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User currently offlineAcvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 11
Posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

If you are planning on using FF miles to Hawaii take note

United - cancelled ORD-HNL
Delta - Cancelled ATL-HNL and DFW-HNL
Northwest - About to cancel LAX-HNL

Only TWA has increased service this year.

LAX-KOA
STL-OGG
and a second STL-HNL during peak.

In short if you have miles and want the trip fly now or pay cash on another carrier. (Unless you are a TWA FF member)

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User currently offlineSEVEN_FIFTY7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 957 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1198 times:

And also Continental is supposed to be downgrading to a 757 from LAX to HNL (or so I read in another post).

Question: What's with all this simultaneous reduction in service to Hawaii? Non-rev travel was already risky. Now it's going to be next to impossible!

Yield can't be that THAT bad. Or can it?


User currently offlineScooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1168 times:

NW dropping LAX-HNL???? Wow - I'll beleive that when I see it...

User currently offlineAcvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1135 times:

I heard rumor of the CO moves but, had not seen the press release.

The big problem with HNL and Hawaii in general. Frequent Flyer award tickets. It is the #1 award destination. Airlines tend to be forcussing on revenue and really do not care about the FF awards.

Hence Hawaii is a disappearing market. You should have seen how many flights there were in the 70s and 80s. Many many more.

Al


User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1115 times:

AA still has 2 flights a day DFW-HNL, 1 flight a day ORD-HNL, and at least 1 flight a day from LAX, SJC, and SFO to HNL. HP has at least 1 flight from PHX(?) to HNL.

I believe UA will eventually resume some sort of ORD-HNL service, and I also think DL will resume DFW-HNL service.

I thought DL still had ATL-DFW-HNL service. When did they drop it?




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User currently offlineNWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1106 times:

Actually Al, NW has increased service to HNL this year by making MSP-HNL a year-round flight. The flight will operate with a 747-200 in the winter/fall months, and a DC-10 in the spring/summer months.

I'll say the same thing that Scooter said...I'll believe NW cutting LAX-HNL when I see it. Maybe they'll cut one of the flights, but I don't see Northwest dropping both daily flights like that. What's your source, AC?

NWA Man



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User currently offlineAcvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1094 times:

Source was a corporate communication citing the need to reallocate the aircraft.

Al


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1065 times:

Actually, UA is increasing service to Hawaii...not just TWA. Look for the third daily SFO-OGG flight to begin operations just as soon as ORD-HNL flies its last trip.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1060 times:

Contrails,

AFAIK, HP doesn't service HNL. Not with their own aircraft, that is.

Michael


User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1036 times:

HP no longer serves Hawaii. DL DFW-HNL with a DC10 was cut come months ago. I remember reading a rather long FAQ to frequent fliers regarding the service reduction. I also however had not heard NW cutting LAX service.

All this reduction however, raises the question of whether paper airline TransPacific has a legitimate business plan: fly older DC10s from HNL to SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX, and SAN and couple cheap flights with hotel rooms in a package format. If they can keep their costs very low, well there will always be demand to get to Hawaii.

Lets see TW LAX-HNL/LIH soon!!


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1009 times:

A little heads up for Hawaii-

As of April 1, 2001, look for all 777 flights (with the exception of one SFO-HNL flight) to be replaced by 767-300's.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 995 times:

The move to swap the hawaii flights from a 777 to a 767 is a good move because people want frequency over capacity. Smaller planes more often is the way to go.

User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 986 times:

The 777 for 767 swap would be good as far as frequency over capacity...but there are no additional flights...So much for that one...

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineRipcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1126 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 991 times:

AA added service as well DFW-OGG along with 2 DFW-HNl a SJC-HNL and will add SJC-OGG along with all their regular flights

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