C010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3512 posts, RR: 21 Posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2156 times:
As it seems, GOL is the first airline to officially transfer operations from CGH to GRU. All transfers from all airlines until this point were improvised.
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11200 posts, RR: 61 Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2019 times:
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Nice to see some plane upgrades on other airports as they need the 73G fleet to run CGH flights.
Gol also reduced it's GIG-GRU-LIM service from daily to 6x weekly.
TAM should announce it's changes also later tomorrow.
Felipe
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C010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3512 posts, RR: 21 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1955 times:
Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 2): Sorry if i have missed something, but shortly, can someone give some feedback of this sudden movements? Is CGH closing?
I'm sorry, if I wasn't clear enough, but what I meant was that some flights are being transferred, but not all of them. Above you see which ones get transferred.
Incitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 3777 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1870 times:
Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 3): I heard they were trying to clear congestion at CGH.
Airlines may also be anticipating public reaction to the TAM accident. A considerable percentage of passengers may reject the CGH product in the aftermath of the accident, especially in times of bad weather.
C010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3512 posts, RR: 21 Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1856 times:
Quoting Incitatus (Reply 5): Airlines may also be anticipating public reaction to the TAM accident. A considerable percentage of passengers may reject the CGH product in the aftermath of the accident, especially in times of bad weather.
Anticipating? Passengers have even come to the point of making scenes at the airports, because the airlines wouldn't rebook them on other flights. Where have you been the past week?
Photo of CGH today:
Credit: Luiz Escada
Source: Contato Radar
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5126 posts, RR: 53 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
Thanks all for your feedback! So its all about clearing congestion at CGH, avoiding landings during wet weather conditions and more... as long as safety records keep clean, good for G3 and JJ!!!
g77
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XA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1659 times:
All this sudden change of operations and sort of migration from CGH to GRU !!!
How is this going to affect Guarulhos and all the international ops there ? I mean, will slots allocated to international carriers are to be adjusted ? Furthermore, how crowded will GRU get and how authorities are to cope with this, both on the ground and in the air ?
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RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6140 posts, RR: 25 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1639 times:
On another thread - GRU is a mess today with multi-hour waits at security, changing flight information, people sleeping on the floors with length delays.
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4022 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1628 times:
Quoting C010T3 (Reply 6): Anticipating? Passengers have even come to the point of making scenes at the airports, because the airlines wouldn't rebook them on other flights. Where have you been the past week?
Photo of CGH today:
Is this photo taken from the crash site???!!
Seriously, how far down the road is the crash site from this photo? And what is the current status of the site - have the pulled down the TAM building yet or are investigators still inside the remains? Has the aircraft wreckage been removed yet?
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11200 posts, RR: 61 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1498 times:
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Quoting XA744 (Reply 9): How is this going to affect Guarulhos and all the international ops there ? I mean, will slots allocated to international carriers are to be adjusted ? Furthermore, how crowded will GRU get and how authorities are to cope with this, both on the ground and in the air ?
Guarulhos will become a nightmare for travellers. And without Vip line for C/F, even a Top costumer need to be ready for long lines on Security, long delays on domestic flights on remote positions (because of the lack of equipment), delays on baggage claims.
Also for push-back, taxi and take-off, during peak hours (late afternoon and night), expect some delays as GRU, despite keep 2 runways (9/27L and R) they are closer than 760m and because of that can't run simultaneous operations.
Felipe
New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
Cmtehori From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 12): despite keep 2 runways (9/27L and R) they are closer than 760m and because of that can't run simultaneous operations.
BTW, can anybody explain why the airport was originally built like that? I know the air base has always been there, and there was only one rwy (09/27 - maybe 08/26 at the time) which later became 09R/27L if I´m not mistaken. Why building the other one so close together? Is there a good reason why? I don´t remember to ever have heard/read about it. It seems like one of those things nobody can explain!!
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11200 posts, RR: 61 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1104 times:
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Quoting Cmtehori (Reply 14): BTW, can anybody explain why the airport was originally built like that?
Cmte Hori, several people in Brazil, specially Infraero, believe they can build a model of "perfect airport"
I never saw this on A.Net but i just comment on other thread:
We create four divisions in an airport (Domestic / International - Boarding and Bag Claim/Disembark) .
Because we do not screen pax on some airports, as we are smart, we put additional screenings at CGH, GRU and GIG and force even who has been screened to do it again. And sometimes those X-Rays become available... while long lines are formed for the others.
GRU land space is not the best one and in fact is a bad project as they could just build the terminals 100m behind allowing the 2 runways to become operational all times and even on same time.
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