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Who The Heck Is "Freedom"?  
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

As I was peacefully flying IAD->RDU on UA265 today, I did what most aerogeeks do: monitor Channel 9.

"This is Freedom 65, we have lost our hydraulics."
"Copy. You've lost your hydraulics?"
"Well, half of 'em..."

For a moment I thought that was our pilot but after a while I could hear he was saying "65" and not "265". My heartbeat slowed.  Wink

After we landed, I saw "Freedom 65", a 737 Classic, being followed by the fire trucks. Completely white with no markings apart from a reg (too far to make out).

So what airline is "Freedom" and why do they have all white aircraft? There is a "Freedom Air" but I didn't think they flew 737s.


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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1583 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

According to the latest JP book, the callsign of "Freedom" belongs to Freedom Air based out of Guam. The callsign of "Freedom Air" belongs to Freedom Airlines that operates ERJ's for Delta Connection. There's probably no chance of these two airlines being in the same airspace at the same time.  Smile

A Mesa Airlines flight operating for United Express had a problem at IAD earlier today that made the news. Their callsign is "Air Shuttle" though.



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User currently offlineXJET From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2803 times:

Could be a military flight of some sort. Freedom Air definitely doesn't have 737s. I don't see anything on Flight Aware showing a B732 landing near the arrival time of UA265.

User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3347 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

Well, there's Freedom Air of New Zealand, which flies 737s (assuming that the other "Freedom Air" you're referring to is the Mesa Airlines subsidiary):


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Maybe she was stripped of all markings and in the process of being ferried to a new owner or to the lessor?


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 1):
According to the latest JP book, the callsign of "Freedom" belongs to Freedom Air based out of Guam. The callsign of "Freedom Air" belongs to Freedom Airlines that operates ERJ's for Delta Connection. There's probably no chance of these two airlines being in the same airspace at the same time.



Quoting XJET (Reply 2):
Could be a military flight of some sort. Freedom Air definitely doesn't have 737s. I don't see anything on Flight Aware showing a B732 landing near the arrival time of UA265.

Thanks for info. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a 732. Looked like a 737 Classic (300/400/500). It probably landed shortly before us (we landed ahead of schedule around 145p).

The callsign was definitely "Freedom", not "Freedom Air". As for a military flights, this might make sense. I seem to recall they said they had 90 souls on board.



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User currently offlineNelsonde From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Freedom Air 6040, an ERJ from FLL, landed a couple minutes after you did at RDU, could this have been it?

[Edited 2007-07-23 23:09:36]


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Quoting Nelsonde (Reply 5):
Freedom Air 6040, an ERJ from FLL, landed a couple minutes after you did at RDU, could this have been it?

Maybe. He may have been saying "19 souls", not "90 souls" like I thought.  Wink



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