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Could Airbus Do A Civilian A400 Freighter?

EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

With the lack of nose loading capability on any airbus freighter, could Airbus consider launching a civilian version of the A400M? I know Boeing is said to be close to a civilian version of the C17, and I assume that the A400 would have lower operating costs.

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EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

On further investigation, it appears that Airbus is looking at marketing the aircraft as a civil version.

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Airbus officials suggest a growing interest among air freight operators in the high-wing, four engine turboprop utility military aircraft. The order book for the A400M last month stood at 192 aircraft from nine European military customers since the program was launched in May 2003.

http://www.aircargoworld.com/features/0607_4.htm

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http://www.aircargoworld.com/Graphics/month/40ACWD0607.pdf

AA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13975 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

I was just about the cite the previous month of Air Cargo World. [see above]

They may do it, but I cannot imagine many airlines getting it-perhaps some of the Middle-East airlines-maybe to replace the IL76?

Go big or go home

Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3590 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1601 times:

The unavoidable Mr. Aboulafia of TEAL has made his comments on the issue already..... There is no escaping him Smile

MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4724 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1521 times:

Military aircraft are so overdesigned that they are rarely successful commercially. Lockheed's L-100 version of the military C-130 sold in small numbers (slightly more than 100?); and it's doubtful whether Lockheed made much or any money on it.

EADS A-400M is selling only in small numbers anyway, so even a relatively modest sale of a commercial version might be worth it to them. If a commercial version is priced only to cover discrete development and direct manufacturing costs, it might be worth it to EADS.

Consilivm: Cave ne nothi te vexant

PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7768 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1509 times:

It would be a very small market at best and as long as Russian / Ukrainian build aircraft are available for a fraction of the cost AB or Boeing would need, the chances are very slim.

At the recent Air Cargo Europe in Munich, Boeing had a stand featuring all present cargo aircraft.No C-17 model there.

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