Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8322 times:
Quoting Legacyins (Reply 2): Thanks for the update. I was sure they were going to put a 773 on this route. But 744 are great also.
I was hoping to see their B773ER @ SFO also as we already see a CX B744.. ....
...load factors for CX on this route has been exceptional (doesn't mean its a profitable flight, however prices on this route aren't cheap either..even with SQ and UA competition so yields are probably very good) so I'm not surprised to see them add another flight..but another B744..
Rejuvenated From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2006, 25 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8259 times:
I guess they are forcasting high demands that would justify having 2 daily 744s. Also putting the 744 will help reduce the chances for unscheduled technical stops during winter when the headwinds across the pacific for the westbound flights are fierce.
Still have not seen the proposed new JFK nonstop on the schedule yet.
BTW is the photo on the previous reply the "real un-edited image"? That giant CX 744 and tiny UA seems to be flying dangerously too close to each other. But great focus for whomever caught that shot.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12598 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8230 times:
Quoting Rejuvenated (Reply 4): BTW is the photo on the previous reply the "real un-edited image"? That giant CX 744 and tiny UA seems to be flying dangerously too close to each other
Yes, it is unedited; if you go to other SFO photos on the photo search engine, you'll see quite a few like this; Runways 28L/R are very close and often, landings are performed on both runways. I remember seeing a superb photo of a Lufthansa 744 and a smaller aircraft, in much the same pose as you see in this photo.
CV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8198 times:
Good news 2x/daily from SFO....always room for more HKG flights. Just wish other wannabe real international carriers realized the demand. It's always mind boggling how CX & SQ can come in and virtually dominate both the LAX/SFO markets with multiple flights from each city, yet the US carriers, with the exception of UA, can't begin to compete.
Also better fare deals on CX.
CX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8115 times:
Air India want to fly HKG-SFO, but the air services agreement does not allow it yet. The reason it does not allow it yet is because Air India do not have the spare capacity to fly the route and do not want a new air services agreement to be signed until they have the capacity to fly the route, much to the annoyance of Cathay which desperately wants more capacity to India.
FlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7491 times:
Quoting Jlk (Reply 13): Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 11):
AI starts service to SFO nonstop from Bangalore at the end of 2007 or the beginning of 2008.
AI is planning SFO service from BLR, but I don't think it is nonstop.
Where would the stop be? AI's new 772LR could definitely do this high-tech route.
I find it interesting that CX is increasing their capacity to SFO... I suppose UA is hurting bad enough for international aircraft that they can't compete too hard. Then again, UA has started to throw their 777s in for hong kong routes, which gives them a bit more flexibility.
ultimately though, it's good to see this route is doing well and the added capacity certainly won't hurt prices for the consumer!
"Let the world change you, and you can change the world"
United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9210 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7441 times:
Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 11):
I can't wait for that. It would be cool to see AI on SFO-HKG too.
Buth when will this happen?
Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 14): I suppose UA is hurting bad enough for international aircraft that they can't compete too hard. Then again, UA has started to throw their 777s in for hong kong routes, which gives them a bit more flexibility.
Guess not. UA competes successfully with SQ and CX even from the beginning on the SFO-HKG route.
BAW716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2028 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7345 times:
Also, I have it on good authority that the YVR service, that has three flights (one seasonal, two year round) will go to three year round come the fall. This plus the SFO added flight means a significant increase in capacity for CX in the NW USA and BC. Not sure about what a/c will be the third trip; it may be an A343. No A346s are planned.
David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
Rejuvenated From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2006, 25 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7296 times:
Quoting SFO777200LR (Reply 16): Actually, this flight is in place to compete with Oasis Hong Kong. I think CX is trying to get a head start on a day time flight before Oasis starts service to OAK.
Oasis' plan was to fly to OAK, but latest rumors circulating is that they plan to go to SFO instead and may commence service as early as this winter. If that is indeed true, SFO-HKG will be a very crowded market route and we can potentially see 35 weekly 744 flights before the year is over offered by four competitors (CX, SQ, UA, 08). Nonetheless great for consumer options and let the pricing war begin.
AirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7265 times:
I am glad to see that CX scheduled the new service as a daytime flight. When I flew to HKG last year, I flew from ACV down to LAX so I could catch CX 885 which leaves in the early afternoon. I did the same thing when I took the daylight QF flight to SYD several years ago. I would have preferred to fly out of SFO but have a strong dislike for 14 hour long red eyes. I can't sleep on planes; don't want to take drugs only to sleep upright in a Y class seat; and don't like the idea of arriving early in the morning (2 days later) only to spend the entire day fighting my desire to go to bed. At that point, you have lost 3 days of your vacation including recovery time from the long flight. CX 885 worked perfectly. We left LAX in the afternoon, followed the sun across the Pacific and arrived in HKG right after sunset.... around 7pm the next day (14 hours 19 minutes later). I took the train into the city and stayed at a hotel near Central then caught a morning flight the rest of the way to BKK and USM... rested and raring to go. I definitely want to go back to Asia in the next year or so and I'll most likely take this new CX flight out of SFO. I love flying on CX. Their Y Class inflight service is far superior to anything I have experienced on a US carrier.
I'm leavin on a jet plane. Don't know when I'll be back again....