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Ryanair Network Changes  
User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9318 times:

Some Ryanair network changes:

New routes:

Bergamo-Lamezia
Bremen-Budapest
Charleroi-Pau
Dublin-Skavsta
Girona-Basel, Brno, Linz, Poznan
Stansted-Billund
Marseille-Fez, Marrakesh

Cancelled:

Dublin-Vasteras
Hahn-Wroclaw
Liverpool-Aberdeen,Inverness,Kaunas
Madrid-Malmo
Marseille-Malmo
Stansted-Esjberg,Malmo

Now seasonal:

Bergamo-Vallaloid
Dublin-Grenoble,Hamburg,Porto,Biarritz
Stansted-Poitiers,Genoa

http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0719/ryanair.html

[Edited 2007-07-19 13:31:02]

[Edited 2007-07-19 13:32:04]


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9293 times:

Excellent about the new routes, particularly a third route to BUD and two more routes to Morocco. (Don't forget that MRS-RAK and MRS-FEZ were announced many months ago but then had to be cut.)

It's also good that BRQ - Czech's second-largest city (city pop. 398,000, metro area 730,000) - FINALLY gets another route.

I'm somewhat surprised that three routes to/from MMX will be cancelled: MMX is a large city itself (258,000, so Sweden's third-largest), MMX has a large metro area (605,000), and is only 1 hour away from CPH. Moreover, at one point FR flew thrice-daily STN-MMX. Nevertheless, modifications occur.

Quoting Teahan (Thread starter):
Dublin-Grenoble,Hamburg,Porto,Biarritz

Isn't GNB more of a winter destination? Who'd thought that GNB has a metro area of 514,000?

[Edited 2007-07-19 13:33:00]


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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9268 times:

Pe@rson. I've edited my post. It's a summer cancellation.


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User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9248 times:

I'm surprised with the cancellation of the MMX service from MAD. Loads seemed to be good.


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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9240 times:

I'm not purprised about LPL-INV, nor will I be surprised to hear of the cutting EMA-INV, which I can see happening.

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5204 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9231 times:

Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 3):
I'm surprised with the cancellation of the MMX service from MAD. Loads seemed to be good.

Could be, but if all seats were sold for for 1 cent each they still make heavy losses...

KL911


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9187 times:

I don't think the MMX cancellations are load related, rather a disagreement with the airport.

BSL gets its second route.
First non UK route for Budapest, Linz, Brno.
Vasteras is left with only STN.
Esbjerg loses its only route.

[Edited 2007-07-19 14:04:39]


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9165 times:

Quoting Teahan (Reply 6):
I don't think the MMX cancellations are load related, rather a disagreement with the airport.

Sounds more likely. Anyone got anything to add to this?

Quoting Teahan (Reply 6):
BSL gets its second route.

I missed that route when I first read your list, but I still it now. Excellent. Glad BSL gets its second FR route. GRO will now have 53 FR routes.



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User currently offlineSam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9144 times:

Quoting Sevenair (Reply 4):
I'm not surprised about LPL-INV, nor will I be surprised to hear of the cutting EMA-INV, which I can see happening.

Bad news for INV though - INV is struggling and really needed some FR routes. LPL to INV didn't last long did it?

Interesting to see three routes dropped from LPL and no replacements. Perhaps one less aircraft will be based there?



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9111 times:

I was wondering about that actually. Perhaps they will move a plane somewhere else. It is a shame. But I don't think any route can sustain a 189seater from INV currently. Even with a 19seater T3 had to cut NCL. But maybe things wil improve when flyBe expand there  Smile

User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9111 times:

I would not be so quick to read it as an a/c reduction; FR often announces new routes in the weeks that follow the cancellations.

Also no news on the company's 16/May Spanish website announcement.



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User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9055 times:

Ryanair cancells all flights ¨to and from MMX http://flygresor.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/ryanair-lagger-ner-i-malmo/

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 8973 times:

I think that FR will either announce brand-new routes from LPL or increase frequencies on some existing routes. As Tehran said: new routes are often announced shortly after route cancellations.

[Edited 2007-07-19 15:22:23]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8877 times:

Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 8):
INV is struggling

Why do you say that when there has a been a rash of new routes to be offered by BE and an AMS route on the cards. Short routes from INV to LPLetc were never going to work, they didnt carry that many passengers, so its no great loss.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8851 times:

Quoting Sukhoi (Reply 11):
Ryanair cancells all flights ¨to and from MMX

GRO-MMX-GRO will still operate.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4925 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 8717 times:

Of note for me is that FR cant seem to make HHN-Poland routes work, only Gdansk is left. Also MRS-oujda has not 'returned'

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 12):
I think that FR will either announce brand-new routes from LPL or increase frequencies on some existing routes. As Tehran said: new routes are often announced shortly after route cancellations.

Wouldnt they have announced them today with the other new routes?

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 14):
Quoting Sukhoi (Reply 11):
Ryanair cancells all flights ¨to and from MMX

GRO-MMX-GRO will still operate.

GRO-MMX cancelled 4th November
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=07&month=jul&story=rte-en-190707



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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3171 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 8652 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 15):
Of note for me is that FR cant seem to make HHN-Poland routes work, only Gdansk is left. Also MRS-oujda has not 'returned'

It's too close to drive for VFR and migration traffic, and HHN is too far from FRA to work for business people. Someone who was in the management of NRN (but was informed a lot on HHN) told that they actually had many Polish people that drove from western Poland to HHN to fly on FR to Spain from there...


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 8652 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 15):
Wouldnt they have announced them today with the other new routes?

Not necessarily: previously, new routes/increased frequencies have followed cancellations. And I for one certainly don't expect an aircraft to be withdrawn from LPL. But we shall see.

Quoting Humberside (Reply 15):
GRO-MMX cancelled 4th November

Ah. Clearly, there must be some issue with MMX. Anyone know what?



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User currently offlineRevo From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 8600 times:

Ryanair may pull out of CIA

Ryanair Asked To Transfer Rome Flights This Winter (by Revo Jul 18 2007 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8536 times:

Quoting Revo (Reply 18):
Ryanair may pull out of CIA

Ryanair Asked To Transfer Rome Flights This Winter (by Revo Jul 18 2007 in Civil Aviation)

I can't see them finding a home for 5 738s (+ flights to CIA from other bases) that quickly.



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User currently offlineMYT321 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8514 times:

Still no mainland Europe routes from LBA. Any ideas if FR has any expansion plans from LBA ?


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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8487 times:

Quote:
These 11 new routes bring the Ryanair network to 499 routes across 26 countries

You have got to love them for spin like that. Come next November, 18 routes - 11 permanently - will be gone to be replaced by just 11 routes. So the network has shrunk - while the statement gives the impression as if it has actually increased.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8467 times:

Quoting Teahan (Thread starter):
Dublin-Grenoble,Hamburg,Porto,Biarritz

I presume with Hamburg they mean LBC, right? Or are they in fact starting up flights to HAM now?

Anyway, good to see FR expanding at HAM or LBC. LCC service from from U2 and FR to the greater Hamburg area have been very few (e.g. U2's BRS-HAM). There's a market that can be further tapped, since it's mostly BA that serves HAM out of LHR and there could be other airports from where LoCos could serve HAM or LBC.


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8230 times:

Looking at the booking engine, DUB/GRO to Tenerife flights are moving TFN to TFS from October. SNN flights will never have operated from TFN.

[Edited 2007-07-20 13:41:56]


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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4165 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8194 times:

Per my understanding BRE-Pisa and BRE-Verona have been dropped as well, at least for the winter schedule.


Flown: A319/320/321,A332/3,A380,AT4,AT7,B732/3/4/5/7/8,B742/4,B762/763,B772,CR2,CR7,ER4,E70,E75,F50/70,M11,L15,S20
25 Humberside : They're not expanding, but making the DUB route seasonal - seems an odd route to go seasonal but I guess it has had poor winter performance in the pa
26 Joost : Also on the map now.
27 Post contains images RyanairCRL : Pe@rson, you usually do a better job it's not 3 but 5 routes cancelled from MMX. Barcelona – Malmo 4 Nov Dublin – Malmo 4 Nov Dublin –Vasteras
28 Sam1987 : What's the problem at MMX? Increased airport charges? Typical FR being misleading - they've made it look like they operate flights to TFS and TFN at
29 BY738 : Currently you can book both flights to TFS and TFN, so in theory it is correct as they have flights schedules to both destinations albeit on differen
30 Goinv : I flew Inverness to Liverpool in March (a Thursday). I don't know if it was a one off but load factor was 100%
31 BY738 : Yes, but they all flew on 1p fares. Load and profit /economics are completely seperate.
32 Sam1987 : They operate from MME and DSA to GRO and from DSA to PSA, so I'm surprised FR haven't got any mainland European routes from LBA. They could easily sw
33 Humberside : FR are to start LBA-SNN, but that seems to be an attract on RE at Galway more than anything else Any other routes will probably depend on if LBA's ne
34 Goinv : The idea of Revenue Management (as I am sure you are aware) is to try and sell seats that would otherwise be empty for silly amounts - ie 1p. Yes - s
35 Joost : Selling tickets for silly amounts is not exactly the idea of revenue management. One of the things is that, in ideal revenue management, you should a
36 BY738 : Indeed.
37 757lgw : Ryanair does not make make a profit on it's flights It breaks even on them, so as long as it has people paying high amounts on some of its summer sun
38 Joost : Almost. On average, they make 1 euro of profit on every passenger. Of course, there is cross-subsidizing between the people that pay EUR 200 and the
39 RyanairCRL : TFS operations will start on October 19th will all flights cancelled between the 15th and 17th to accommodate the change. The only problem is see wit
40 Pe@rson : I have just noticed that both LGW-BVA and STN-BVA are loaded in Ryanair's drop-down menu, but as yet they’re unbookable, not searchable in Ryanair's
41 Post contains images Joost : Their website features a lot more of these errors. IMHO, it doesn't say anything
42 Pe@rson : Come on, Mr Joost! Provide further examples. Incidentally, do you yet own a copy of Michael O'Leary: A Life In Full Flight? It's by Alan Ruddock. It'
43 Post contains links and images Joost : The best (or worst) one is of course still this Spanish press release: http://www.ryanair.com/site/ES/news....07&month=may&story=rte-es-160507-2 Next
44 Pe@rson : I’m just constructing an itinerary purely for fun that’d enable me to visit every FR base within a short period of time. I’ve thus far worked ou
45 Humberside : LPL Press Conference tomorrow
46 Pe@rson : Yes. Apparently exciting new routes will be announced. I wonder which. I also wonder whether the new routes will simply be based on the opportunity w
47 Post contains images EHRD : Heard that LCJ will be served 2x a week. Not really an exciting route
48 Pe@rson : Copied from the Irish thread: it is suggested that FR will today (25/7) announce services to/from Belfast, probably BHD. Nothing else yet reported.
49 EHRD : The new routes are published on the Ryanair website now. Indeed LCJ 2x a week and more routes out of Liverpool. More new routes: Belfast-Prestwick, Be
50 Pe@rson : From Bristol Starts Frequency Turin 22 Dec 1 x week From East Midlands Starts Frequency Belfast 30 Oct Daily Grenoble 22 Dec 1 x week Poznan 8 Nov 3 x
51 Pe@rson : Please delete this post.[Edited 2007-07-25 14:46:53]
52 Doona : I'd say it's a stunt to force MMX to lower rates. Especially since FR has not expressed any interest in serving the region via another airport. Still
53 Pe@rson : Right, I've managed to construct a 10-day plan that'd enable me to visit all of FR's 20 current bases. Of course, I won't actually do it in one go: fl
54 SJOtoLIR : The base in BRE is also expanding. Now are available some new tracks as BRE-BUD and BRE-BTS. Regards.
55 Cjbmibe : FR's announcement with regards to BHD has set the wheels in motion... The bag sort area cannot cope with the current volume of flights so theres plans
56 SJOtoLIR : The base in BRE is also expanding. Now are available some new tracks as BRE-BUD and BRE-BTS. Regards.
57 Pe@rson : Here are the times of the flights to and from BHD: LPL-BHD: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 = 0900-0950; 6 = 1000-1050; 7 = 0925-1015 BHD-LPL: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 = 1015-1105
58 Cjbmibe : I love how they expect 25 minute turnarounds. Belfast is not a big airport but we're not that good with a 738. We can turn flybe around in 15 minutes
59 Pe@rson : Ryanair again has 1p per one-way flight including all taxes, fees and card fees. 250,000 available until midnight tomorrow (27th July) for Nov, Dec, J
60 Boeing74741R : Regarding the LPL-BHD route, I've noticed that FR seem quite interested on straying into U2 territory of late...I mean they now serve PMI and ALC (alo
61 Cjbmibe : Never had the pleasure of flying with FR or U2 but I know I would go for U2 first. U2 use A319's which I prefer over B737's. Have been on BD and LS 73
62 Candid76 : This chopping and changing of routes is all very well and good - some routes will work and some will not, this is the same for any airline. If your fl
63 Sam1987 : And here we are at 2200BST (two hours from midnight) and there's no sign of the 1p sale. I had listed many flights I was planning to book tonight and
64 Boeing74741R : Just my thoughts! Again I've never flown FR, but have flown with U2 in the past and, contrary to popular belief, they are good. I disagree with FR's
65 Post contains images RJ100 : Rumours here at the airport that Ryanair will announce two more routes out of BSL, possibly this week. My questions to the FR professionnals : What ba
66 Post contains images PEET7G : There seems to be an error or a news leak on the Ryanair website... when scrolling over Budapest the routes show Dublin as a destination, however the
67 Prebennorholm : MMX and CPH are close neighbors. You can spit from one airport to another. Well, at least you can drive a bus in minutes rather than hours. FR is exp
68 Humberside : Theres bmi regional to ABZ and Danish Air Transport to SVG (think it may continue to Bergen as well) Post on pprune announcemnt says MAD announcement
69 Sam1987 : Still no news on the FR website. Does anybody have insider info?
70 Humberside : Have seen posted elsewhere that FR have announced PSA-Lamezia Terme/Porto and CRL-Forli/Grenoble/Turin (last two routes operatedlast winter I think, s
71 SJOtoLIR : Spanair (JK): up to 11 daily MAD-BCN. Air Europa (UX): 7 daily MAD-BCN. Vueling (VY): 4 daily MAD-BCN. They´re all LCC. FR could find a consolidated
72 Pe@rson : PSA-SUF, PSA-OPO, CRL-FRL, CRL-GNB, CRL-TRN all on its website now.
73 Pe@rson : PSA-SUF = 4x weekly PSA-OPO = 2x weekly CRL-FRL = 3x weekly CRL-GNB = 1x weekly (Sat) CRL-TRN = 1x weekly (Sat)
74 Aisak : Depends on how many JK users are price sensitive vs. service/frequency/schedule/connections sensitive That's only for summer. In october they're back
75 Pe@rson : The announcement of PSA-SUF means that FR will now have 10 domestic Italian routes (including those to/from Sardinia), and will have 3 routes to/from
76 Humberside : Although oddly no press release
77 Pe@rson : No, not yet. But when I saw them it was after 1700 GMT, although I don't know for how long they were up. Perhaps there will be a press release tomorr
78 Post contains links Teahan : Apparently some significant announcements to be made: New bases at Alicante and (?) Valencia. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/40688846-4376-11dc-a065-0000779f
79 Sam1987 : FR's first route to Nice... will we see some routes competing with U2 from Nice in the future?
80 Pe@rson : And its first route to Prague. Will be interesting and exciting to see what happens.[Edited 2007-08-07 13:18:19]
81 Post contains images StationManager : Some rumours: ALC-FKB ALC-BRE ALC-HHN ALC-BVA ALC-CRL ALC-BGY In addition to DUB, LPL, STN, NRN, PSA, NYO. Routes already served from ALC. Kindest Reg
82 SJOtoLIR : FR is entering in U2 territory... U2 has extended their operations from UK to both PRG and NCE in the following legs respectively: PRG-(BFS, NCL, EMA
83 Pe@rson : From Pprune: "According to luchtvaartnieuws.nl (sorry, dutch only) a Ryanair spokesman said that they will anounce new routes to Eindhoven and Maastri
84 Vinniewinnie : Don't you need special training to land in Nice? If I'm correct would FR not need to train a bunch of pilots? Not Ryanair policy is it?
85 Pe@rson : Why would you need it for NCE? For INN, yes, but NCE?
86 KL911 : Don´t think so.... The airport is almost in the mediterenian, without any obstacles. Can´t see why you would need training.
87 PHKLM : And the shortest runway is > 8500ft, so you can basically bring anything to NCE. AF currently sends the 77W from Paris FWIW.
88 Teahan : News is starting to come in. According to a post on PPRUNE, Alicante has just been confirmed. 2 aircraft and 11 new routes. STN/DUB Vitoria flights ar
89 Pe@rson : I know what you mean. I swear I saw a 15-year-old work experience boy fly an EZY plane to NCE. He was interviewed and all he said was: "Nice."
90 Pe@rson : ALC confirmed as new base! 11 new routes: Baden Basel Billund Bournemouth Brussels Doncaster East Midlands Gotenburg Maastrict Milan Paris 2x 73Hs to
91 Teahan : The Valencia routes are now on the routemap. (new) Basel Billund Bologna Eindhoven Karlsruhe_ Liverpool Maastricht Malta Paris Beauvais Porto Santiago
92 Pe@rson : Can't yet find any news release about it, but those routes are up - and VLC appears as a base on FR's site. So it too will have 2x 73Hs to begin with
93 Humberside : DUB/STN-Vitoria axed
94 Post contains links Pe@rson : By the way, don't for a second think that Alicante is just about tourism. Yes, the Costa Blanca is easily accessible from ALC, but the city itself as
95 Pe@rson : Combining existing and new routes, VLC will have 21 and ALC 17. Particularly good to see that MLA will now have 7 routes, OPO 13, BSL 4, and BOH 9. VL
96 Richardw : Still no non-irish flights to LGW to upset U2 BA and GT.
97 Post contains links Teahan : The Valencia routes: Baden Baden Oct 4x Basel Oct 3x Billund Oct 3x Bologna Oct 4x Eindhoven Oct 4x Liverpool Oct 4x Malta Oct 3x Maastricht Oct 3x Pa
98 Acelanzarote : Anyone know why Ryanair have so far stayed away from Gran Canaria and Lanzarote???
99 Humberside : DSA-Pisa axed at the end of this summer
100 Pe@rson : So DSA will have 3 not 4 routes.[Edited 2007-08-09 19:49:35]
101 Pe@rson : We've had VLC and ALC, so does anyone know anything more about the proposed new routes from DUB, namely: Dublin to Basel Dublin to Budapest Dublin to
102 BBADXB : What plans - if any - does Ryanair have to increase its flights and destinations served from Jerez? I, for one, am hoping to see a Jerez-Valencia serv
103 Post contains links and images Teahan : Where's Pe@rson today? Seems the Independent article was mostly right with the exception of Marrakech. http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=07&mon
104 YULMRS : Just a few questions, do you think we have a chance to see MRS-BSL ? (I'd take it twice a month or something like that) Are they still planning an exp
105 Sam1987 : Low loads? I'm not surprised to be honest - they would probably get more punters if the flight times were better. FR have no non-Irish flights from L
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