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User currently offlineMemphis From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

Hey, I have a question . . . where, if allowed, in the terminals of an airport can one plug a laptop as oppossed to running the battery down? Is it even legal to plug into an open power point say in the gate area? I was thinking of maybe a "business center" in the airport. I'm flying to ATL and may end up spending some time in the airport on the way back home and would like to use the laptop . . . Thanks,


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User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 747 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

There are many Delta charging stations around the terminals just for that possibility, you can always snag an outlet at the gates of course...

Andrew
JFK/MEM/MCI



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

There are laptop stations in SIN where you can charge up, however you need to provide your own charger.

User currently offlineCatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2803 times:
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It's hit or miss at most US airports. There are usually a few outlets, good luck finding an open one!

User currently offlineMemphis From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

is snagging an outlet frowned upon?


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

I've snagged outlets many times at too many airports to count. Nobody's had a problem with it, and I've seen several other people doing it too. As long as you don't unplug anything or go behind counters or anything like that, it's not an issue. There are normally a few outlets in each gate area, often by poles or along the non-windowed walls. Sometimes it takes a bit of hunting, but it shouldn't be a problem.

In ATL, there are the Relax and Recharge Stations on each concourse (often by the midpoint on A and B; by T5 on the T gates; not sure of C and E). Also, there are the automatic trash cans throughout the airport - these plug into the poles, and there is often an outlet available by there that you can use.

And of course, for $25, you can use the Crown Room, which has a pretty good number of outlets.


User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Diverging a little off-topic.

Dont try this at work if you work for FR! They banned staff from charging their cellphones at work a couple of years ago.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2438 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 6):
Dont try this at work if you work for FR! They banned staff from charging their cellphones at work a couple of years ago.

They too cheap to pay for the electricity???  Wink

To make sure you have access to a plug in at the airport, it is a good idea to take a multiple plug with you in case both of the power outlet are in use by others charging their laptops.



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 7):
To make sure you have access to a plug in at the airport, it is a good idea to take a multiple plug with you in case both of the power outlet are in use by others charging their laptops.

In fact, this is the best advice. It's not so much finding an electrical outlet, it's finding one that's not already being used. Take a small one into two adaptor with you.

Careful not to unplug anything. I was ATL once, I was down to 5% battery, and the only outlet had a big red plug in it. I unplugged it - and all the runway lights went out ... needless to say, I plugged it straight back in again! Only a couple of go-arounds.


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2574 times:
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In the UK I understand it's technically not allowed, something along the lines of 'extracting electricity without authority' could in theory be thrown at you. In reality, the worst thing that could happen is somebody will tell you to stop using the power point. I think you're more likely to be pulled up about it if you have a power cable trailing somewhere others could trip over it (which I have seen). As long as you're sensible about it and don't do it under the wrong people's nose you should be ok.


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User currently offlineCO777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2559 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 8):
Careful not to unplug anything. I was ATL once, I was down to 5% battery, and the only outlet had a big red plug in it. I unplugged it - and all the runway lights went out ... needless to say, I plugged it straight back in again! Only a couple of go-arounds.

 scratchchin  Didn't you mother ever tell you not to touch things that didn't belong to you  rotfl 


Now on the otherhand, try using a US surge protector in Europe. The outcome is quite funny.


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2555 times:

Hunt arround....Most terminals have outlets for cleaners to plug vaccuums into and such...they are not always obvious but when you find them there is usually no one using them as they didn ot see them.

GS



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User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Go ahead and use a free one by all means! I have done it countless times as well and no one has ever said anything other than to ask if it was ok to use the other plug. The only caution I would give is that the 2348320948 times that a vacuum has been plugged into the outlet usually means it is in pretty dodgy condition!

User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

While I am in Atlanta I use Delta's "Relax and Recharge" stations to plug in my laptop. I have snagged outlets at the gate area and have never had any problems. I have even had employees smile at me when they have seen me do it.

Quote:
Careful not to unplug anything. I was ATL once, I was down to 5% battery, and the only outlet had a big red plug in it. I unplugged it - and all the runway lights went out ... needless to say, I plugged it straight back in again! Only a couple of go-arounds.

Hmmmm, Sounds fishy. Where was this located? I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2505 times:
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Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
Hmmmm, Sounds fishy. Where was this located? I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

-Delta767300ER

Do you think maybe he was joking?



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User currently offlineCjbmibe From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

I dont think pax should use plugs outside of the designated areas such as the previously mentioned Relax & Recharge stations or airline lounges.

While in the UK all airport staff have the authority to challenge pax or people not displaying thier pass for any reason we see fit, I have yet to ask anyone why they're so cheap as to have not charged thier laptop and why they're using it outside of the business lounge - if they're so important to have a laptop why are they not in there?

It is in effect stealing from the Airport Authority or Airline. Its not like we help ourselves to your wash kits or clothes in the bags you give us. It might seem that way sometimes but 9/10 times its an accident that it has been opened.

Also - ATL, dont think I'll be flying in there if indeed it turns out pax have access to a red plug that operates the runway lights. In BHD ATC control the lights but theres no plugs for them, they're wired direct to thier power source using underground cables - as I image they would be in most airports.



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User currently offlineEI787 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1513 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2457 times:
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According to ATL airport website, there are 'Laptop Lanes' in Concourses A, B & T which offer wired internet access for laptops. Presumably there'll be a place to charge your laptop there as well.

User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 747 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
I dont think pax should use plugs outside of the designated areas such as the previously mentioned Relax & Recharge stations or airline lounges.

Hey where I work, if you can find one in the first place use it!!

Andrew
JFK/MEM/MCI



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User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Quote:
I dont think pax should use plugs outside of the designated areas such as the previously mentioned Relax & Recharge stations or airline lounges.

I cant speak for British Policies but their is no policy that I know of in the U.S. that prohibits us from doing this.

Quote:
According to ATL airport website, there are 'Laptop Lanes' in Concourses A, B & T which offer wired internet access for laptops. Presumably there'll be a place to charge your laptop there as well.

Laptop lane is great. You get a private comfortable small office, T-1 Line, computer, ect. but you have to pay.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Quoting Catdaddy63 (Reply 3):
It's hit or miss at most US airports. There are usually a few outlets, good luck finding an open one!

-- or in some cases, ones that work. At RIC, I found one (by COs gates) where the bottom half didn't work at all, and the top half only workd if you wiggled it just right. At LAX near gate 64 I found one (near the restrooms) that worked, but fell out (bare wire exposed) as soon as I tuched it.

At CLE, I've seen a few with yellow "OUT OF SERVICE" tags on them. The end of C (the rotunda) has the highest concentration of available outlets I can remember seeing, though IAH's E22 wasn't too shabby

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

I wouldn't think you could get a receptical with a high enough current rating....

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
why they're so cheap as to have not charged thier laptop and why they're using it outside of the business lounge - if they're so important to have a laptop why are they not in there?

Ahhh...so many assumptions there... like that the battery wasn't charged when you started the 18 hour day... or that you're cheap... or that one actually has a desire to be found in the isolation of a business lounge.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
I dont think pax should use plugs outside of the designated areas such as the previously mentioned Relax & Recharge stations or airline lounges.

While in the UK all airport staff have the authority to challenge pax or people not displaying thier pass for any reason we see fit, I have yet to ask anyone why they're so cheap as to have not charged thier laptop and why they're using it outside of the business lounge - if they're so important to have a laptop why are they not in there?

There's nothing wrong with using them throughout the terminal. Why not use them if it's in a publicly accessible place - it's one thing if it's in an area that should be employees-only or to remove something that's already plugged in, but if it's right there next to the seats in the gate area, why not use it?

As for charging it, when I'm traveling, it's not always possible to have my laptop charged at all times. If I'm on a plane using my laptop, it might wear it down. If there's powerports on the plane, I use them (I've got an Empower adapter, a DC adapter and my regular AC adapter). But, my primary airline is Delta, and the routes I fly most (BOS-ATL; MHT-ATL; ATL-GSO) are mostly on 757s, MD-88s and CRJs - which don't have powerports (Delta doesn't use many of the TV-equipped 757s on BOS-ATL). On a 2 hour flight like BOS-ATL, my battery wears down quite a bit. If I want to use it on my next flight, I'm going to have to charge it somewhere.

As for the argument that it's stealing, I doubt that. Sure, you're using the airport's power. And to the airport, the amount of money spent on charging laptops at a gate versus a Relax and Recharge or a lounge is a fraction of 1% of the airport's electric budget. It's extremely miniscule when you consider that runway lights at these major airports are on 24/7 (and those are high-density lights that most likely use more energy than a lightbulb at your house); not to mention the power it takes to power concessions, airport lights in concourses, etc. The cost of 1000 people charging a laptop at a gate every day for 30 minutes is a drop in the bucket for many airports; even many of the mid-size and smaller airports. I'm sure the airports don't have a problem with it whatsoever.


User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
Hmmmm, Sounds fishy



Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 15):
Also - ATL, dont think I'll be flying in there if indeed it turns out pax have access to a red plug that operates the runway lights.

If you think that is bad, I unplugged a guy in a hospitol once. It's a good thing he had insurance, or it was for his wife in anycase. I learned my lesson on those red plugs.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
In the UK I understand it's technically not allowed, something along the lines of 'extracting electricity without authority' could in theory be thrown at you.

Thats because they can't tax it.



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 14):
Do you think maybe he was joking?

.........oh, maybe..



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User currently offlineNYC2theworld From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

I don't think its stealing. I'm paying for the right to use it. I would argue its covered in the payment of my Passenger Facility Charge. I'm already using a great deal of electricity (Proportionate share of runway lighting, air conditioning in the terminal, lights in the terminal, power for various automated people movers, etc). Airports have not made any attempt to stop people from using the power outlets in public unless the wire poses a danger to people tripping.

I mean, they could easily buy a cover with a key and install it on their outlets if they were adamant about people not using them. Honestly, I think this will be the next thing (along with free Wi-Fi) that airports will offer to attract airlines and customers. What's the sense of free wi-fi if everybody's battery is dead?



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User currently offlineIwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Quoting Memphis (Thread starter):
I was thinking of maybe a "business center" in the airport.

Well, until the airline friendly fuel cell comes along, you'll have to resort to "socket hunting". Get to your gate early, and quickly scope out a socket and plug in. Be prepared to sit on the floor in the middle of traffic if needed.

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 8):
In fact, this is the best advice. It's not so much finding an electrical outlet, it's finding one that's not already being used. Take a small one into two adaptor with you.

Another great idea is to get USB chargers for all your cell phones, PDAs, razors and assorted electronics goods. That way, you only need one AC adaptor for your laptop.

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 13):
Hmmmm, Sounds fishy. Where was this located? I wouldnt think the runway lights plug would be located in a public area.

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25 JGPH1A : You need an adapter for Empower ? I just use my normal US 2pin plug lead and my normal power supply, it works fine. As for finding power, just go to
26 Zippyjet : In ATL there's a place called "Laptop Lane." I believe it is in concourse A or B one level up from the food court. Of course they charge for your ser
27 Post contains images SashA : I suppose there're plenty of outlets around the lounges as the cleaning staff have to plug their equipment (vacuums, brushes etc) somewhere. However,
28 N328KF : While not the initial reason the outlets were placed there (they were for vacuums), I'm sure the airport authorities are perfectly fine with passenge
29 Birdbrainz : You make it sound like passengers are stealing your personal supply of electricity, and depriving you of yours. Honestly, in the big picture, the amo
30 RussianJet : You're right, but technically they could probably argue it's stealing. After all, for more serious reasons laws exist to deter people from stealing a
31 NYC2theworld : They could argue anything, however, I would argue my points in post 23.
32 Planeguy727 : I have noticed that an increasing number of outlets are being covered with solid plates. I ask a friend that works at one of the airports doing this a
33 Itsnotfinals : You do not need a surge protector for most all mobile phone and laptop power supplies, just a plug converter, if you look at most power supplies thes
34 USFlyer MSP : MSP recently redid the food court in northstar crossing so that there is a free power outlet at every seat.
35 RussianJet : Maybe, problem is this - they own the airport, not you. And, they set the rules, not you.
36 NYC2theworld : ...but their complacency in not posting any rules about not using power outlets would be an issue. You must make an effort to inform the users of you
37 Post contains links and images Max999 : They have these Samsung laptop charging stations in every JFK terminal...it seems like the costs of running these things are supported by advertising.
38 Whappeh : I know there is a place in PWM for you to do "Business" work, that is a sure fire bet. I see people using the plugs in the terminal all the time, nobo
39 Post contains links Lincoln : Actually, now that you mention that, PLN (Pellston Regional Airport of Emmet County, Michigan) has a very nice "business center"-type area...complete
40 Cjbmibe : While I understand like you BAA are out to get everything they can from pax I do not work for them or in one of thier airports. BAA used to stand for
41 Birdbrainz : I'll agree on both points. One should not create a hazard. I was using BAA losely. I should have said, "the folks who run the airport." Have you even
42 NYC2theworld : Which would then defeat the purpose of providing free wi-fi. I think free wi-fi with " target=_blank>http://digital50.com/news/items/PR/2....html is
43 RussianJet : At STN that would actually be a fantastic idea - most of the carpet in the airport is filthy and has chewing gum mashed into it. And it stinks. Anywa
44 Post contains images Afay1 : And of course there aren't any airport employees anywhere that use outlets to recharge their own electronic devices (the ones who aren't too busy rifl
45 Kalvado : Quick calculation: 50 W charger, 1 hr connection (and my laptop is drained while on board) - 0.05 kWh, with my last electric bill of $80 for 440 kWh
46 VC10BOAC : Amateurs. I have you all beat. I once almost unplugged a 747 from the sky. I was in the toilet and noticed a big red and orange plug with a "Do not R
47 Cpw : LGB is one of the more laptop-friendly terminals I've come across. I don't think they still have free wireless, but there are quite a few outlets in t
48 Post contains images Trekster : I have snagged outlets in the gate area at lhr waiting for a flight dAN
49 OB1504 : Do you think maybe all the runway lights at an international airport aren't controlled by a single plug? I've used them tons of times at MIA, and I'v
50 Post contains images RICARIZA : Avianca´s terminal in BOG has a special place for it, called: "Recharge Yourself" (In Spanish: Recargate)
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