767 : LGA DELAYS 11 JULY Continental Airlines 3417 Delta Air Lines 5462 United Airlines 2634, 2771, 677 US Airways 2124, 2171, 3592, 4603, 4873 LGA DIVERSIO
44 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : EWR DELAYS 11 JULY Continental Airlines 1439, 1125, 2499, 2817, 2950, 3079 Delta Air Lines 1278 EWR NO DIVERSIONS 11 JULY -JD
45 Post contains links FLYGUY767 : Source ~ FAA Website: http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/flyfaaindex.jsp "Delays by Destination: Due to WEATHER/HAZE, departure traffic destined to Newark
46 N710PS : I know a few comrades are going to have one hell of a day with LGA today for sure. Any bets that LGA has at least two ground stops more prior to midn
47 Worldsurfer : ADD CO 2614 YHZ-EWR plane just got here , but we have an ATC delay they will update us at 13:46 Local time here in Halifax
48 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : All I have to say is...   -JD[Edited 2007-07-11 18:22:18]
49 FLYGUY767 : ************************ U P D A T E D ********************************* JFK DELAYS 11 JULY Aero Mexico 408 Air France 12 American Airlines 1171, 4615
50 Mk777 : Why is outbound flight to BKK diverted?? Doesn't this flight leave JFK at 12pm, i can't understand why its diverted, isn't it already on the ground a
51 United787 : Just out of curiosity, does Europe get storms like the Eastern portion of the US gets on such a regular basis? I don't recall hearing about European a
52 BlueSkys : Would you like the airlines, private charter & GA to really pay for this? Then our fares and aircraft rentals will be even higher!!! I for one say le
53 FLYGUY767 : The problem with the US is a frequency issue, airports such as JFK/LGA/EWR cannot keep up with the demand that the airlines are putting on them. In E
54 Post contains links and images Nkops : I wonder if this one will be added to JFK diversions... kind of taking the long way here... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JBU1044
55 RL757PVD : Looks like he's setting up an appch to PIT
56 N710PS : Looks like EWR, JFK and than LGA are about to come under the gun again today. Very nasty cell crossing EWR as I type. I am sitting and waiting for the
57 AlitaliaMD11 : CO88 and CO145 both diverted to SWF recently. Add CO111 to that. SWF has become a mini EWR quiet a couple of times this summer, shame I'm in Peru at t
58 Nkops : I know ACY just got US804 from CUN and B6 506 from FLL. No customs in ACY so the CUN pax must be just sitting on board.
59 PITrules : Continental's NRT-EWR 777 just showed up in PIT.
60 Crewchief : Given our graduated tax system and the higher income levels of aircraft owners versus the average airline passenger, the owners of the private planes
61 AlitaliaMD11 : To add to my earlier post (sorry I can't edit it): CO88 from PEK (777-200) CO111 from CGN (757-200) CO145 from MAD (757-200) CO466 from SJU (757-300)
62 PDXtriple7 : My parents are stuck in EWR right after arriving earlier from LGW on CO. They're on CO785 to PDX, but the aircraft diverted (I'm not sure where) and t
63 Steeler83 : One of the only times PIT ever gets to see such beautiful sights!!! I wonder what other long-haul diversions showed up in the Burgh...
64 OPNLguy : " target=_blank>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/J...U1044 Looks like New York couldn't/wouldn't take the handoff from Cleveland, based on where he
65 Post contains links RP TPA : Air Canada 584 (YYC-JFK) just diverted to YYZ. Estimated into Toronto at 2000, and they're still hoping to send it to JFK. Estimated departure from YY
66 Post contains images Steeler83 : Wow... This has to be the craziest routing I have seen in some time! That B6 flight buzzed around CLE for a little while, then pressed on to... it lo
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