AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10054 times:
DeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8626 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9887 times:
SLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3869 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9567 times:
While most of these 752s will be used for JFK-Europe, what are the chances of seeing a SLC-LAX-KOA route by sometime next year once these get up to 180 minute ETOPs?
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DALOCCDtyDrctr From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9454 times:
Pbiflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 185 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9416 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 1): Is this one of the 752's that was in the desert?
Came from AA maintenace in Ft. Worth. The first 752 flew from Ft. Worth to Lake City, FL on Monday. So DL has the first two 752's from AA in their possession. I don't know what kind of work will be done in Lake City, but DL and UA both have work done at that airport.
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5819 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9026 times:
Bucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8700 times:
Quoting GlobalATL (Reply 13): I still believe these 757s are JFK based. So, what sense does it make for DL to scatter them around the system for west coast flying?
aircraft at Delta are not based anywhere. Crews have bases....aircraft do not. They are used where they are needed, and may or may not go back to the same airport on a regular basis.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 8632 times:
Quoting Bucky707 (Reply 14):
aircraft at Delta are not based anywhere. Crews have bases....aircraft do not. They are used where they are needed, and may or may not go back to the same airport on a regular basis.
Your point is understood......but: the ex-TW/AA 752s that are being added to the DL fleet will be (1) ETOPS qualified unlike DL's existing 757 fleet and (2) equipped with a BizElite style premium cabin. Thus, the ex-TW/AA airplanes will be a unique subfleet at DL.
I asked a similiar question a few weeks ago.....after DL has received the 10 (or 13, depending upon who you ask) ex-TW/AA 752s, will their missions be primarily JFK-Europe with an occassional turn to ATL for maintainance visits, or will this subfleet fly a variety of missions, say a transcon or JFK-Florida turn inbetween flights to/from Europe? (I never asked about SLC-Hawaii routes.) The answer that I received from some DL experts is that, for the time being, the ex-TW/AA 752s will primarily fly JFK-Europe routes and may pay a visit to ATL every now and then.
Jbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 509 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 8603 times:
Quoting GlobalATL (Reply 13): I still believe these 757s are JFK based. So, what sense does it make for DL to scatter them around the system for west coast flying?
In between intl flights I could easily see these birds making JFK - LAX/SEA/SFO turns based on having the BE configuration and IFE for business passengers, and for a competititive edge over Jetblue and the likes.
Alitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4670 posts, RR: 45 Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 8604 times:
Quoting Bucky707 (Reply 14): aircraft at Delta are not based anywhere. Crews have bases....aircraft do not. They are used where they are needed, and may or may not go back to the same airport on a regular basis.
Bucky - while the majority of a/c aren't "based" at any particular airport, there are a few exceptions...the 777s come to mind, with all eight being based out of ATL at all times and only connecting through another city either on the trip, or mid-trip (ATL-JFK-BOM-JFK-ATL).
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 15): I asked a similiar question a few weeks ago.....after DL has received the 10 (or 13, depending upon who you ask) ex-TW/AA 752s, will their missions be primarily JFK-Europe with an occassional turn to ATL for maintainance visits, or will this subfleet fly a variety of missions, say a transcon or JFK-Florida turn inbetween flights to/from Europe? (I never asked about SLC-Hawaii routes.) The answer that I received from some DL experts is that, for the time being, the ex-TW/AA 752s will primarily fly JFK-Europe routes and may pay a visit to ATL every now and then.
They are being acquired to help right-size some TATL markets where the 76 is too much bird but there is no other gauge to serve with. While (as happens with every airline), you may see them rotate through some outstations in between TATL flights, these birds will most likely spend the majority of their time (at least initially) rotating through JFK with the trip to ATL for work as needed...
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11990 posts, RR: 36 Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 8540 times:
The only firm route I've heard about so far is JFK-Edinburgh (the ATL-EDI having been scrapped recently); any others confirmed? I assume JFK-SNN is a strong possibility?
Papatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 8497 times:
Documents filed with the BK11 court stated these aircraft would be delivered to Delta in Delta's livery how come this second aircraft and I assume the first aircraft are not painted in Delta's livery and are still in the AA livery minus the red strip etc
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 8464 times:
Quoting Papatango (Reply 20): Documents filed with the BK11 court stated these aircraft would be delivered to Delta in Delta's livery how come this second aircraft and I assume the first aircraft are not painted in Delta's livery and are still in the AA livery minus the red strip etc
While the airplane was seen at ATL, we really dont know if the airplane has yet to be ""officially delivered"" to Delta.....the airplanes are owned by leasing companies and there is no conifirmation that DL is in legal posession of the airplane. Just because the airplane is parked in AA does not mean it now belongs to DL.
PilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8153 times:
Pardon my ignorance, but I have always wondered, and this is a good opportunity to ask this, but why do airlines conceal their logos and color schemes? Copyrights or confusion? That was a waste of money to throw on that blue stripe wasn't it?
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8086 times:
Quoting PilotNTrng (Reply 22): Pardon my ignorance, but I have always wondered, and this is a good opportunity to ask this, but why do airlines conceal their logos and color schemes? Copyrights or confusion? That was a waste of money to throw on that blue stripe wasn't it?
When an airplane is damaged or sometimes when an airplane is put into ""open-storage"" in the desert, the airline will remove it titles and sometimes will slightly alter its livery. Why? Its not great public relations to have out-of-use or damaged airplanes displaying the companies colors.
DLBOIFIN From Finland, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 162 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8054 times:
Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 17): Bucky - while the majority of a/c aren't "based" at any particular airport, there are a few exceptions...the 777s come to mind, with all eight being based out of ATL at all times and only connecting through another city either on the trip, or mid-trip (ATL-JFK-BOM-JFK-ATL)
There is another sub-fleet of aircraft at DL which is also based in ATL and that is 767-300ER (G), the former Gulf Air aircraft that are at the moment flying from ATL to CPH, DUB, DUS, FRA, SCL and STR. You don't see these in JFK for example.
25 Kaitak: Would this be because they're GE powered and it makes sense to keep them in ATL, keeping the PW powered acft for JFK?
26 GlobalATL: Dang, I didn't know DLs "762s" (relax guys, I'm referring to the Gulf Air's 763s that DLs flying around....LOL) are GE powered.
27 SESGDL: DL's GE and PW powered 763s serve JFK, ATL, and CVG on transatlantic flights. It's not uncommon to see a PW powered 763 on a route one day, and a GE
28 DTWAGENT: My wife and I are flying on one of the B757's from MCO to ATL on Sept 24 that has not first class but BusinessElite on it. This will give me a chance
29 Dutchjet: Aside from the ex-Gulf Air 763ERs, there are other Delta 763A and 763ER airplanes equipped with GE engines...and, the entire 764ER fleet is GE powere
30 Cancidas: that just makes it more obvious where the bird came from. there were 4 722s parked at KSWF a few years back, the blue paint was most likely krylon...
31 DAL767400ER: Fully agreed. With all the hundreds of 727s, DC-10s, MD-11s, F-100s, MD-80/90s sitting on the ground at places like MHV, VCV, or wherever, the double
32 Panamair: As Jim Whitehurst mentioned on today's earnings conf call, these 752s started arriving on the property on Monday July 16. Except for JFK-SNN starting
33 PilotNTrng: Aren't most storage facilities in the middle of the desert and generally closed to the public, unless you are an A.net photographer ?
34 Dutchjet: The airplanes at storage facilities can be viewed from the perimeter of the facilities........also airplanes are sometimes stored at commerical airpo
35 WorldTraveler: B6 doesn't have a BE product. DL's domestic first class with AVOD is more competitive than what AA offers for IFE - seat is more BE related. At any r
36 FlagshipAZ: Slightly off topic here, but is Delta taking TWA's own 757-231s or the -2Q8s? Perhaps a mix of both? TWA operated 27 752s.....17 of their -231s and 10
37 GeorgeJetson: "Fly, baby, fly!" -- Charlton Heston as Alan Murdock in Airport 1975 It certainly makes sense for Delta to acquire ex-TWA 757s since they are P&W-pow
38 WN230: With the new IFE improvements, it would be nice to see how DL's service compares to UA's ps service on JFK-LAX/SFO. WN230
39 GeorgeJetson: It's a Boeing 757-2Q8. According to the FAA Registry at http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...=703TW&cmndfind.x=23&cmndfind.y=11 it currently belong
40 Dl757md: The 90s ARE based in SLC. Every 90 goes through SLC every day unless it needs to go to ATL for MX that we can't accomplish in SLC. Half the fleet ove
41 1337Delta764: Delta was also in negotiations to lease three 757-231s via Pegasus Aviation. What is the status on these?
42 Papatango: Per Delta's webcast on 7/18/07 there are 13 757-200's coming onboard now thru early 2008. Now that we known the number of 757's what routes will they
43 CV880: That's just a continuation of a 763 into ATL, equipment changed to a 757/domestic from ATL-MCO. It's still the standard domestic configuration unless
44 Evan767: ......and? I missed the webcast, is there anyway I can still see/hear it?
45 DeltaL1011man: will DL still lease these birds or are they buying them?
46 DAL767400ER: During the low season, I'd say JFK-DUB/MAN on 757s is almost guaranteed, though during summer they might revert back to 763s depending on demand obvi
47 1337Delta764: They are being leased. Currently confirmed are 10 aircraft being leased via ILFC. There are three more additional aircraft being leased via Pegasus A
48 EA772LR: Yah but your plane ticket will cost you probably 3-5 times more than JetBlue
49 Jbmitt: Thats fine with me, I like being able to connect internationally, fly to an airport near my parents, and interline when necessary.
50 UN_B732: I'd say JFK-FRA is possible with the 752. Since they dropped the BOM tag-on, that route has really been hurting for loads. -A
51 Panamair: As mentioned on the webcast, except for JFK-SNN in September, all 752s being delivered will be flown domestically first; they will only be deployed o
52 Papatango: I believe they are to be delivered jan/feb 2008
53 WorldTraveler: DL's webcasts like most public companies can be found on their website under Investor Relations and Webcasts. Investor relations is under About Delta
54 WesternA318: Just out of curiosity: What MX do the -90's go through outside of SLC? C/D checks?
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