Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Aer Lingus New USA Routes  
User currently offlineAkersoid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

Hey all,

Happy Christmas !

Just wondering about new routes to US for Aer Lingus. Already they operate to six US gateways :

JFK
ORD
BWI
BOS
EWR
LAX

Now with joining Oneworld and all that have they any new US routes planned ?
Personally I thing it definitely time for a schedlued

DUB - YYZ

Anyway anyone any ideas or photos ?


16 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineNeo From Brazil, joined Jan 2001, 672 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

Yeah they definitly need to start service to Canada.

Also i would recomend service to DTW or PHL!!!

Neo


User currently offlineAs16 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

Surely florida is an obvious choice.
BTW I flew dublin to BHX this morning, and saw 2 a330's for the first time. Fine lookong aircraft.
Oh and if that wasn't good enough I saw the Emirates landing in BHX aswell.


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

Aer Lingus definately has to start flying DUB-YYZ, I'm sure they'd be very successful, because AC hasn't started flying the route yet, I'm sure they will in the future, Aer Lingus can establish themselves first...


Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineEI133 From Ireland, joined Jan 2000, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

I dont think EI will start flying to YYZ.If they were going to fly that route they would have done it before now.Their last flights to Canada were in the late seventies and early eighties when they used the 707s sometimes routing Dublin Chicago Montreal.Dublin is linked with Toronto in the summer using a variety of Canadian charter airlines.I remember Air Canada flying in here in the eighties using 747s and767s.If I hear anymore news on a DUB YYZ start up I will keep you posted.EI133

User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6229 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

They should start flying seosonal flights to Orlando and Miami . I also believe they should start flying to Montreal and Toronto .


Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineRAI From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

I don't know about Toronto. It doesn't have the Irish population of, say, New York, Chicago or Boston. You'd probably see them in San Francisco or Philly before Toronto.

User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1385 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

Merry Christmas Everybody

As regards EI's next Transatlantic move, Canada could well be the next stop. The reason is because Ireland and the US still have an outdated airspace policy. i.e. no open skies. Only 5 gateways were suppose to be served from Ireland under the current agreement, so when Washington/Baltimore came up, EI had to apply for special rights to fly the route, as it was the 6th gateway. The right was granted, but until the current agreement is changed to allow more favourable conditions for American carriers serving Ireland, I can't see any more routes being granted. As far as I know, Canada falls under a different airspace category, so Toronto, or Montreal could well be on the cards.
If the agreement was changed, then certainly, SFO, or maybe Dallas with the American codeshare, cetainly not Florida as was suggested, for one simple reason - Money. Florida is a tourist destination, airlines make their profits from Business class passengers, even Virgin flew their Orlando route as a charter one, it simple doesn't pay dividends to have a plane fly there with economy full, and Business class empty, when you can fill Business class, and half fill economy to some where like Dallas or San Francisco.

Just my Two cents..

Pilot21



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6229 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

Pilot21 I said SEASONAL.That means the season when they see that traffic is at its best . Example summer or something like that . And planes from Florida to Ireland in summer can be filled ,Believe me they can.


Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12565 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

The Shannon issue is expected to come to a head next year. Basically, all other EU nations, except Ireland, want Open Skies with the US. The Irish minister, Mrs O'Rourke, has opposed it. Basically, she knows it's on its way out, but for electoral reasons, she has to be seen to do her best to keep it alive, even if it means wasting everyone else's time.

Unfortunately, even if a decision is made next year, it will still mean quite a wait, as it will take some time for the full open skies agreement to be negotiated. However, once this is done, there will be a fairly strong growth in t/a ops from Dublin and there will also be pressure on the Irish government to review its bilateral with Canada, the EU:US agreement obviously not having any impact on the Canadian situation.

I would expect to see the new flights in place by Summer 2002.







User currently offlineBaec777xx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1582 times:

OneWorld Alliance.... they should do DFW !!!!

Baec777xx  


User currently offlineAkersoid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Happy christmas to all,

Personally id like to see FCO but the problems there have already been pointed out.

Is there any chance EI might drop EWR and concentrate on JFK ? That way it would free up another gateway - at least until the free skies agreement is sorted out.

Thanks for alll the replies, but i still beleive YYZ could carry enough traffic to become profitable.

Enjoy the turkey,

Ak


User currently offlineBaec777xx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

check this plane out....
Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Colin Abbott



Where did Aer Lingus 747s went....?
Did Aer Lingus retired their 747s or are they still using it....??

Baec777xx  


User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1757 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1535 times:

definitely DFW!!! airlines have been flocking to DFW...Air France, Sabena, and Aer Lingus would make a nice addition. if they didn't start service now, then they should when DFW opens its new International Terminal. BTW when is that supposed to open? Blink182? Also i think KLM should start service to DFW if/when they get the 777s..if not then they should at least use the 763ER.. 

jderden777



"my soul is in the sky" - shakespeare
User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

Florida is not as big a long shot as many suggest. Aeroflot had good loads on the Shannon-Miami segments from Moscow to Latin America, even occasionally operating stand alone SNN-MIA-SNN charters. Granted, low-yield traffic is higher that elsewhere but does offer higher yield traffic to/from Latin America as a plus, something that other destinations don't.


My definition of cool ? Not trying so hard to be cool.
User currently offlineAkersoid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1496 times:

Hi to all,

just to answer Baec: Aer Lingus operated until the mid 1990's three 747-100s on their JFK and BOS routes. They sold them off in 1994,1995 and i think 1997. I have no idea who they were sold to. Aer Lingus replaced them with A330-300s. They now also operate the A330-200 ( on the LAX and ORD routes ).

DFW sounds good alrite but is there any support for SFO? After all Ireland is the Silicon Valley of Europe and SFO is Silicon Valley's main transatlantic gateway. i don't think PHL is an option: after all Aer Lingus serve 4 airports already in that region.

Thanks for the replys, kep em coming !

Ak


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24961 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1496 times:

It depends on which cities have the largest Irish Populations which are currently not being served by EI, does DFW have a large Irish Population.
BTW, does AA operate to Ireland?



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004 posted Thu Jul 1 2004 20:05:21 by Mcmahonsmr
Aer Lingus To Add 4 Routes From ORK posted Mon Aug 23 2004 16:16:57 by 7LBAC111
Aer Lingus New Service posted Mon Jan 26 2004 05:33:17 by Mcmahonsmr
Aer Lingus - New (Downgraded) Economy Service posted Wed Dec 31 2003 16:36:33 by Teahan
Aer Lingus New C/s..? posted Wed Mar 19 2003 09:59:51 by Spotterboy
Aer Lingus Launches Five New European Routes posted Fri Jul 15 2005 15:55:48 by MarBergi
Aer Lingus Announce 2 New Routes posted Sat May 21 2005 16:49:10 by MCMAHONSMR
New Aer Lingus Routes From Dublin posted Wed Oct 27 2004 15:03:46 by Murtagh1108
Three New US Routes For Aer Lingus? posted Thu Mar 18 2004 18:39:08 by Kaitak
New Aer Lingus Routes For 2004! posted Fri Oct 3 2003 17:43:57 by Kaitak