10 miles offshore with a tunnel or ferries to get you from the coast to the airfield. Check in times, what 4 hours prior to departure? Not an island, rather a floating airfield anchored to the ocean's floor.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4721 posts, RR: 15 Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4707 times:
I didn't realize the plan was submersible! (Very clever thread title -- deliberate or accidental?)
BigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2755 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4693 times:
Quoting SANFan (Reply 1): I didn't realize the plan was submersible! (Very clever thread title -- deliberate or accidental?)
Oh my. No pun intended. I did not plan it that way...
Poitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4681 times:
I wonder who will pay for the tunnel? Who will pay for the floating airfield? Certainly not the good citizens of San Diego or California. Maybe the Martians will come down and install a flying saucer base there and open it up to our aircraft. It is as about as likely to happen.
SkyyMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4658 times:
It'll never happen in a million years. Environmental concerns alone would kill it, not to mention the exorbitant costs. San Diego will probably never get a new airport unless the NIMBY's give in on Mirimar or a joint transborder facility is built with Tijuana, ala Euroairport, and that ain't gonna happen anytime soon either.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4427 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4627 times:
And with the submarine like conning tower amidships, one could be forgiven for expecting it to just as suddenly submerge to periscope depth or dive to the bottom. I'm incessantly amazed at the seemingly unlimited imaginations of those coming up with these ideas. Wonder where they will stake a claim next.
It will be very interesting to see which would prove more impossible, the DoD and the military letting go of Miramar, or getting investors to underwrite this humongous project. As the sayings go, "greed knows no bounds" and "one is born every minute."
RichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4572 times:
And this pops up on here every couple of months. If I recall one of the threads someone placed large fans on the runway to assist with heavy fog. It will never happen in my lifetime.
Gregarious119 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 523 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4411 times:
They have this amazing elaborate ideas, but that website sure does suck. For a proposal this big, they need to get a little better PR firm to make their website look like something better than a 7th grader and some photoshop time could come up with.
DL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4390 times:
that is awesome!!!! i seriously hope they build it by the time i am a pilot because it is sooooo cool!
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4721 posts, RR: 15 Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4377 times:
Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 5): And with the submarine like conning tower amidships, one could be forgiven for expecting it to just as suddenly submerge to periscope depth or dive to the bottom. I'm incessantly amazed at the seemingly unlimited imaginations of those coming up with these ideas.
Actually, this is the perfect answer to a continued airport curfew in San Diego: at 11:29 every night, they fill the ballast tanks and the airport submerges about 5 feet; at 6:30 the next morning, blow the ballast and up she comes -- ready for business... and no more curfew violations. (Of course we might have to rethink the RON situation. )
I hope the creator of this wonderful idea knows how much comedy relief he supplies A.net with!
SANMAN66 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 609 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4302 times:
Highflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4124 times:
Pick a decade and this proposal comes up along with the international airport in Otey Mesa and the civilian/military expansion of Miramar. In the end nothing ever becomes of it and the grandiose idea is buried for another 10 years. The political and environmental obstacles to move an off-shore airport off the drawing boards to fruition are enormous. Moreover, the construction costs are nearly prohibitive. If San Diego were Hong Kong a man made island would be built starting next week. Unfortunately this is the United States where environmentalists will discover a new specie of fish indigenous to coastal Southern California and shut down a project faster than you can say "lawsuit."
The small outdated Lindbergh field will be serving the city for many years to come.
SANMAN66 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 609 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4030 times:
Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 15): Unfortunately this is the United States where environmentalists will discover a new specie of fish indigenous to coastal Southern California and shut down a project faster than you can say "lawsuit."
Poitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3988 times:
So, where's the car parking lot? I looked all over the picture and didn't find it along with hangers for maintenance, fuel farms, and docks for the rich and famous to tie up while they go off to Nice, or wherever for the week.
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 6): I'm waiting for one of the proponents to call the thing "unsinkable"....
They could call it Titanic Airport. Unfortunately most of the the three letter airport codes for the name such as TTN, TNC, TIC, and such are in use, but there is one available code that would be fitting SOS.
SkyyMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3905 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 6): I'm waiting for one of the proponents to call the thing "unsinkable"....
Just like Kansai right! IF (and that's is an enormously huge if) they would consider it, ten miles offshore? It would be cheaper to buy Catalina Island and tow it south level it and call it Chek Lap Kok 2.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4427 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3842 times:
Quoting Poitin (Reply 17): So, where's the car parking lot? I looked all over the picture and didn't find it along with hangers for maintenance, fuel farms, and docks for the rich and famous to tie up while they go off to Nice, or wherever for the week.
Those are all beneath the deck, of course. At both ends of the ramps are aircraft lifts able to carry A380s. The draft of the THING is such that it could accommodate a subsurface, self-contained community. Jetties can be seen at the ends of the floating airport.
SJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3825 times:
Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 19): One question, though. How deep is San Diego Bay?
It wouldn't be in the bay, that's why its called an offshore airport. Where they propose to locate this airport the water would be 1,200 to 3,000 ft/ 400 to 600 meters of water deep according to their website.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4721 posts, RR: 15 Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3804 times:
As soon as this airport is built (in Asia, that is, and towed to the San Diego coast), I will go out and buy a boat or 2, start a marina right off the end of runway 1-thru-36 (they will be able to rotate the thing to match the prevailing winds, right?), and then in 3 years, sue the SDAADSFA (San Diego Airport and Deep Sea Fishing Authority) for noise violations!
San747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4934 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3782 times:
Quoting SANFan (Reply 21): As soon as this airport is built (in Asia, that is, and towed to the San Diego coast), I will go out and buy a boat or 2, start a marina right off the end of runway 1-thru-36 (they will be able to rotate the thing to match the prevailing winds, right?), and then in 3 years, sue the SDAADSFA (San Diego Airport and Deep Sea Fishing Authority) for noise violations!
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How about run a service for us spotters and take us around the floating airport to take shots? I'd lay down a few bucks to do that!
Boeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3750 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 6): I'm waiting for one of the proponents to call the thing "unsinkable"....
You shoudl see their claims of "extensive CAT IIIc 0-0 use by the airlines" in response to the fog/marine layer questions. This airport would be IFR 60% of the time due to the marine layer.
Quoting Gregarious119 (Reply 11): They have this amazing elaborate ideas, but that website sure does suck. For a proposal this big, they need to get a little better PR firm to make their website look like something better than a 7th grader and some photoshop time could come up with.
They need a reality check first. The guy just laid claim on the ocean - like a land claim - and he's a freakin lawyer. WTF????
Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 15): Moreover, the construction costs are nearly prohibitive.
Nah... He wants it built in pieces in China then dragged across the ocean. Chinese Floating Air Force Base maybe? Maybe Miramar really is needed to defend from the Chinese.. LOL
Quoting SkyyMaster (Reply 18): It would be cheaper to buy Catalina Island and tow it south level it and call it Chek Lap Kok 2.
It would be cheaper still to just level Catalina adn move all SOCAL international flights there.
Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 20): It wouldn't be in the bay, that's why its called an offshore airport. Where they propose to locate this airport the water would be 1,200 to 3,000 ft/ 400 to 600 meters of water deep according to their website.
A bit obsene. Where's the tether and what happens if it breaks loose?
RichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3725 times:
Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 19): One question, though. How deep is San Diego Bay
42' just enough to handle the largest Navy ships. It used to be basically a marsh or very shallow waterway that during low tide during the good ol days of wooden ships, they would get stuck. Most everything between Mission bay and San Diego bay is fill used from dredging including SAN. Anyways, enough of the history lesson and as others stated this idea is offshore.
RichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 25, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3710 times:
ah hell, here's an old map. You can see where the river would meander between "false bay" (now Mission Bay after it was dredged) and San Diego bay. SAN is located at the river mouth.
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