Asuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2369 posts, RR: 3 Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4183 times:
"WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--MAXjet Airways, the award-winning low-fare all Business Class airline, has applied on July 16, 2007 for U.S. authority to operate nonstop passenger service between Shanghai, China and Seattle/Tacoma International Airport, with continuing same-plane service to Los Angeles. MAXjet proposes to operate this service daily effective March 25, 2009.
MAXjet's proposed service to China would be its first transpacific route. MAXjet would operate the proposed service with Boeing 767-200ER aircraft already in its fleet. These aircraft are configured with 92 Business Class seats, crew rest facilities and extra lavatories for long-haul flying. There are no Economy Class seats on the aircraft."
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4140 times:
I wonder if and at what price they will market SEA-LAX - since they are a US carrier.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4083 times:
Good luck with that. The would be a political nightmare, offering a limited slot authority to an "elite only" airline, at least that's how the majors can paint it to the public....
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26723 posts, RR: 83 Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4041 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2): Good luck with that. The would be a political nightmare, offering a limited slot authority to an "elite only" airline, at least that's how the majors can paint it to the public....
Aye. UA and NW (especially) will fight that one tooth and nail.
SEA is far more likely to get China service from Chinese flag carriers, who have multiple unused slots available to them.
717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4013 times:
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 1): wonder if and at what price they will market SEA-LAX - since they are a US carrier
I would fly on a biz class configed 762ER to or from LA hands down over a cramped AS 739 anyday!
LN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1896 posts, RR: 15 Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3873 times:
They'll never get it due to the limited market offer, but it's good PR. I'd be very, very surprised if they get it - and so would MaxJet.
AA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13975 posts, RR: 59 Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3857 times:
United777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1648 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3842 times:
This is a surprise!! I wish NW appled for SEA to China. I think Seattle needs a link to China and is the most underserved airport for Asian routes. I know many people working with IT companies around the northwest who travel to China often from Seattle and need to transfer in Tokyo or Seoul and would love to just fly non-stop.
If SEA doesn't get a link to Shanghai it at least for needs a link to Hong Kong.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3420 times:
Quoting Keesje (Reply 9): Curious what a no-nonsense business class will do against JAL, CX, SQ and China Southern..
They could fly to NRT now and we could find out...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
ThirteenRight From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 340 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3149 times:
Quoting Keesje (Reply 9): I liked Maxjet´s strategy from the start.
Relatively cheap aircraft, acceptable business class (60 inch) with all the basics ok for economy+ fares..
Curious what a no-nonsense business class will do against JAL, CX, SQ and China Southern..
I do too, but I wish MY had aircraft that were reliable.
Jetboy319 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3051 times:
The only reason i can see a stop at SEA before the onward journey to PVG is because the 762 probably couldn't do LAX-PVG non-stop. I would be more than surprised if they were awarded the slot. My 2 cents
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WJ From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2977 times:
Maxjet really needs to start worrying about their existing service which they cancel left and right on a regular basis, before trying to venture out into something they have no shot in getting.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2828 times:
Quoting Jetboy319 (Reply 12): The only reason i can see a stop at SEA before the onward journey to PVG is because the 762 probably couldn't do LAX-PVG non-stop
Unless their models are lower gross weight, the aircraft can do the route, particularly in MaxJet's configuration
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FlyingDoctorWu From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 307 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2655 times:
It would be great to see SEA have non-stop service to China. though, we do have convenient connections to all of asia vie either NRT, TPE, or ICN....
LN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1896 posts, RR: 15 Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2601 times:
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8267 posts, RR: 56 Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2523 times:
Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 8): wow, a real surprise, IMHO, I dont think for one minute they have a cat in hells chance of getting it but kudos to them for applying
- Agreed!
Well done, whilst unlikely to get awarded the route, it shows forward thinking and I'm sure if they did get it would put the cat among the pigeons!
Jetboy319 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2361 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 14): Unless their models are lower gross weight
Which I assume they are. With a 767-200 seating around 100 pax, it wouldn't have made sense for them to purchase a high operating weight certificate for their planes. IMHO, SEA would be included in the LAX-PVG route as a fuel stop.
Flighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 7451 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2348 times:
Quoting Jetboy319 (Reply 18): IMHO, SEA would be included in the LAX-PVG route as a fuel stop.
You don't think SEA has a huge amount J class demand to Shanghai? I do.
But I agree, their jets may not be able to fly LAX-PVG, although it is hard to say. Very light payload.
Skyexramper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2317 times:
Quoting Flighty (Reply 19): You don't think SEA has a huge amount J class demand to Shanghai? I do.
I would like to see MaxJet fly this route, I think that by being the first airline of their kind, that they will find a way. Also the China market for Vancouver and western Canada is projected to increase at a healthy rate over the next 10 years. Since MaxJet is out to sell reduced Biz Class fares, they will do well. The problems they are facing is because they are still a small airline.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
LN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1896 posts, RR: 15 Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2204 times:
Quoting Jetboy319 (Reply 18): IMHO, SEA would be included in the LAX-PVG route as a fuel stop.
STN (51°53'06"N 00°14'06"E) LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'26"W) 312° (NW) 5459 mi
SEA (47°26'56"N 122°18'34"W) PVG (31°08'36"N 121°48'19"E) 309° (NW) 5722 mi
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'26"W) PVG (31°08'36"N 121°48'19"E) 311° (NW) 6485 mi
max range for 767-200ER .. fully loaded .. 7618 mi .. with 100 pax? A lot more.
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25 WAH64D: A good analysis but keep in mind that although the aircraft is unlikely to be limited by MTOW it will be limited by the physical amount of fuel it is
26 Jetboy319: I never said that. While I don't know the exact numbers, I would agree there is a considerable demand for J class to Shanghai. That's why SEA would b
27 SkyexRamper: They better press to get approval to be able to sell tickets for just the LAX-SEA leg, it would make better sense financially.
28 WAH64D: If you think about it, it makes less sense financially. This suggests to me that LAX-SEA service is a secondary consideration. The fuel stop and abil
29 Flighty: There are ways to handle this issue. Major airlines do it all the time. Money is money. They will sell LAX-SEA if they are confident it will not hurt
30 SkyexRamper: If the flight from LAX-SEA isn't full with people going onto PVG, that is lost revenue. They could very easliy have sold tickets for people who just
31 N1120A: Also according to Boeing, JFK-PEK is considered a typical city pair, which factors in for headwinds and configuration. That is longer than LAX-PVG Th
32 WAH64D: Isn't there an issue with slots out of LAX for domestic flights though? Its definitely better to fill the plane. Its just a careful juggling act base
33 N1120A: No. There are absolutely no slot controls at LAX.
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