Fllcontinental From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2903 times:
I was wondering why some airlines have not decided to fly to FLL from europe or vice versa? The 9000 ft runway can certainly handle a large aircraft. And because FLL is the fastest growing airport in USA is there a chance in the near future?
Fllcontinental From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2657 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2): I believe FCA are starting a fortnightly LGW-FLL service usign 763ERs
Rdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 900 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2596 times:
There was proposed a flight from BHX with Flyblue to link with the cruise passenger needs from the UK.It did not actually get off the ground because they did not have an aircraft!!
Jetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 811 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2582 times:
Once FLL actually gets a customs facility and international terminal capable of handling such a flight, I would expect to see that. Especially once the new parallel runway is built. However, I'd expect more in the way of years rather than months.
For now, MIA will be the transatlantic and more international airport - while FLL will be the mostly domestic field with a little int'l service sprinkled in, similar to how LGA and EWR/JFK work.
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2400 times:
PBI has a 10,000 foot main runway and the surrounding area has a large German and Finnish population. So why doesn't Finnair, LTU or even Lufthansa fly to PBI? The Palm Beach market could certainly support a couple of weekly flights to Europe. Britannia used to run a weekly charter from PBI a couple of years ago to London, not sure what happened to that flight.
Once FLL actually gets a customs facility and international terminal capable of handling such a flight, I would expect to see that.
Laker started service FLL-LGW over 10 years ago and went belly up, again! I guess MIA/MCO is the preferred Florida gateways as that is where the traffic is, notwithstanding FLL being a good airport.
Fllcontinental From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2169 times:
Quoting Scotron11 (Reply 7): Once FLL actually gets a customs facility and international terminal capable of handling such a flight, I would expect to see that.
Jetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 811 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2137 times:
They can barely handle the slew of int'l flights on the 319s of NK right now...they absolutely need more room. Can you imagine a 767 pulling in from Europe at the same time that the Haitians and Dominicans are getting off of their flights with 26 bags? It would be more of a nightmare than it is at 7-8pm in Terminal 4...and most European flights arrive late afternoon and leave near dusk.
Basically, it ain't gonna happen until that situation is improved dramatically.
Fllcontinental From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1966 times:
Could FLL expand past I-95 and have a taxiway built over it? (That would require I-95 to dip under.)
Fllcontinental From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1963 times:
Also, forgot to ask, is there anywhere else on the FLL grounds right now where an international terminal could be built, leaving T4 to NK?
Teme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1944 times:
Quoting John (Reply 6): PBI has a 10,000 foot main runway and the surrounding area has a large German and Finnish population. So why doesn't Finnair, LTU or even Lufthansa fly to PBI?
AY don't fly there because they don't have the planes to fly there and since the pax numbers are too low to start service, thye can go though JFK to HEL. AY's market is in Asia and they are focusing on it strongly.
Jetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 811 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1913 times:
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1898 times:
Quoting John (Reply 6): PBI has a 10,000 foot main runway and the surrounding area has a large German and Finnish population. So why doesn't Finnair, LTU or even Lufthansa fly to PBI?
It could be too much of a low-yield market for LH, plus LH is due to start service to MCO soon, so a separate flight to PBI may overlap LH's new MCO service. As for LT, it may not make sense for them to start service to PBI, since they already operate scheduled flights into nearby RSW from DUS, not to mention the upcoming TXL-MLB charter service.
Fllcontinental From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1893 times:
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 14): As for LT, it may not make sense for them to start service to PBI, since they already operate scheduled flights into nearby RSW from DUS
Correct, and so does LH (although MIA is LH's biggest market in Florida, operated with a 744 out of FRA and seasonally with an A343 out of MUC IIRC, and their upcoming MCO service is due to be operated out of FRA with an A333).
Fllcontinental From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1869 times:
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31156 posts, RR: 76 Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1635 times:
Quoting Fllcontinental (Reply 17):
Remember, AY used to operate Helsinki to MIA and look how that turned out.
It turned out very well, with excellent loads and decent yields, despite being operated as an all-Y flight. The flight was suspended because of aircraft needed to expand in the obviously more profitable Asian market. Finnair tried to operate to Miami with their holiday 757s after that, but that was nowhere near as popular. Finnair will be back to Miami in the future, make no doubt about that, when they have the equipment.
Njdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 713 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1588 times:
What ever happen to the following flights....I know they don't exist anymore but what was the erason behind ending all of them? Can anyone expand on some info on each one's service?
Icelandair to KEF
Condor to FRA
Finnair to HEL
Martinair to AMS back in the 90's
76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1386 times:
Martinair left for two reasons:
- Back then, MIA was served 6 times a week, FLL once (IIRC). Not very efficient. Same reason why TPA was abandoned in favor of MCO.
- Although the runway measures 9000 feet, it can still be too short when a lot of cargo is carried. I remember having to offload quite a bit of cargo there on several occasions. MIA doesn't have that problem thanks to its very long RW09/27.
However, MP-Pax' possible changeover into an intercontinental LCC may open up new possibilities for FL airport looking to attract transatlantic service. MIA and MCO are relatively busy and expensive.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31156 posts, RR: 76 Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1275 times:
Quoting 76er (Reply 20): However, MP-Pax' possible changeover into an intercontinental LCC may open up new possibilities for FL airport looking to attract transatlantic service. MIA and MCO are relatively busy and expensive.
MIA is also a major cargo hub, and Martinair's busiest international outstation. They aren't leaving MIA anytime soon.
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