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Manston Airport Expansion  
User currently offlineBoeingluvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3276 times:

Alright so here's a good question for everyone. Every airport around London seems to be under massive or has had massive expansion such as Luton, Stansted, Gatwick etc... I've been curious as to why there has been no Manston expansion. I know it may not be right in the London area but with a train service and some development it could take some pressure and ease off of the other airports that have ever increasing traffic stats. I'm not sure perhaps it isn't economical but with a new terminal and some transportation I'm sure that'd be a great airport in Kent for the LCC's to start flying in and out of. Granted this may be stupid or some of you amy think I'm a retard or idiot for asking this and maybe there's something else behind this I'm not sure of. But I just thought that may be a good idea. They have such a long runway, I'm sure it wouldn't be a bad idea to have another Bournemouth (Hurne) airport or Luton or Stansted on the southern coast in Kent. I randomly see Virgin and BA and some others doing training in their 744's and A340's but that seems to be all that goes on there. Any comments?

[Edited 2007-07-21 07:51:07]

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User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3264 times:
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Maybe because:

Quoting Boeingluvr (Thread starter):
Every airport around London seems to be under massive or has had massive expansion such as Luton, Stansted, Gatwick etc...



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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3256 times:

They tried it a couple of years back when a few routes opened up but it soon tailed off.

User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3233 times:
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Lets just remember EUJet.
They tried, they failed.

Its just too far to be a London airport anyway,

London Manston to Piccadilly Circus - 74.9 miles http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=e...8348&spn=0.280047,0.6427&z=11&om=1

London Stansted to Piccadilly Circus - 37.2 miles
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=e...=0.278966,0.6427&ie=UTF8&z=10&om=1

London Gatwick to Piccadilly Circus - 30.7 miles
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=e...427&ie=UTF8&cd=1&mpnum=0&z=10&om=1

London Heathrow to Piccadilly Circus - 17.1 miles
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=e...=0.554997,1.2854&ie=UTF8&z=11&om=1

Its just not located very locally to London.

Kev.



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User currently offlineBoeingluvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

I can see the sense you're making from this. It was just a question. I just thought with the train service already in th UK that perhaps a train service to there would be beneficial in some way but I do realize it would cost a lot and maybe there is no point to it. And I doubt the reason they are not doing it is due to the expansion to the other London airports. They expand to meet capacity and traffic but I can't see that being the reason for Manston not being looked at. Is it basically just used as a training airport or is there any other purposes that Manston is regularily used for?

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3216 times:
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Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 4):
Is it basically just used as a training airport or is there any other purposes that Manston is regularily used for?

Cargo and aid flights.



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3207 times:

Another forum spoke of Manston as a UK REGIONAL airport. Apparently the airport has sent out questionnaires with a series of routes (Off hand I believe MAN, DUB, EDI were on there). Apparently a British airline is in talks with MSE...

Let the speculation begin!

I'm personally not believing it to be FlyBe... maybe Eastern...?


User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

When EUjet was flying, their DUB route apparently did well, as did a few other routes. I'd like to see Eastern or Flybe flying from Manston. Maybe Manston should be looking for FR to fly from their?

User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 6):
I'm personally not believing it to be FlyBe... maybe Eastern...?

I can't see Eastern starting up there. Where would they fly to?


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7628 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

I suggest FR  Wink

The distance would be normal for them


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7704 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3091 times:
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I really can't see Eastern going into Manston. For that matter, I doubt very much if anyone will in the near future. However, if anyone was going to do it I reckon FR would.


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User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 9):
I suggest FR

The distance would be normal for them

 Smile MSE did actually used to be called "London Manston" despite it's distance. I think it's trouble is it's stuck out in the middle of nowhere with no decent road or rail links to be a viable business. EUJet tried and failed, although recently some charters have been operating. Monarch were supposed to be operating a widebody to Norfolk, Virginia IIRC but it fell through due to lack of interest.

I believe that there is quite a NIMBY oposition to expansion as the town of Ramsgate is right at one end of the runway:

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/LHRjc/mse.jpg

It's a bit like the not too far away Lydd (London Ashford) Airport which was having it's runway extended for 737 operations, but nothing seems to have come of this either and last I heard they were making a round of redundancies.

While it would be nice to see services revived at MSE I can't help but think it's not going to happen. Freight operations seem to be going from strength to strength however.



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

I agree with the Ryanair idea... they have a habit of flying into "the middle of nowhere" !

Also, they're well established... whereas EUJet weren't.

So what could well end up happening is someone from Kent going to Ryanair's website to book a flight from STN, then realising they can do it from MSE instead and going for that option!


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4922 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 5):
Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 4):
Is it basically just used as a training airport or is there any other purposes that Manston is regularily used for?

Cargo and aid flights.

Plus three passenger charters a week in summer

MSE is really only suitable as a passenger airport to serve the needs of East Kent - a small LoCo operation to the main Spanish destinations, DUB, EDI, AMS, JER and Poland probably could work, but nothing more. Cargo wise there is more potential to act as London area airport



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User currently offlineBoeingluvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

Looking at that map and the last time I was there, it seems as though there is tonnes of potential for expansion at least for cargo ops, if not also more commercial routes. It wouldn't surprise me at all. Doesn't have to be considered a London A/P but could service southern Kent quite well for both cargo and commercial service. What a great approach too. Right over the coast of Southern Kent on short final!! I'd love to fly into Manston.

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