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Scottish Aviation Thread - July 2007  
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24926 posts, RR: 56
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3779 times:

So folks, latest news from Scotland's airports:

ABERDEEN
BMI Regional dropping the Brussels flight

Eastern Airways starting flights to Stavanger using Saab 2000

FlyGlobespan operting Funchal and Geneva during the winter as well as some Spanish destinations.

Plans have been made to build 2 new hotels at ABZ:
http://www.thisisaberdeen.co.uk/disp...5752&folderPk=85352&pNodeId=148787

HIAL
Inverness AIrport finally have their own radar team. Up until recently, radar control was provided from RAF Lossiemouth.

EDINBURGH
EARL remains a hot topic with regards to EDI.

The airport also had it's busiest ever day last month.

Centralwings have just announced a new service to Poznan, with rumours of an extra route to Szczecin to follow.

GLASGOW
Glasgow news remains fairly quiet following the terrorist attack.

Virgin have been operating a short series through GLA to Orlando. Another series is planned for October. Rumours suggest they'll be back next year with an extended programme.

GLASGOW PRESTWICK
The Antonov 225 was a recent visitor to the airport, whilst cargo also remains a major part of operations at PIK.

Ryanair expansion seems to be dormant although PIK-ORK is rumoured to be announced shortly.

FLYGLOBESPAN
They really should look more carefully at what they are doing. Delays everywhere have meant that this has not been a very good year for GSM. Perhaps they should have concentrated on European services from Scotland rather than go head first into long hauls ops.
GLA-SFB however, appears to be doing well.


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User currently offlineDamian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3766 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
HIAL
Inverness AIrport finally have their own radar team. Up until recently, radar control was provided from RAF Lossiemouth.

Also Flybe has signalled its intention to expand at INV with services to Paris and Amsterdam in 2008, together with a host of UK destinations.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3764 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
FlyGlobespan operting Funchal and Geneva during the winter as well as some Spanish destinations

Other new routes are Prague and Malaga (once weekly against ZB's thrice weekly)

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
HIAL
Inverness AIrport finally have their own radar team. Up until recently, radar control was provided from RAF Lossiemouth.

BE are talking of expanding to MAN/BHX/SOU/CDG/AMS

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
GLASGOW PRESTWICK
The Antonov 225 was a recent visitor to the airport, whilst cargo also remains a major part of operations at PIK.

Ryanair expansion seems to be dormant although PIK-ORK is rumoured to be announced shortly.

Wizz Air have recently announced Katowice and Poznan services



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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3996 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3745 times:

Lufthansa has filed a slot application for DUS-EDI (CRJ).

What is the status of the proposed island PSO-services out of Oban to Tiree etc. A lot of internet services say that the flights were supposed to start in August 07, but this apparently is not going to happen with the contract yet to be awarded (with the only contender appearing to be Highland Airways?). There was also talk back in 2006 that there should be connecting flights from EDI and GLA to Oban - has this idea died quietly?


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24926 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3729 times:

Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 3):
What is the status of the proposed island PSO-services out of Oban to Tiree etc.

Been loads of rumours over on Pprune about that. Not heard much else about it though.

Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 3):
There was also talk back in 2006 that there should be connecting flights from EDI and GLA to Oban - has this idea died quietly?

Probably. Glasgow is well served with regular First Scotrail train services to Queen Street.
Edinburgh, not sure about train services but dunno if there is much demand for a flight...people enjoy driving through the countryside to get to Oban due to Scotland's spectacular scenery  Smile



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8527 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3724 times:
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Quoting Humberside (Reply 2):
BE are talking of expanding to MAN/BHX/SOU/CDG/AMS

- Excellent move, INV is so remote from anything, for me traveling there can be an issue due to lack of flights.



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User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

The extended VS program ex-GLA is definite not a rumour. Including Easter services.

User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3658 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
Centralwings have just announced a new service to Poznan, with rumours of an extra route to Szczecin to follow.

More than rumours, they have applied for slots and with Poznan now announced there must be a good chance Szczecin will join it on sale.

There's quite a lot of confusion over what EZY are doing at EDI for winter as currently the schedule is very sparse with only 3 early morning departures with room for quite a bit more so we'll have to wait and see what they have in store, if anything.

As for GSM, well they're having yet another bad day at EDI today, one look at the BAA arrivals/departures screen will show you that. I think they may have an aircraft tech at PMI.


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3996 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3633 times:

Does anybody know if the Sunday flights from KOI to GLA at 1330 by Loganair and from GLA to LCY at 1550 by Cityflyer are operated with aircraft that sit idle at KOI/GLA before their respective departures? I am considering taking these flights in order to make a conncetion at LCY on a Sunday in October, so some sort of re-assurance that the aircraft operating these two flights will not have been able to build up delays would be appreciated. It is the only chance to get me back from the Orkneys to Germany on a Sunday.

As we are just at it, what islands should I visit from Kirkwall with Loganair - probably Westray is a must - what else (I will only have time for two, maybe three)?


User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

CityFlyer aircraft on the LCY route dont sit idle prior to their flight, they have standard turnarounds during the day but this hasnt prevented the continued cancellation and delays to this particular route, most of the delays at peak hours due to overcrowding at LCY and most of the cancellations off peak due to poor loads. There is unfortunately likely to be delays on this route. There tends to be much more lea-way on the KOI services and the Saabs are based at GLA

[Edited 2007-07-14 19:20:46]

User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3996 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3579 times:

Well, I was wondering about the sunday afternoon service in particular.I am aware that the Avros are busy during the week, but between saturday and sunday noon they cannot operate any services from/to LCY as the airport is closed.

My understanding is that since LCY is closed until sunday noon, there is little work - if any - for Cityflyer's Avros before their first trip down south. If my intelligence is correct, four Avros from EDI and two from GLA are heading down to LCY on sunday afternoons to start services from there on late sunday afternoons. So my theory is that the aircraft operating the 1550 sunday flight GLA-LCY has not done much flying on that day (if any) before this departure. Hence my hope that the flight I am eyeing is less unlikely to be delayed than weekday GLA-LCY flights.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3498 times:

BA Cityflyer do some charters at weekends, so there is a chance your plane could have been doing a morning charter. Someone else may know exactly what charters BA Cityflyer do


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User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

They do PMI from GLA and EDI at weekends.

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24926 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

Quoting BY738 (Reply 12):
They do PMI from GLA and EDI at weekends.

All that way in an RJ100  yuck 



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User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3460 times:

Yes, the BA service would be all that would compensate for cramped suroundings and lack of IFE. Do the RJ100s have leather seating ?

User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

Quoting BY738 (Reply 12):
They do PMI from GLA and EDI at weekends.

Aswell as INN from EDI. Not sure what day the GLA flight operates on but both EDI charters operate on Saturdays so aren't really relevant if Vfw614 is looking to travel on a Sunday. BA Cityflyer always have atleast a couple of aircraft sitting around doing nothing at EDI at the weekend anyway.


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3996 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

On sundays there are only Thomsonfly flights scheduled from GLA to PMI, so my guess is that Cityflyer does the PMI runs on saturdays.

User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 16):
sundays there are only Thomsonfly flights scheduled from GLA to PMI

And GSM and EZY who operate to PMI at the weekends (EZY returns to GLA on Sundays)


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3996 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Yes, you are correct of course. I had only been looking at the non-scheduled carriers / tour operators.

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24926 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

easyJet have announced EDI-Krakow 4 x weekly.

Remember John Smeaton, legend of Glasgow? Well, he's donating half of the money raised to help war veterans, and the rest he's using for a big night out for those who were at GLA when the attack happened.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6904633.stm



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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5134 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Easyjet should be basing an extra A319 in scotland from September, so there should be more route announcements soon. Aircraft is believed to be heading to GLA, but may end up at EDI.


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24926 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3222 times:

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 20):
but may end up at EDI.

Especially if BAA and the RDF lot have anything to do with it  Wink



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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3996 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3217 times:

I have been in contact with Loganair about the "Orkney Adventure Pass" which gave you three inter-island flights for as little as 70 GBP in the past (one confirmed, two stand-by roundtrips). They have informed me that they no longer offer this pass.

User currently offlineYak97 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3202 times:
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Looking at the Dutch Slot Coordination website T3 have applied for slots at AMS from INV - stealing Flybe's thunder?

User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3168 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 21):
Especially if BAA and the RDF lot have anything to do with it

The same RDF that doesnt exist anymore for new routes ?


25 Post contains images Sasha : Thanks for the updates! I spent quite some time in Scotland between 1995 and 2002 around GLA and EDI. I regret didn't get much to PIK to watch - as I
26 Gkirk : Thought that was just for long haul flights?
27 Nighthawk : correct... non EU flights are no longer eligible for RDF funding.
28 Gkirk : FR dropping INV-LPL. Always thought the 738 was too big for an a/c that size...perhaps FlyBe or Eastern may take a look at this route?
29 LH121GLA : Me too. Flybe couldnt make EDI/GLA-LPL work - so I doubt they would attempt INV-LPL. Is there still an EMA-INV? If so, anyone know how that one is go
30 Humberside : Did the same for summer as well And ABZ-LPL
31 Glom : They're going for the BP pax I see. ABZ-NWI and ABZ-SVG are trunk routes for us, connecting between North Sea HQ and Southern North Sea ops and Norwa
32 Gkirk : With T3 entering ABZ-SVG...that means there is now 8 (!) daily flights with 4 different carriers.
33 GLAGAZ : A nice rumour on TWA: NW have applied for rights to operate BOS and DTW to GLA. It was about this time last year that the same rumour cropped up I'm s
34 Post contains links and images Nighthawk : the routes a goldmine... our lot are on the route quite frequently. We also have people travelling to Houston frequently...... its a matter of when,
35 BY738 : And next year, and the next....
36 GLAGAZ : Complying with A.net "provide a source" rules and doing some free advertising at the same time. Nice. Better say something aviation related now... Pl
37 Post contains links Gkirk : Which was originally from BMI At Rotterdam/RTM (by Yak97 Jul 19 2007 in Civil Aviation)
38 BY738 : Meeeoow !
39 Post contains images Gkirk : Got to keep things 100% factual
40 Tonforty : More disruption at Stornoway yesterday due to lack of air traffic controllers. The airport had to close at 4PM due to an ATC being off sick. The late
41 Nighthawk : To be finished for the start of summer season, 2008.
42 Post contains links BMIE70 : Highland Airways have preferred bidder status and are looking to recruit Islander pilots for services from Oban. http://www.highlandairways.co.uk/cgi
43 Post contains links BMIE70 : The upgrade to Connel airfield and the start of the island airlinks to Colonsay and Coll could be delayed due to issues with the fire appliances. http
44 Post contains images Gkirk : Indeed
45 LH121GLA : easyJet have finally announced plans to operate GLA-CDG from the end of October 2007. Regaining a nonstop service GLA-CDG is well overdue - thank you
46 GLAGAZ : Yup, lets hope for a few more in the near future too! Gaz
47 Post contains images Gkirk : Aye, fantastic news about GLA-CDG. Looks like Transavia may be dropping PIK-AMS though And GSM have dropped ABZ-GVA already, due to extremely low book
48 Humberside : GLA-Paris service was long overdue This surprises me because it was ABZ's only ski route. Out of GSM;s winter schedule at ABZ, I would have thought Fu
49 Gkirk : Apparently since it was launched...less than 100 bookings(!)
50 Post contains images Humberside : Dont people in Aberdeen like skiing? Or is it that cold up there they want to escape to somewere warmer?
51 Icebud : What is the situation regarding BA aircraft and crew bases at EDI? Supposedly BA (outside of London) only base smaller teams at MAN and GLA. On a rece
52 ScottishLaddie : BA do have crew based at EDI yes, whether they are dual-based with GLA though, I'm not sure.
53 Gkirk : Why would they need to go abroad for skiing? They live right next door to the biggest skiing area in the UK! Do they? I thought all non London crew b
54 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : BA.... (Cityflyer) Not 100% sure about mainline tbh if they have crew here or just nightstop.
55 Gkirk : Prob nightstop....position up from LHR on a flight at about 5pm or so as non-revvers.
56 Icebud : This was a BA mainline service and crew were all Scottish so presuming that means BA mainline have base here.
57 Post contains images Gkirk : Or that they have crew from Scotland who shuttle down to LHR for their flights
58 Post contains images Joemonster : When was the last time we had a decent ski season with a good deal of snow cover? Most of the ski resorts up north are struggling badly with the warm
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