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Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3816 times:

Tough to believe that July 25 makes seven years since the tragedy that was AF4590.



Rest in Peace Sierra Charlie, and all of those who died with you on that horrible day.  Sad

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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3794 times:

Hi Fred,

Geez. 7 years already. I remember it as if it was yesterday...

RIP.

Tony  Sad



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2690 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3756 times:

Remember it like it was yesterday.....RIP  Sad

KPDX



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User currently offlineLHRBlueSkies From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Ditto.

And it's a shame that such a beautiful bird was 'brought down' by politics and issues that weren't of her own making.

RIP Concorde - come on Sonic Cruiser!



flying is the safest form of transport - until humans get involved!
User currently offlineVivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 527 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

This incident really sounded the death knell for the Concorde and the era of supersonic passenger travel. Any plans of putting the Concorde back in the air even for demo/publicity flights?

Don't know if we would ever be able to fly on a supersonic passenger aircraft in our lifetimes!


User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3669 times:
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Quoting Vivekman2006 (Reply 4):
Any plans of putting the Concorde back in the air even for demo/publicity flights?

Uh-oh..... don't ask! Big grin Just read this thread:

The Return Of Concorde To The Skies... (by Jenkingeorge Jul 8 2007 in Civil Aviation)

On the topic in hand.... 7 years. Doesn't time fly (no pun intended), RIP all lost that day.

RIP F-BTSC.



I came, I saw, I Concorde! RIP Michael Jackson
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21081 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Very sad to remember those events - I remember watching the news that evening.

RIP F-BTSC.  Sad

-Mir



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User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3645 times:

Very Sad for all - RIP  Sad

User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3629 times:
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Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
Rest in Peace Sierra Charlie

Here here... A sad day for all of aviation.  crying 

Quoting LHRBlueSkies (Reply 3):
RIP Concorde - come on Sonic Cruiser!

Let hope so! "The New Boeing 797!!!"  crossfingers 



Heja Sverige!!
User currently offlineIndustrybuff From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2003, 347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

This was a horrible day ... I remember it clearly, me and my best friend Angela were in Mexico City
and we had boarded a JAL B747-300 for a flight from MEX to YVR and then onto NRT.

Boarding was fine - so too was the taxi. We commenced the takeoff roll and about 25 seconds into takeoff
the number 4 engine caught on fire, a loud bang went through the cabin and we aborted takeoff....
quite a scary situation.... the fire was extinguished and we limped back to the gate ...

After we disembarked we walked into the terminal in MEX and the crash of Concorde was just being
announced on the TV sets.... we were still shaken by our own issue and then to see the beloved
Concorde has crashed was a surreal and horrible moment...

We remember all passengers, crew and those who lost their lives in the ground.

Industrybuff


User currently offlineJasonMiller From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

I will never forget that horrible day.

Concorde Crash (by Cedarjet Jul 25 2000 in Civil Aviation)



[Edited 2007-07-25 10:29:30]

User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2690 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

While were on topic with the Concorde, look how awesome she looks on takeoff from JFK!

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircra...sh_Airways_Aviation_Video-270.html

KPDX  Smile



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

A former collegue of mine was responsible for a lot of Concorde work since the early seventies. He told me it was a highly motivated team that gave their best to make it happen and strongly identified with the aircraft. He was on the official goodbye flight and was close by when it crashed. He heard the bang and it strongly influenced his live. I have driven by the crash site many times, last years it was still fenced and still people could be seen looking for fragments.

User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2753 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3496 times:

Wow, 7 years already. May they all be Resting in Peace.

I clearly remember that day. I was back in Ireland on holidays and had brought my wife (then girlfriend) down to visit Kerry and the Cork area for a long weekend. We we're driving back to Dublin somewhere nearing Wicklow when the news came on the radio that an AF Concorde had crashed. Shock hit me... how could Concorde crash?! I put the foot down on the accelerator (within reason) to get home to see the news on TV, entered th kitchen where my dad was in the kitchen glued to the TV with a tear in his eyes.



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3456 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 1):
Geez. 7 years already. I remember it as if it was yesterday

Yeah, same here.

RIP  Sad


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

25 July 2000 - the Concorde crash.

Capt.Christian Marty is a hero.

RIP all on AF4590.

www.prisedevue.com/photos.../index.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...july/25/newsid_2797000/2797965.stm

Dies illa, dies irae,
calamitatis et miseriae,
dies magna et amara valde.
Dum veneris judicare saeculum per ignem.
Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine,
et lux perpetua luceat eis.



[Edited 2007-07-25 12:07:00]


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3422 times:
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I remember the day.

In fact, just 10 days earlier, Concorde G-BOAA was at Exeter for the weekend and I came to see her. I remember watching behind the video camera as she took off from Runway 08. Little did I know that this would be the last time I saw a Concorde take-off. She landed here some 90 minutes later after one of her "Round The Bay" pleasure flights. We then left for home.

10 days later, and it was the last day of school, we broke up for the summer holidays on 25th July 2000. I got home at 3:50pm and turned on the TV, and put on Ceefax as I used to do to check the news. I got halfway through reading the headline when it suddenly changed to "AF CONCORDE CRASHES IN PARIS"

I could not believe what I was reading, and at first thought it was some mistake, as the initial reports were saying that "it is believed one of Air France's supersonic jets has come down after take-off in Paris." To me, "it is believed" isn't a strong enough evidence. Unfortunately, it turned out to be true. Initial reports were also pointing towards a catastrophic engine fire as the cause. However, as soon as my father (an aircraft engineer) and I saw the first pictures, we both saw the fire was not coming from an engine but from a fuel tank, and that the left hand main undercarriage seemed smaller than the right, suggesting tyre failure. As it turns out, we were speculating in the right areas, but the reality is a sequence of unique, catastrophic circumstances brought down a remarkable airliner.

Concorde, you are sorely missed. I hope all the museums preserve you for eternity, as you deserve.



I came, I saw, I Concorde! RIP Michael Jackson
User currently offlineEmiratesCPH From Denmark, joined Feb 2006, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3344 times:

I will always remember that day  Sad

It was my 22th birthday and also on the day of the crash I was out with some friends for a movie. We wachted FINAL DESTINATION. The very first one with the flight crashing on the way to Paris.......After we saw the movie we heard about the mishap.

A strange day.



Fly Emirates
User currently offlinePplsxprs75 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

One of my coolest memories was when I was in elementary school and the big news in Columbus was that the Concorde was going to make a visit at CMH. We all gathered in the play ground because we had a really good view of CMH, and watched her take off from there. This was in the early/mid 80's. It was a really cool experience. At that time CMH was REALLY tiny. Still not a big airport, but then it was at least a third of the size, with the Rockwell plant next to it.

What a sad day when she went down.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13042 posts, RR: 78
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

Naturally enough, I remember that day all too well.

However, while it was a severe blow to the aircraft, the real death knell was the business environment after Sept 11th, BA (and AF too), had their re-launch plans wrecked by that event, chuck in naturally rising costs of supporting such a tiny fleet of unique aircraft, and you have a 'perfect storm'.

But yes, BA alone must have lost around £30M of expected Concorde revenue during the grounding, add in the £17M of the return to flight mods, neither airline did the difficult, unprecedented mod programme, just to fly another two years.
But the prospect of recouping this in revenue, in the new world after Sept 11th, became suddenly distant, even without all the extra costs.

RIP to all those lost, I don't want myself to go into the ins and outs of the crash itself, it's been done plenty of times since, one 'goundhog day' subject (can it return to flight?-No), on Concorde is enough, for me at least.
Besides, while the technical part of the investigation is long done, the French legal system's judicial part is not, consider how one on an A320 accident in France in 1992, only came to the fore much more recently, in judicial terms.

I've linked it before, but this 12 page piece on the return to flight effort, written in 2002, also illuminates important aspects of the accident, if this subject interests anyone, this is as good a place to start as any;
http://www.concordesst.com/returntoflight/rts/rtsindex.html

[Edited 2007-07-25 15:09:34]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 12):
He heard the bang

...that's interesting.

What so many eyewitnesses to the crash report in tandem, was their surprise at the lack of a loud/expansive "bang" upon impact.


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

7 years.

Wow, seems like last week. Remember that picture all over the papers the next day, the video footage and the reports.
 Sad


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