Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 26446 times:
Lufthansa asked in a recent online survey what passengers think about a "Sleeper-Class" for Economy Class passengers on long overnight flights such as Frankfurt-Singapore or Frankfurt-Johannesburg:
To increase the travel comfort on intercontinental night flights, Lufthansa is thinking about a separate sleeping area within Economy Class. There, you would have the possibility to sleep in beds with an angle of 180° (Full Flat). This option could be booked instead of a seat.
In the future, when booking a night flight with Lufthansa from Johannesburg to Frankfurt, would you generally be interested in booking into the sleeping area instead of a seat in Economy Class?
EBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1057 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 26366 times:
Interesting approach, but it seems like there would be a few challenges to overcome first. One important would be the safety factor - especially in a situation where the plane has to be evacuated within the 90 sec limit.
Although the image does not stipulate a potential conversion ot seats, I think also in future pax will need to sit upright during T/O and landing (it is the case today even when flying in First or Business). Lying flat with only one seat belt should be too dangerous in case of aborted take-off, as I doubt that that single restraining device would be sufficient to hold the pax in place.
Another aspect is that the image does not show any devices to stow hand luggage.
But this details might have been left out intentionally ...
Overall, I would be in favour of such a feature, even if this would mean a surcharge to a (seat) Eco ticket, as I envision that the overall cost would still be lower than a Business Class ticket (currently I am flying longhaul in Business mainly due to the fact that Eco-seats are way too cramped for me).
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Flyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 856 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 25257 times:
alltho its only a graphic , but it still looks like a flight for prisoners.i wouldent want to travel like that.It looks like some cheapo cabin.also the beds looks too cramped and cheap.maybe they should add more space.
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B4REAL From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2684 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 25228 times:
I really don't see this as too far of a stretch - safety included. Consider this picture link above - there are only 5 clearly visible rows on the outside, and unclearly (presumably) four floor (x3 going up) positions in regards to direction of flight on the centerline. So, that makes about 42 sleeper positions in this space. So, take a large aircraft and carve out that footprint for this configuration then charge the premium. Not a bad idea.....
Also - who is to say this is on the main deck! Doesn't the A340 for LH have a downstairs!
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10277 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 25062 times:
Quoting B4REAL (Reply 16): Also - who is to say this is on the main deck! Doesn't the A340 for LH have a downstairs!
This is an idea being thrown out for the 747-800s that LH will be recieving. The area between door 3 and door 4 has some of the most valuable real estate in the sky above it. It is tall enough to walk in. For an extra fee, an economy passenger can have a bunk in addition to their seat. The idea has been floated with business class seats and then full flat beds in a separate area which would make for the best first class experience ever. Its not going to replace seats on the cabin floor. Also people will not be able to use these bunks during takeoff or landing because there are not adequate exits. Its an option. Let's see if it ever comes true. Right now it seems like all the 748 will have is a large crew bunk and an overhead galley between doors 4 and 5.
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ElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1555 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 24868 times:
Kudos to Lufthansa for thinking outside of the box. However, this may be more PR than anything.
All those beds and the structure to hold them up are going to weigh a whole lot. Unless they are charging a lot of extra change to make up for the added weight, this idea certainly won't make it past the drawing board. Add in safety and impact certification, the idea seems like a real pipe dream.