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B6: What Is The Future For TPA/MCO?  
User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1982 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5109 times:
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Been looking for places I might want to move to St. Petersburg, FL might be one of them. Not that it makes any difference where exactly I'm going, but anyone have any idea of what the future holds for Tampa and Orlando? If I'm flying to the west coast, I'd prefer not to have to connect in JFK.


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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1353 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

I'm not sure if I follow your question correctly, but I think you are asking about if B6 may start up TPA/MCO-West Coast flying. Being that MCO-BUR on B6 was not a success, I do not think either cities would see much West Coast flying. If you do plan on moving to St. Pete, I hope you enjoy DL or WN.

User currently offlineAzul320 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4933 times:

I wouldn't rule out an LGB/OAK-MCO


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4919 times:

DL flies non-stop TPA-LAX. I think WN does as well.

And of course AA, CO, NW, US, etc. all have "right direction" hubs to connect through.

St. Petersburg is not close to MCO, so not sure why that is part of the equation.



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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2010 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
DL flies non-stop TPA-LAX. I think WN does as well.

Yep, and DL flies MCO-LAX, and so do UA and AA.



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User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1982 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4871 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
St. Petersburg is not close to MCO, so not sure why that is part of the equation.

Because I'm not exactly sure it will be St. Pete, it might be East Tampa Metro as well (aka Lakeland, Brandon),

Also being that I asked about Jetblue, I don't know why this has turned into a discussion on what DL, US, NW, UA, etc. The only carrier that I would consider using out of those would be DL and that would only be via ATL (where I could pickup their new long haul product) or eventually a long haul such as TPA-LAX, TPA-SLC after they have finished rolling out the LHP on all flights over 4 hours.

Guess I could also do Frontier they fly TPA-DEN.



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User currently offlineLogos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 793 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 5):
I don't know why this has turned into a discussion on what DL, US, NW, UA, etc.

Folks are just trying to lay out your options if you happen to move there. You seem to be pretty particular about where you get your air service. Personally, I tend to lean on schedule and price, but, hey that's me.

I would agree with the others who are saying that B6 from Florida-West Coast is a remote (and well into the future) possibility, if that plays such a large role in your decision to relocate. Though I'm an aviation enthusiast (that's why I'm here), I sure wouldn't put availability of a particular airline's service among the factors that determines whether I take a job in a certain place.

Cheers,
Dave in Orlando



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User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1982 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4754 times:
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Quoting Logos (Reply 6):
Folks are just trying to lay out your options if you happen to move there. You seem to be pretty particular about where you get your air service. Personally, I tend to lean on schedule and price, but, hey that's me.

Well, I am. I actually value getting more for my money when I fly. When it comes to domestic flying most airlines are the same but there are a few that offer added benefits.
(Ranked in order of preferred airline)

B6 offers more legroom in coach (up to 5" inches more), Live TV, and XM Radio (on some flights), and soon email/txt msg

DL (the new domestic long haul product) offers up to 3" more legroom and Live TV

F9 offers Live TV and soon email/test msg (legroom on F9 is questionable, new thinner seats may give F9 more comfortable legroom than the average airline)

WN offers up to 3" more legroom

CO offers "Meals at Mealtime" which may not necessarily be a meal but more than you would get on the average flight.



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5413 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 7):
Well, I am. I actually value getting more for my money when I fly.

I fly every single week out of TPA, on multiple legs, to various places, and have done for the past 15 years. I never include one particular airline as the reason for living in the TPA area.

How often are you going to fly?
Are you flying to the same places?

If it's not that often, then it certainly shouldn't be a big factor about who flies where. If you fly every week, or frequently, you'll soon become elite on any of the airlines you choose, get almost guaranteed exit rows, if not upgraded to F/C.

If you are flying to different places, not only would I not suggest it, I'd say it's foolish to make the decision based on one airline. If I fly to ATL, I fly Airtran or DL.. Charlotte or PHL, it's US..JFK, it's jetBlue, LGW it's BA.

What flies at TPA today, isn't what'll be flying there in 5 years time, and no one can predict it.

jimbo



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User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1982 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4722 times:
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Quoting Bond007 (Reply 8):
I never include one particular airline as the reason for living in the TPA area.

Neither do I but I want to move, I'm looking into places I can transfer to in my company, and If 2 places are pretty much the same as to Salary/Quality of Life/Crime, etc. Then what airlines fly there might come into the picture. If airline was my biggest factor in where I live, I'd stick here and move closer to JFK for B6 but thats not it.

[Edited 2007-07-18 15:34:04]


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5413 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 9):
Then what airlines fly there might come into the picture.

Then I would simply look at where you want to fly, and see who flies there, but remember things change quickly in the airline industry. If you want to fly to LAX frequently, and MCO has more flights than TPA, then perhaps that is the deciding factor. I see it being a big factor if you were choosing between say TPA and RSW, but it's less of an issue between TPA and MCO. Depending on where you live of course, both aiports might be an option - if you live on the East side of TPA, or W of MCO.

You probably won't find all things equal between the MCO and TPA areas. I'm sure you have a combination of better schools, house prices, area .. remembering St.Pete is on the water also, and MCO area is not ... might be big factor, and certainly is in house prices.

It'd be bad to move to an area basing your decision on twice daily LAX flights - only to see them disappear in 3 years time.

Good Luck  Smile


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User currently offlineSkyyMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4654 times:

JerseyGuy, to me you really seem to be contradicting yourself here. First you want to know what B6 is going to do as far as MCO/TPA and the west coast. When people chime in with other options, you state you only wanted to know about that one airline. Yet in subsequent posts, you start comparing the airlines and from what I see, not a terrible lot of difference in any of them, sans the IFE (which I think is highly over-rated...doesn't anyone READ anymore on planes???). As another poster pointed out, just because airline X flies a route today, that does not mean it will this time next year. I, like many others, do not limit myself to a single airline domestically. Especially when I am flying on my own dime. If you are that loyal to B6, plan on extra time and making those cnx at JFK you say you wish to avoid.

User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1098 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4640 times:

At the risk of getting flamed by the OP, FL flies MCO-SAN direct.  Smile


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User currently offlineMtb555 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Thread starter):
If I'm flying to the west coast, I'd prefer not to have to connect in JFK.

Most of the announcements for new routes haven't paid much attention to Florida, with the exception of the recent BUF and SYR-FLL routes. As phatfarmlines said, MCO-BUR was unsuccessful, and the only westbound routes out of Florida are FLL-OAK and FLL-LGB. From MCO, you can fly into IAD and connect to OAK, SAN, and LGB rather than going up to JFK (not a huge time save there,but it's an option). But if it's another city you're trying to reach, afraid you'll have to run through JFK if you want to stay on B6, since every city they fly to operates out of JFK.

Hope this helps.  Cool


User currently offlineGoBlue From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

If they were to consistantly connect florida to a west coast city with connections. IE LGB, or SLC as it begins to grow. They could make the FL-West Coast more acceptable. But right now at one flight a day or whatever it is between FLL and A few stations out west, how many destinations can they really offer, and what connections can they make

User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4248 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4588 times:

Quoting Mtb555 (Reply 13):
But if it's another city you're trying to reach, afraid you'll have to run through JFK if you want to stay on B6, since every city they fly to operates out of JFK.

That's not entirely true. In theory, you could fly MCO-IAD and then IAD-SAN/LGB/OAK on JetBlue. I don't know how well the schedules line up though.

But with so many options on JetBlue and the other carriers mentioned, why is this an issue?



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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
DL flies non-stop TPA-LAX. I think WN does as well.

And of course AA, CO, NW, US, etc. all have "right direction" hubs to connect through.

Actually UA and AA have direct flights also to, and don't be surprised if Southwest does so too soon... but he was asking about Jet Blue

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
St. Petersburg is not close to MCO, so not sure why that is part of the equation.

Sure it is. People drive from as far as Sarasota and Jacksonville to catch certain flights out of MCO - both of them are further than St. Pete.

Once B6 gets through its problems, I think it is going to build up at MCO. They built the Jet Blue offices at MCO and they have been wanting to expand more and more at MCO, so yes I think there will be some west coast flights again.


User currently offlineCalags From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

DL flies to TPA-LAX twice daily and depending on season you get either a 757-200 (oftentimes with the Song IFE) or a 737-800 that hasn't been upgraded to the new transcon product yet.

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5413 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 16):
Sure it is. People drive from as far as Sarasota and Jacksonville to catch certain flights out of MCO

Well, no, St.Pete is not close to MCO. It's a 90min-2hr drive depending on where you live. TPA is just across the bay, so there is almost no reason to drive from St. Pete to MCO unless for some odd international flight. As a very frequent flyer, I've only ever flown into MCO once ... and that was due to a TPA cancellation.

Most people would be crazy to drive 200 miles from JAX to MCO, when JAX has plenty of flights. Sarasota is a 2hr drive, when you have TPA less than an hour away. It would have to be an odd flight to drive that far and bypass TPA.


Jimbo



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User currently offlineMtb555 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4567 times:

Quoting Richierich (Reply 15):
That's not entirely true. In theory, you could fly MCO-IAD and then IAD-SAN/LGB/OAK on JetBlue. I don't know how well the schedules line up though.



Quoting Mtb555 (Reply 13):
From MCO, you can fly into IAD and connect to OAK, SAN, and LGB rather than going up to JFK (not a huge time save there,but it's an option

That was in my original post, no problem, though. It is an option.


User currently offlineInTheSky74 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

I don't think you'll see MCO to the west coast anytime soon again. They could try OAK, but I doubt it after the disaster of BUR.

You definitely won't see TPA to the west coast anytime soon. MCO will happen before TPA.


User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1982 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4379 times:
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Quoting SkyyMaster (Reply 11):
comparing the airlines and from what I see, not a terrible lot of difference in any of them, sans the IFE (which I think is highly over-rated...doesn't anyone READ anymore on planes???).

Anyone read anymore? NO. As for not a terrible difference. I guess you must either fly F all the time or your 5'5 160lbs, people who are 6'0 and up, value extra legroom. I guess your a canidate for skybus (29" pitch), then?

Quoting GoBlue (Reply 14):
If they were to consistantly connect florida to a west coast city with connections. IE LGB, or SLC as it begins to grow. They could make the FL-West Coast more acceptable. But right now at one flight a day or whatever it is between FLL and A few stations out west, how many destinations can they really offer, and what connections can they make

This is why they need the Midwest hub we keep hearing rumored about. TPA-STL-OAK is alot better than TPA-JFK-OAK.



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User currently offlineSkyyMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 21):
Anyone read anymore? NO. As for not a terrible difference. I guess you must either fly F all the time or your 5'5 160lbs, people who are 6'0 and up, value extra legroom. I guess your a canidate for skybus (29" pitch), then?

Actually, I rarely fly F. I'm 6'2" and 185, and I'm not whining about legroom. Two of my last three flights on B6 (not my choice - company policy), my IFE didn't even work. Even if it did, the offering aren't all that impressive. So. YES, people (meaning me) DO read when flying. Try it, it might expand your mind. As for Skybus, I doubt they will be around long enough to ever get remotely close to my BNA base, so let's not worry about that shall we?


User currently offlineWepaman From Puerto Rico, joined Nov 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

Quoting SkyyMaster (Reply 22):
Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 21):
Anyone read anymore? NO. As for not a terrible difference. I guess you must either fly F all the time or your 5'5 160lbs, people who are 6'0 and up, value extra legroom. I guess your a canidate for skybus (29" pitch), then?

Actually, I rarely fly F. I'm 6'2" and 185, and I'm not whining about legroom. Two of my last three flights on B6 (not my choice - company policy), my IFE didn't even work. Even if it did, the offering aren't all that impressive. So. YES, people (meaning me) DO read when flying. Try it, it might expand your mind. As for Skybus, I doubt they will be around long enough to ever get remotely close to my BNA base, so let's not worry about that shall we?

I do Agree with you JerseyGuy, the IFE is free for B6 exept for the Fox Ent. channel 42 and 43... neverless I am base in MCO and is nice to see a person reading a BOOK and not the news with the headlines about a Burning A320 out in CGH, also is very welcome not to hear screaming toddlers or have them climing or hiting the the Back of the seat... Ammmmen

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