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Here They Are... The New UA Biz Seats!  
User currently offlineUNITED777300 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 131 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22241 times:

Well, UA's finally let the cat out of the bag... here are the new biz seats:

Big version: Width: 1920 Height: 1080 File size: 170kb


And the accompanying press releases:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070723/aqm071.html?.v=14

http://suitedreams.united.com/


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User currently offlinePlanecrazy2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22232 times:

Wow!!! Great work United!


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22217 times:

Now that the news is formally out, I'll post the new aircraft seating configurations.


B763
Current: F10C32Y151
New: F6C26Y151

B777
Current: F12C49Y197 + F10C45CY198
New: F8C40Y214 + F8C40Y221
Different versions have to do with crew rest facilities

B744
Current: F14C73Y260
New: F12C52Y310



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User currently offlineORDflier From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22199 times:

Very nice! Look better than any of the other US Carrier products either out there... or soon to be...


ORDflier
User currently offlineUNITED777300 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 131 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22199 times:

Personally, I'm amazed that UA is increasing the Y cabins. Despite that, these new products in First and Biz are excellent- Good Work United!


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9708 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22085 times:

International United Business seat amenities will include:

-- Forward- and rear-facing seats configured to allow customers to
completely recline 180 degrees to a full 6-foot, 4-inch bed
-- Four-way lumbar support and six-way adjustable headrest
-- An ottoman providing additional storage for a laptop or other personal
items
-- Ergonomically designed tray table that comfortably accommodates a
laptop and other items
-- iPod adapter that enables customers to play their own music and videos
on the seat's entertainment unit while recharging the iPod
-- Universal Serial Bus (USB) port to charge personal electronic devices,
such as personal digital assistants, mobile phones and digital cameras
-- Standard 110v power outlets requiring no adapter
-- Adjustable LED reading light with dimmer
-- Noise cancelling headphones



Oh my gosh, those seats are fully flat. I'm really surprised that United went for that. They really might struggle with competing with their first class. This looks really good although they are copying BA with a rear facing seat. They are definitely beating AA. UA and DL will have the best product in business class in the United States. I wonder how they can justify that.

Will 767s and 777s be different?

[Edited 2007-07-23 07:11:35]


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22031 times:

Hope they will install private TVs and AVOD on every single seat next step!

User currently offlineORDPIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21993 times:

Great Job UA!! Cant wait to try it out.


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User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21949 times:
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HOLY CRAP!!!  eyepopping  Those PTV's are HUGE! THE SEATS ARE NIIIIICE!  Cool


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User currently offlineBjornstrom From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21937 times:

Looks surprisingly good for a US carrier!

What's the rollout schedule? I presume that the 777's and 747's are getting them first. How about the 757's on P.S. that I usually ride SFO/LAX-JFK?



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20791 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21904 times:

Interesting that the seat configurations will have whole rows facing backwards, unlike how BA does it with alternating seats within the rows forward/backwards.

Seat maps may be viewed at the links here:

http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/united/28964/



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User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21841 times:

Quoting Bjornstrom (Reply 9):
How about the 757's on P.S. that I usually ride SFO/LAX-JFK?

I'd guess to heavy for the plane. Sticking with what you got.

piercey in CLE  Sad



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User currently offlineA2 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21841 times:

Good job UA!!! I personally am very surprised with the selection. Guess I wasn't expecting much from a US airline.

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20791 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21824 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
B744
Current: F14C73Y260
New: F12C52Y310

Looks like Economy Plus will be reduced as well.

747-400 configuration:

Old: 14F/73C/88Y+/172Y
New: 12F/52C/70Y+/240Y



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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21824 times:

Quoting Bjornstrom (Reply 9):
What's the rollout schedule? I presume that the 777's and 747's are getting them first.

1st plane out will be a 767 in the early fall, quickly followed by a single 744 and 777

Quoting Bjornstrom (Reply 9):
How about the 757's on P.S. that I usually ride SFO/LAX-JFK?

I hear some other plans are afoot for p.s.



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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21782 times:

Looks good, but good luck getting to the bathroom if you're seatmate on the aisle is fully reclined and sleeping

User currently offlineUAORD2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21736 times:

I am really amazed by this. United is finally going to be competitive with the best of 'em. Truly amazing!!!

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21803 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21691 times:

Seats look great, but do the PTVs extend out on an arm or something? They look awfully far away to me (not just a UA thing - other carriers have it as well, only that this is the first time I've gotten around to asking the question).

-Mir



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21655 times:

VERY NICE INDEED! Amazing. Well done UA.

User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21643 times:
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Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 15):
good luck getting to the bathroom if you're seatmate on the aisle is fully reclined and sleeping

Good point... how would one go to the lav??



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User currently offlineMarkHKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21552 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):
Interesting that the seat configurations will have whole rows facing backwards

Interesting observation. That also means that UA will need to update their safety videos and safety cards in order to reflect the different brace position for aft facing passengers.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21803 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21552 times:

Quoting HowSwedeitis (Reply 19):
Good point... how would one go to the lav??

Step over them. Not a perfectly ideal solution, but that's one of the drawbacks of flat beds - they take up space.

-Mir



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User currently offlineLHRBlueSkies From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21522 times:

Quoting UNITED777300 (Reply 4):
I'm amazed that UA is increasing the Y cabins.

Doubt it very much...more like same amount of floor space for all cabins, allowing better seating in F/J and standard cram-them-in Y-style! Big grin

Ok, so the biz seats are improved. Now, let's spend some money working on the inflight service (and that of ground staff) and maybe UA can truly compete!  Wink



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7759 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 21492 times:

These look Amazing!!! Better than anything the American based carriers can do so far!!!

Now if we could just get them to put PTV's of some kind on the 744's then we would be set!!



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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 21408 times:

With only 8 seats, I wonder if management at UA spent long hours debating whether or not to just completely do away with the F cabin. What will be the incentive for passengers to spend the extra money for F (which will apparently be closer to other airlines' J) when there's a lie-flat seat and a big TV (albeit with a bit less privacy) a few rows back for a lot less money?

The real news here, IMO, is the expansion of plain ole economy. The perception I'm getting from UA is this: "We've introduced a so-so new F product and a new J product that will be industry leading for about 6 months before being leap-frogged by other US carriers. While we can hold our own against other US-carrier premium cabins, we will never be able to compete with the amenities offered by a growing number of European and Asian airlines. So how can we make money internationally? With cargo and by competing for price-sensitive economy passengers."

[Edited 2007-07-23 09:06:08]

25 SU : Congrat UA! - can't wait to try them! Love the colors
26 Post contains images N751PR : I never really did chime in on the other thread so I might as well do it here: Very nice! Good job UA and B/E Aerospace!
27 Zrs70 : Looks real nice. BUT, how does the guy in the window seat get out? Looks like a difficult jump over the aisle seat?!
28 CX 4ever : Very wonderful seats! I never expect something like this to happen on United Airlines. Apart from the slightly lack of privacy, this new design is tot
29 N1120A : Looks like they got what they needed, research-wise, out of p.s. Good to see United adjusting the capacity to that aircraft upward. This is going to
30 OB1504 : Reminds me of a recent flight where I found myself in a similar situation. I simply stepped onto the armrest between the two seats, and then jumped o
31 Post contains links Planenutz : I poked around this link http://www.suitedreams.united.com/ and listened to the statements by UA's executive team. I think that its pretty admirable t
32 UAL4ever : Finally, a business class that will be on the highest level. As a United Premier Executive who flies United Business class on a regular basis I am qui
33 Stylo777 : great seats, looks like the biz seats of etihad EY
34 HowSwedeitis : What is that?
35 N1120A : The middle status in their FF program.
36 Trent1000 : How can you say that? I know that's your opinion, but how can you make a statement about service standard based on a new seat design? I think that UA
37 Keesje : Ambitious. The electronic suit seems to be matching todays best also. At first glance a seat superior in specification to e.g. AA, DL, BA, VS, NWA, J
38 N1120A : Dude, you totally read my post wrong. I was talking about how United can justify keeping their separate F cabin along with this new business class. R
39 PVG : DId they have a choice? They are so far behind (especially against their Asian competitors) that they had to for it. Looks good and competitive again
40 UAL777UK : YThe seat looks absolutely fantastic, well done UA, by far its going to offer the best J seat of any US carrier IMHO. So pleased they did not go with
41 Post contains links and images QatarA340 : Looks EXACTLY and even better than emirates First Class on its 77W!! View Large View MediumPhoto © Sam Chui :D Striking resemblence... Makes EK's
42 Readytotaxi : Well done United, now Continental what are you going to do with your tired product?
43 Post contains images SFORunner : We all know CO and UA will merge, and as a consequence, the CO birds will receive this new product!
44 Post contains images Keesje : It will be interesting to see if First class passengers will be able to justify the say $5000 extra for an "even better flat bed" on top of these new
45 Post contains images HowSwedeitis : Mmm, I disagree; (I like the drink options on Emirates!!!)
46 CX777Fan : UA have to do a lot of work on service, catering and entertainment fronts before coming anywhere close to competing with many European and most Asian
47 Trent1000 : Well I did read the original post and your comment was vague In reply 38, you clearly explained what you meant. I also think you are the first person
48 Post contains links and images UnitedTristar : NA...Graham Atkinson has been with UA for years...Rachel was brought in by Graham from Disney for his new "Customer Experience" division who is sole
49 Post contains images SASDC8 : Wow.. Must say that I think UA's new premium seats look great At least a lot better than I thought it would look. Cant wait to give them a try Would t
50 Post contains links and images Keesje : I wonder if American airlines misjudged the situation. The just launched their new business class, flat angled seats. I think it is not possible to m
51 Star_world : You have clearly never flown EK F. Or that is some Qatar vs. UAE comment - this new product just about brings UA to the level of some of the EU / ME
52 Christiaan : Thank god!!!! Now I can have a bit more comfort when traveling home to SYD on UA....nice work!!!
53 UAL777UK : He IMHO, should replace Tilton when he decides to go. Not sure they will do anything dramatic but UA have clearly raised the bar and AA will have not
54 FLYGUY767 : It would appear as if United Airlines is trending away from the First Class product.. Indeed the seat looks very good.. I am only praying that the Cu
55 ATLflyer : This photo is not exactly the same as what is on the International FIRST section on suite dreams. Looks like they changed the seat covers and added m
56 Post contains images OA260 : Yipeee Those seats are cool. 90% of my TA trips are on UA in J so I cant wait to get on those!! Brilliant choice by United.
57 ATLflyer : Can someone explain to me how their forward and rear facing configuration will work? I know BA does this but all of their seats alternate. From the pi
58 Coal : Or maybe just keep First to a handful of premium routes where some folks might actually shell out the extra cash? I know SQ does that. Albeit it ther
59 UAL777UK : I am wondering why they dont reconfigure the entire long haul 777 fleet to include the crew rest underfloor area?. Is that simply a cost issue?
60 RoyalAtlantis : With that type of fully flat seats - does that mean that UA will be eliminating the "middle seat" in business on their 772/744 and shift to 2-2-2? Did
61 Post contains links ATLflyer : I answered my own question: http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/united/28964/docs/28964-B777_XJ_LOPA.pdf[Edited 2007-07-23 17:15:25]
62 Post contains links and images ATLflyer :
63 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : 2 4 2 on the 777 in J class... -JD
64 Airlinemodeler : I think these would look great in my livingroom. The wife said hell no. Oh well, never know till you ask.
65 Coa747 : American screwed up plain and simple. You aren't going to win premium passengers if you aren't willing to spend some money up front. They went for a m
66 JGPH1A : OK so next question - will they be fitted on UA901/28JUL FRA SFO ? Make it so number one ! UA current C product looks rubbish. ...and they look terrib
67 FLYGUY767 : 100% Agreed.. With the advent of the new Northwest Airlines, Delta Air Lines, and United Airlines J class seats there is a game of catch up that need
68 MaverickM11 : That's what I was thinking...plus many travellers hate the backward facing seats. UA, however, may have found in focus groups that their travellers w
69 RoyalAtlantis : WOW - they managed to pull of a BA with the 2-4-2, that's impressive if they pull it off. I don't think the BA seats feel tight in the middle of the 4
70 AA787823 : Far superior to the crap product AA just introduced....Once again AA is two miles behind the competition......
71 UAL777UK : Not a chance, the new J seats not starting to go in until the final quarter and then it will begin with the 767's. Read the full press release.
72 Gh123 : How are you supposed to get out if you are by the window?
73 FLYGUY767 : They are not.... In addition the seats on EY let the person next to the window use the restroom.. They are not.... Egress is denied from the person n
74 FLYGUY767 : They are not.... In addition the seats on EY let the person next to the window use the restroom.. They are not.... Egress is denied from the person n
75 Post contains images Piaflyer : holy crap, excuse me for my language but oh my god, nice job united. i will be traveling in those 4 times a year every year
76 AeroWesty : It looks like the 744 will be United's "people mover", since the 772 didn't change as radically. Y+ will be nearly a 1:1 ratio on the 772 in the new
77 Ohsopc : Do you think they will charge you more for the forward facing seats?
78 AADC10 : It all seems a bit narrow, particularly in the 772s since they will be adding one seat abreast on those and the 744s. The switch on the 744s in seat m
79 UAL777UK : Now, now try and be positive.....I think the curviture of the foot rest is specifially designed to allow a gap in between the seat so you can step ov
80 FUN2FLY : As a premier exec who flies to Asia and has a hard time getting business class seat availablility on many flights, I think UA has done the unthinkabl
81 Laxintl : The 767 cannot handle the current F suite available on the 777 and 744. There was never any talk they would not be able to handle the future IPP conc
82 PanPan : I don't know if they've misjudged the situation at all they're betting that their frequent flyers are going to like more upgrades vs a more comfortab
83 Platinumfoota : Yes!! Great job United, the seats are just great. I like the idea of less seats in the aircraft, it serves less people but with better service. Expect
84 Apodino : And USAirways just upgraded their C class cabin as well. Makes me wonder if they should have waited for this.
85 DL767captain : What do they plan on doing to first class to compete with this now?
86 RwSEA : Wow, great job UA! These seats look great, and I'm glad to see that UA did it right rather than pulling an AA and doing an "upgrade" on the cheap that
87 MaverickM11 : Anybody else notice that this comes the day before their quarter earnings call? Anyone think this preceeds good or bad news for tomorrow?
88 Post contains links Laxintl : New F class was announced last year. http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2...pdate-new-united-first-class-seat/
89 UAL777UK : Depends which way you look at that arguement. Sure if your travelling on say DL, AC, VS and alike on your own thats fine, but if your with a colleagu
90 UA76Heavy : Looks terrific BUT there will probably be fewer business seats for FF members to upgrade to. Right now your legs fit under the back of the person in f
91 MaverickM11 : Which could be a good thing if it forces more people to actually by the fare class that gets you the Biz seat....
92 ATLflyer : " target=_blank>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2...seat/ They actually have slightly changed it since this rendering. Look at the link to Internat
93 Sean-SAN- : Add me to the list of perplexed over why UA would decrease J inventory... Which is often very full on Asian flights especially. Not only that, but add
94 Ebs757 : yeah they look nice but I wonder how comfortable they are. Anyone else notice how narrow those look?
95 Flighty : UA is getting smarter. J class defines United Airline's image to their best clients. It better be good. UA is smart to cram as much Y class in there a
96 N174UA : I'm sure USA Today will do an article about how substandard these seats are, and how terrible United is tomorrow morning. Seriously though...these sea
97 EKSkycargo370 : How the hell do UA afford to get new biz class seats,the financial ruin they are in?
98 Sllevin : United's also taking a significant capacity hit that AA decided not to take. United may well have misjudged the money customers will pay (and fundame
99 Laxintl : New seat width is actually wider then the current biz seats. 23.5" vs current 20.5" on 777 and 744, while a significant improvement over the 19" on t
100 Flighty : That is a great point. I think the answer goes like this. UA knows it is worthwhile to spend on a good J class. The other airlines, who don't spend e
101 Boston92 : Can we stop the ignorant comments now? UA has over $5,000,000,000 in cash.
102 Flighty : Really? Oh, I was mistaken then. The 777 Y seat count grows by some 20% so I figured Y was getting tighter. No? Well, if UA is pleased with it, then
103 Klkla : The new seats definitely are a giant leap forward and long overdue. As a 1K I have the following concerns, though: #1 - There are a lot fewer Business
104 N1120A : I am from Southern California. I call everyone dude Perhaps they want the extra cargo space? It did add a fair bit of capacity, however. Which is bey
105 UAL777UK : Wey Hey, once again another snipe against UA, they really did get to you didn't they......please change the record! How wrong your statement is, its
106 JAL : I must say those new seats looks really nice!
107 CuriousFlyer : 8 abreast, ouch! I wonder whether I would not prefer a seat that does not recline all the way but with only 6 abreast: I always slept like a log on Co
108 Laxintl : Some funny comments from FF'ers. Many complained that United had a 3rd rate business class and was falling further and further behind. Now that the co
109 AADC10 : It is wider at its widest point including the amrest and divider, but space is taken away at the feet and around the head. Seating on the 772 and 744
110 NonRev : As a former employee, and still my favourite airline, well done guys! Saw the F seat in Chicago in December and this C class seat is truly worth the w
111 UA76Heavy : According to United.com, the reduction in number of business seats are as follows: B744 - 21 (from 73 to 52) B772 - 5-9 (from 49/45 to 40) B763 - 6 (f
112 Halls120 : As a frequent upgrader, I was initially taken aback when I heard several weeks ago that UA was decreasing the number of biz (1st on the 752) class se
113 Goomba : and what about the improvements to come in economy class? The 777 PVT's are crap, the 767's don't have PVT's in economy and none of the 747's do eithe
114 N1120A : How? 72 hours is supposed to be the window. The last two strike me as a space issue while the 744 reduction seems to be a rationalization of capacity
115 Halls120 : Used miles on the outbound leg. A very few seats are always available for miles upgrades if you book early enough. I'll use 500 mile upgrades for the
116 UA772IAD : First will be upgraded (though it doesn't look too different). The main difference will be the service levels, or at least that's how its "supposed"
117 Evan767 : Props to United. I'm jealous for United's product compared to Delta's.
118 B52overSMF : I've always wondered with seats like this, what happens when the person in the aisle seat is fully reclined and the person in the window seats needs t
119 ATLflyer : How wide will the new First and Business Class seats be on the 767? Also, anyone know what type of fabric they will use on the Economy seats? From the
120 ContinentalEWR : Kudos to United. The seats look terrific and very much on par with competitors from Asia and Europe. I always thought United Business was actually pre
121 Isitsafenow : While on the early July Airliners tour of the AA maintenance base at MCI , we got a close look at AA's new Biz seats. I like em better and as most of
122 Post contains images 777fan : It's about time UA vaulted back to the top in terms of initiative, style and panache. Let's see if the level of service will be able to keep pace with
123 Joeljack : So United is upgrading all of their widebody fleet with these seats?? What are they doing with their domestic 772's for Hawaii and other short hopes a
124 Laxintl : Domestic 763s and 772s remain as is. This is upgrade simply applies to the international widebody fleet. There however will be some configuration chan
125 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ..and if Y+ is a loser, we wouldn't be seeing the VS's, BA's, NZ's, etc. of the world having Y+.....I've read a number of times that both BA and VS m
126 UnknownUser : You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 767s as do int'l 777s have PTVs in Y. Whaaa Whaaa Whaaaa!!! The customers ensure you have bene
127 PlanenutzTB : Now if United could improve their customer service at their India call center. The bottom line is customer service and the front line is the reservati
128 Post contains images UA772IAD : Ummm, not reall complaining. Just a simple fact, less seats up front means less upgrades for all- revenue AND non rev. By all means the seat is all t
129 UA772IAD : While it certainly doesn't look spacious to climb over your seatmate, it looks like you could awkwardly climb over the leg rest, if you lowered (or r
130 Boston92 : Yeah...but added on more seat abreast. In my mind...the major decrease on the 744 was needed and the decreases on the 772 and 763 were minor, and wil
131 MaverickM11 : The article says they're retrofitting 97 widebodies with the new seats....which begs the question which widebodies aren't getting the refit? According
132 Boston92 : The domestic 772 and 763 (two class ones that stay in the 49)
133 AA 777 : Wow! I'm not one to usually stick up for United, but they really have something here! Kudos United. Leads me to wonder how much finger pointing was go
134 Flyjetstar : Watching the promo stuff on the website, the United music has almost reached iconic status. I think I could hear that music anywhere and think of Unit
135 Post contains images Nimish : Here's the proposed layout... I wonder if the round semi-circles are the "head" part of the seats?
136 Skytony : It looks like that there will be windows in the lavs on the 777 in business and on the 747 in first class. Do you think that is part of the enhancemen
137 Keesje : I can't find the reason why they placed seats backward facing..
138 Spink : Looking at the seats, it appears that they are wider at the head than at the feet. Also notice that the config is offset between the middle and outsi
139 Post contains images Keesje : Thnx, you seem to be right. Minimum aisle width is required to be 20 inch at any place, but the aisle doesn't have to be straight. The widest seat pa
140 TreeHillRavens : Yes. They are.
141 MaverickM11 : Right but hwo many of each are there? Surely not all 19 non ER 772s?
142 UA772IAD : Optimize the aisle space, as the seats aren't perfectly straight. It probably makes the cabin look less cramped, as pod style C class seats tend to d
143 WN230 : I really like the Ipod adapter thats in the seat, if you don't like the onboard entertainment, just hook up your Ipod and then you will have very good
144 FLY777UAL : Just curious as to the weight of these seats when compared to some of the other possible options which United could have been looking at (such as the
145 Ckfred : AA figured out several years ago that coach passengers, international and domestic, weren't willing to pay higher fares for more leg room, so MRTC wa
146 Flighty : Sure, that will hurt a few miles burners out there. That is true. But upgrades don't pay for fuel at $76/bbl. An unpaid J class passenger is a financ
147 Post contains images UnitedTristar : the majority of upgrade certificates are given to corporate customers who will either buy the C seat if they didn't have the upgrade space or the pas
148 LH417AF025 : these are the exact same things that i thought when i first saw the new C class seat. does anyone know the exact list of differences in between the n
149 Boston92 : The differences between the seats are actually pretty major. The main difference is privacy, space, and comfort. Just look and the two seats side by
150 Navymmw : I dont mean to start a fight here but I dont think that DL business class beats AA's new Business class, United sure does but I just dont think that
151 Ord : Maybe you're thinking of Delta's current "refreshed" Business Elite seat. The all-new, lie-flat seat, to be out soon, is much nicer than AA's busines
152 Jacobin777 : VS, BA, NZ have shown that it has been profitable to add E+ and now QF is going to be adding it to their long-haul fleet also. On the other hand, AA
153 Abrelosojos : = It will take a LOT more than a good J class seat for UAL to be competetive with the best of them. Don't get me wrong ... the J seats are a great im
154 Tsaord : With all these lie flat seats...whats the difference between F and C nowadays? Tv;s in both, nice food in both, lie flats in both?
155 Abrelosojos : = Fly SQ, EK, 9W and you'll see the difference. -A.
156 Post contains images Navymmw : ohh, your right. I just looked at Deltas new Buisness class seats and they are much better then AA's, hopefully AA is thinking about changing their s
157 Xjramper : What I wonder is how they went from having 2x3x2 to having 2x4x2 seating. Is the seat width being reduced that much to accommodate an extra seat? XJR
158 Aerohottie : With such a large capacity gap between the 744 and 772 of 108 seats, could this be room for a possible 773 slot with capacity of around 318 (10, 46, 2
159 DALelite : Well done, United!!! cheers: DALelite
160 FlyTUITravel : Very nice seats! Looking very comfy indeed! I wonder who makes these seats? FLYTUITRAVEL.
161 Skytony : B/E Aerospace is the seat manufacturer.
162 UAL777UK : BE Aerospace in Northern Ireland
163 Skytony : B/E Aerospace is the seat manufacturer.
164 Amirs : those are probably one of the BEST J class seats out there. Better than BA - looks roomier and no backwards flying Better than CX, VS , NZ, DL, etc ..
165 Post contains images Amirs : i didnt notice they wioll have 4 seats in the middle when will 744 get these seats?
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