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LHR - Rain & Chaos!  
User currently offlineLHRBlueSkies From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 493 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6705 times:

A little bit of rain (ok, lot's) and the whole airport grinds to a halt.

Many flights are parking remote due to the terminals being at capacity, but these flights can't offload as there aren't enough buses for the pax, or baggage reclaim belts for the bags!

And departing flights are held up by excessively long ATC delays, and those remote flights again can't load pax as there are no gate rooms available!

Oh, and each terminal is leaking, so it's get the buckets out time!

Bring it on!


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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3899 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6701 times:

That airport is a mess...

Old, not enough capacity... and probably a shortage of buckets too! Bring on T5 and the East Terminal, I say!


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6334 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6647 times:

I was woken up by a VS 747 flying very low through the storm and a few hours ago this is what North London looked like.

The weather has cleared up quite a bit now so hopefully thats a the last of it for LHR.

[Edited 2007-07-20 16:35:10]

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3899 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6583 times:

Nice photo! I woke up at about 9:30AM and it was dark enough outside to be midnight!. (I'm in North Kent)

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12499 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6535 times:
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I live about 10 miles from LHR. Three hours ago my road was a river and my back garden a lake. A family of ducks had moved in and the guy next door was building an Ark!

Now the sun is blazing and you wouldn't know it had ever rained! crazy 



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User currently offlineBAW076 From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2006, 750 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6535 times:

I wondered why there was a distinct lack of activity in the skies above me... I live a mile south of LCY and always get the LHR inbounds (for 27L and 27R) overhead, but all I've really heard today so far is thunderstorms!

I've just been on the Heathrow departures website and there are tons of flights still on the ground that are 4-5 hours late!

Amazing isn't it. - One of the busiest airports in the world and it can't cope with a downpour!

Chris   

[Edited 2007-07-20 16:59:48]

[Edited 2007-07-20 17:00:21]


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User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6524 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
Now the sun is blazing and you wouldn't know it had ever rained! crazy

Except the tunnels in and out of LHR are flooded. Theres water everywhere round the South of England


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6473 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 1):
That airport is a mess...

Old, not enough capacity... and probably a shortage of buckets too! Bring on T5 and the East Terminal, I say!

You can't really blame the airport infrastructure for this morning the rain hammered it down for a good hour and a half to two hours with thunder and lightning overhead. That amount water falling is going to cause problems for anywhere let alone an airport who's business of flying is hampered by adverse weather conditions. It was downright dangerous out there at times this morning.

[Edited 2007-07-20 17:05:52]

[Edited 2007-07-20 17:06:16]


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User currently offlineLHRBlueSkies From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6427 times:

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 7):
You can't really blame the airport infrastructure

Err, yes you can! Poor maintenance of it's facilities (well, I use the term maintenance very loosely - more of a fix it later approach!) has lead to the state it's in today.

It's more important to BAA/Ferrovial to make LHR a big shopping centre than a world class airport.



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User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6392 times:

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 7):
You can't really blame the airport infrastructure for this morning the rain hammered it down for a good hour and a half to two hours with thunder and lightning overhead.

Well, the roof still shouldn't leak, should it? It rains like that in Tampa all the time, and I've never seen buckets out at TPA because the roof's shoddy. Maintaining a roof isn't that difficult.


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6392 times:

Quoting LHRBlueSkies (Reply 8):

Err, yes you can! Poor maintenance of it's facilities (well, I use the term maintenance very loosely - more of a fix it later approach!) has lead to the state it's in today.

It's more important to BAA/Ferrovial to make LHR a big shopping centre than a world class airport.

So only LHR has problems when adverse weather hits, not JFK, CDG, FRA or anywhee else. I'll remember that next time I'm delayed because of the weather. Jeez, you need to get out a bit more.  frown 



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User currently offlinePDXtriple7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6379 times:

Damn it. I'm supposed to fly on BA958 from LHR to MUC. Good thing I checked the status...delayed an hour and a half, but most of the other flights were cancelled. I hope I'm not in for a long night... I've only got two days in MUC, then back Sunday night.

User currently offlinePDXtriple7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6334 times:

Now it's back to on-time...

User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6307 times:

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 9):
Well, the roof still shouldn't leak, should it? It rains like that in Tampa all the time, and I've never seen buckets out at TPA because the roof's shoddy. Maintaining a roof isn't that difficult.

Whilst I dont want to defend LHR too much, I might add that parts of the South East today had two months of rainfall in a day. No infrastructure can cater for that, not evenn good old LHR. I work in a 10 year old office in Reading and the water was leaking in a various quarters. We have until today never seen a leak in the office. Todays rainfall was unprecendented, if you were not in it, you cannot comment. Any airport would have struggled today, its been horrendous!


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6294 times:

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 9):

Well, the roof still shouldn't leak, should it? It rains like that in Tampa all the time, and I've never seen buckets out at TPA because the roof's shoddy. Maintaining a roof isn't that difficult.

Well a leaky roof doesn't cause major delays and cancellations. What happened this morning was nothing to with LHR's infrastructure, it was solely down to the seriously poor weather conditions London suffered this morning. I'm sure Tampa or any other world airport would of suffered problems if the storm that hit us this morning hit them.



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User currently offlineBritannia191A From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6263 times:

Quoting PDXtriple7 (Reply 11):
Damn it. I'm supposed to fly on BA958 from LHR to MUC. Good thing I checked the status...delayed an hour and a half, but most of the other flights were cancelled. I hope I'm not in for a long night... I've only got two days in MUC, then back Sunday night.

You will find its delayed 3hrs. New ETA 2300hrs. Good luck as the BA before that has been cancelled.


User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5997 times:

Im surprised BA didn't cancel the entire domestic network. Well done BA!

User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2083 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5971 times:

Yep, it was major downpours this morning - started overnight and just kept coming until about lunchtime. Coming home from work tonight I had to make a four mile detour as most of the roads to my village were shut due to floods. Lot of rail service disruption too. It wasn't just a heavy shower, but a could 12 hours of it - Groud got sodden, drains filled up and then the floods started. I was on the fifth floor of a building today and the ligthening appeared to be below us. Thunder wasn't claps, but a standing ovation it went on so long. One bout was so bad it set loads of car alarms off. So for once lets stop beating BAA up.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5963 times:

And coincidentally LHR's CEO just resigned. I don't blame him.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...20601102&sid=a5VdI_vDwXJY&refer=uk


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3402 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5963 times:

I saw the earlier BA LHR-PHL flt was delayed 2 hrs

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26949 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5951 times:

Weather disruption
The severe weather today has had an impact on air traffic across the UK and Europe and has led to 141 flight cancellations at Heathrow. In-bound flights are not badly delayed and out-bound flights are delayed by approximately 20 minutes.
We advise passengers to check the status of their flights and to allow themselves extra time if travelling to the airport by car, due to flood related road congestion on the motorways and surrounding roads.


http://www.heathrowairport.com/

Sounds like hell if your due to fly. A mate of mine just had his LH flight to FRA cancelled. He asked me about his baggage !!! I told him he may never see it again  Big grin


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6844 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5932 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
I live about 10 miles from LHR. Three hours ago my road was a river and my back garden a lake. A family of ducks had moved in and the guy next door was building an Ark!

Now the sun is blazing and you wouldn't know it had ever rained! crazy

We get these kinds of rains a lot... the airport's fine, but still grinds to a halt, why? coz the roads going into the airport is flooded so people can't get in and our... crews included...

LOL

Mandala499



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User currently offlineLobstertail From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5907 times:

Flew in today. We ended up sitting out in the middle of the airfield for 90 minutes waiting for a stand to open up. When one did finally become available we then had to wait another 30 minutes for the stairs and buses to show up.

User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2365 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5832 times:

Quoting BAW076 (Reply 5):
Amazing isn't it. - One of the busiest airports in the world and it can't cope with a downpour!

You've obviously never been to NYC in summer. JFK/EWR/LGA had 4 hour delays earlier this week due to storms.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5779 times:
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Whilst I understand that any airport can be affected by particularly bad weather, it does still seem as though British Airports are particularly bad at coping with such situations. This applies most of all when there is a cm or two of snow.


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25 PanHAM : ...and in winter. Half an inch of snow stalls JFK and snarls traffic on the Van Wyck. Must have been real bad at LHR today, one BA flight to FRA was
26 PDXtriple7 : My flight got cancelled. Absolute disaster. People with no place to sleep... but I can't get ahold of any BA number to redo my reservations. They refu
27 BAW076 : Still delays affecting departures at Heathrow... This was the situation at 00:10 GMT: 16:35 OA270 ATHENS AIRBORNE 2342 18:15 BA482 BARCELONA AIRBORNE
28 PDXtriple7 : Is there no 24 hour number in the UK? All I see is the US, which won't work for me here.
29 Sevenair : I believe all of the BA UK based call centres close at 20:00 GMT. I guess you are at an airport - there should be a BA (or whoever handles them) agent
30 Viscount724 : Even in the Internet age, it's surprising that a major carrier like BA, especially in their home market, no longer has 24 hour telephone access. Thei
31 PDXtriple7 : 1. Have tried twice to rebook online. Not an option. 2. I'm back at the place I'm staying in London. I'm on hold with the US BA number, since that's 2
32 Byrdluvs747 : I don't remember leaking roofs at any of those airports. LHR is a dismal airport.
33 RFields5421 : Yesterday there were weather delays in Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Washington DC (both airports) Philadelphia and NYC (all three airports) - by and
34 LA888 : Guys dont kid yourselves. The BAA have brought LHR to its knees and the place is seriously close to meltdown. The place cannot cope with any unforese
35 Antonovman : I worked at FRA for 10 years and every time it rained, Hall C was full of buckets catching the rain. Its not only LHR
36 PanHAM : Happens at FRA some times, in T1 , the lower level where the supermarket and the access to the suburban trains and parking is. Global call centres, c
37 Post contains images Kevin777 : A friend of mine just called me and woke me up... He's stuck at LHR and absolutely pissed; he has had an awful journey... delayed SGN-HKG to miss his
38 Speedbird2155 : BA has no codeshares with SK and as such there wouldn't be a BA flight number on any SK flights. As for the conditions at LHR, while not being the be
39 SA7700 : It could be an SK flight on either CX or BA "paper". Depending on which carrier's "paper" the ticket was issued, they are obliged to get your friend
40 EKSkycargo370 : I was working there yesterday,LHR is a total disgrace,there are not enough gates at the airport to cater for the demand.BAA need to look for carriers
41 TCXDegsy : Is it just me, or shoudn't we be talking up the positives, such as T5 which will undoubtedly help, and would have been in place a lot earlier had it n
42 ContinentalEWR : Heathrow went from being my favoriter airport in the world to one of my most reviled. It's dirty, congested, frequent delays, bad infrastructure, and
43 AlanUK : Whilst I agree that a flight cancellation is inconvenient, I find the wording "absolute disaster" a tad too strong. If a flight cancellation is an "a
44 Post contains images Kevin777 : That's probably it - an SK ticket issued on BA paper, not BA codeshare (makes more sense now that I think of it..). I'd also reckon BA's to blame; he
45 BAxMAN : It sounds like your friend has booked a CX fare CPH-SGN, and can only assume that for the outbound sectors, your friend flew CPH-BA-LHR-CX-HKG-CX-SGN
46 AlanUK : Sorry I didn't realise this had stopped. Probably another Willie Walsh W*nker decision...
47 Viscount724 : They should clarify that in their website (UK contacts). If calls are routed to different call centres to provide 24h coverage, they should show "24
48 Aerofan : I got caught up in this mess. I was on VS25 that was scheduled to leave at 6PM. We didn't get out till 8:15PM local time. The aircraft was remote park
49 WorldTraveler : Amazing. Apparently Americans expect to be able to reach customer service 24 hrs per day... and probably work for less than BA's British staff.
50 Feroze : Therefore, to clarify, BA's telephone ops in the UK are from 0600 to 2000 only. The re-routing to the US outside these hours ended some time ago. I o
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