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QF 747-300 Damaged..May Never Fly Again!  
User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33366 times:

Hi there Ladies and Gentleman.

Just to let ya'll know, a 747-300, I think rego is VH-EBX, was seriously damaged in MEL whilst being loaded by cargo handlers. Subsequently the aircraft is currently being looked at and evaluated weather to fix and put back into service or to scrap.

Currently a 2-class 747-400 will be operating the MEL-PER shuttles.

Cheers

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User currently offlineMiami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33352 times:

I belive there is a very large tear down the length of the fueslage and a cargo door was ripped off. Lets hope they scap that beast, the less we have of those nightmare aircraft the better.

User currently offlineGoingAround From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33262 times:

Surely this will class as QANTAS' first ever total hull loss?

Wasn't there an incident some years ago with a B744 in BKK that was damaged on landing and QANTAS paid close (or even exceeded) the amount for a new aircraft to maintain their status as the only National carrier never to write off an aircraft?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I can't remember the full details,


All the best,
Alex


User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33262 times:

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 1):
I belive there is a very large tear down the length of the fueslage and a cargo door was ripped off. Lets hope they scap that beast, the less we have of those nightmare aircraft the better.

AMEN...Miami1


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20632 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33240 times:

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 1):
I belive there is a very large tear down the length of the fueslage and a cargo door was ripped off.

The 743 is a very long aircraft. How is damage that extensive accomplished by "cargo handlers"?



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User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33216 times:

Quoting GoingAround (Reply 2):
Surely this will class as QANTAS' first ever total hull loss?

Not quite sure, i donot know the definition of "hull loss" (If it has to be powered etc..), but it was damaged on the ground whilst loading for the afternoon flight was occuring.

Either way...expect delays as we are VERY low on aircraft at the moment! Especially now, since cabin renovations are getting done!

Cheers

[Edited 2007-07-26 01:05:43]

User currently offlineKieran74 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2007, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33163 times:

can anyone get a pic? Am curious to see what damage there is.

User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33107 times:

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 1):
nightmare aircraft the better.

What exactly is so nightmare about the 743's  Confused . Sure they're getting on a bit, but they were very well looked after.

Regards, JetMech



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33041 times:

Quoting GoingAround (Reply 2):
Surely this will class as QANTAS' first ever total hull loss?

Of a jet aircraft perhaps. They have lost a couple of aircraft back in the early days.


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 33041 times:

Quoting GoingAround (Reply 2):
Surely this will class as QANTAS' first ever total hull loss?

Wasn't there an incident some years ago with a B744 in BKK that was damaged on landing and QANTAS paid close (or even exceeded) the amount for a new aircraft to maintain their status as the only National carrier never to write off an aircraft?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I can't remember the full details

I beleive that this only applies to Jet aircraft ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_fatal_accidents ) but that link is to Wikipedia so it may be nonsense!


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25300 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 32963 times:

Quoting GoingAround (Reply 2):
Surely this will class as QANTAS' first ever total hull loss?

As I recall, QF had several hull losses, and several fatal accidents, in their earlier days when they were operating local services in Papua New Guinea etc. with DC-3s and smaller types. They haven't written off any jets, although the 747-400 at BKK came close.


User currently offlineGoingAround From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 32897 times:

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 9):

I beleive that this only applies to Jet aircraft ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_fatal_accidents ) but that link is to Wikipedia so it may be nonsense!

Ahh, I didn't think it would have been their first ever complete hull loss.

Thanks for the wiki link,

Alex


User currently offlineHKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 32849 times:

That's sad news. I'm kinda glad I did my 743 flights to PER this past week!


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User currently offlineTom12 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 32805 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):
As I recall, QF had several hull losses, and several fatal accidents, in their earlier days when they were operating local services in Papua New Guinea etc. with DC-3s and smaller types. They haven't written off any jets, although the 747-400 at BKK came close

Yep, the claim that QANTAS make is that they have never had a fatal accident with a Jet powered aircraft. There have been a few accedents where there has been a loss of life, not in the jet era though.



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User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 32805 times:
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I went down to YMML and saw EBX looks it bad shape, Most likley to the scrap.

User currently offlineHKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 32731 times:

Quoting AeroplaneFreak (Reply 14):
I went down to YMML and saw EBX looks it bad shape, Most likley to the scrap.

Could you elaborate? How big is the gash? Did you get any pics?



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User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5659 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 32205 times:

Quoting JetMech (Reply 7):
Quoting Miami1 (Reply 1):
nightmare aircraft the better.

What exactly is so nightmare about the 743's . Sure they're getting on a bit, but they were very well looked after.

Regards, JetMech

I'm with you JetMech. After the cabin refurbishment in 03/04 they are very comfortable aircraft to fly in. Flew SYD-NRT-SYD at Chrismas 04 and had a great trip.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineHKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 32154 times:

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 16):
After the cabin refurbishment in 03/04 they are very comfortable aircraft to fly in. Flew SYD-NRT-SYD at Chrismas 04 and had a great trip.

I agree. I flew 743's to PER and back this past week and it was a great experience. To be honest as a passenger, if I didn't know I couldn't pick the difference between QF 743's and quite a few airlines' 744s (esp the early ones). I'd even think the 743 was quite new!

If the MEL incident was indeed VH-EBX, here's a pic of her I captured in PER on Monday (just 3 days ago!) as she arrived from SYD.
http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/kitkat271/aviation/2007_07_Jul/qf743_ebx_per1.jpg



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User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 32135 times:

There are photos on this website. It doesn't look as bad as many of the doomsdayers on this site are suggesting!

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=285434


User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 32024 times:

Quoting Airnewzealand (Thread starter):
Subsequently the aircraft is currently being looked at and evaluated weather to fix and put back into service or to scrap.



Quoting Miami1 (Reply 1):
I belive there is a very large tear down the length of the fueslage and a cargo door was ripped off. Lets hope they scap that beast, the less we have of those nightmare aircraft the better.

From the face value of those photos, that damage is definitely reparable! Even though the 743's are old aircraft, there is no way that damage is extensive enough to be uneconomically repairable, or warrant the scrapping of the entire airframe. I'm still not sure what you guys have against the B743 and what is so nightmarish about them. If anyone should be complaining about nightmares, it would be the engineers that have to repair the corrosion in the airframes of these older aircraft. Believe me, I have seen many 744's that are in far worse condition than any of QF's 743's or 742's

Regards, JetMech



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3642 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 31922 times:

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 1):
I belive there is a very large tear down the length of the fueslage and a cargo door was ripped off. Lets hope they scap that beast, the less we have of those nightmare aircraft the better.

Judging by those pics, the cargo door is intact and the gash is maybe 6 feet long at the absolute most....



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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 31869 times:

what I've heard is that it will be difficult to repair due to it being length wise and past a construction joint and through to wing fairing, accountants will undoubtedly decide the fate of Wodonga.


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User currently offlineHamster From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 31322 times:

What do you think happened that this cargo loader did that? What do you think caused this accident? How do they fix it?

User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1644 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 31187 times:

Quoting Hamster (Reply 22):
What do you think happened that this cargo loader did that? What do you think caused this accident?

According to PPRUNE, the brakes failed on the loader, and the driver bailed to avoid being crushed.



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User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 30963 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 20):
Judging by those pics, the cargo door is intact and the gash is maybe 6 feet long at the absolute most....

Depending on whether the damage to the skin is over a pressured space or not, it is a simiple, to not very difficult repair. They will probably reskin a couple panels, replace the cargo door only because they are QF. Plenty of airlines would patch it..

I really, really, really doubt QF would scrap an airplane with that sort of "extensive" damage.


25 Airnewzealand : Mate, I gave you credible information...I said "MAY" be scrapped...never that it would. Dont pull at straws and make me sound like i was being too dr
26 Philadelphia1 : Someone's getting fired......
27 Jbernie : I would say for QF with the amount of free aircraft they have around, fixing it might be in their interest so they can get a big aircraft back in the
28 United Airline : Where do they fly their B 747-300s to?
29 Poitin : They can have it fixed in a week, without putting in over time. They could even fly the aircraft with temporary patches on a ferrying flight if need
30 VHVXB : SYD/MEL-PER
31 Zeke : I would agree, not that hard to pick up another cargo door off a scrapped classic either, I would think that would quicker and cheaper than repairing
32 Gemuser : Plus MEL-AKL-LAX on somedays of the week Gemuser
33 QANTAS077 : alot harder to repair when its ripped through a construction joint.
34 Rsg85 : So this happened last night? Where is the aircraft sitting now?
35 APChigoSea : ]Quoting JetMech (Reply 19):From the face value of those photos, that damage is definitely reparable!I would agree, not that hard to pick up another c
36 Valley1 : Now - What if this happened on say a B787 composite fuselage, how big a deal would the repair be then ??
37 XT6Wagon : For a surface breach/crack glue on a patch, have a nice day. Which would likely apply to this situation assuming of course that the door doesn't need
38 ComeAndGo : you just take some crazy glue and your done. Two seconds. Violá.
39 Geo772 : Spot on there. I saw a 767 a couple of years ago that had damage that didn't look as bad as this and was grounded for a long time to have frames, str
40 Jetfuel : If it is repaired it is MONTHS not days
41 FlyTUITravel : I remember a BI 767 (V8-RBG) had a tug driven into its belly a few years back in LHR, that plane was repaired and the damage was pretty bad..........
42 EI321 : AFAIK, EI have never had a jet written off either.
43 Burkhard : Carbon and Glass is harder than Aluminium. Interesting, I learn something new every day. Or is it that laws of nature can be changed by marketing hype
44 Lufthansa : i think the main problem the FA's have is they're dealing with older galley equipment etc... and they've got more passengers on the 743 to attend to.
45 Jetfixr757 : Guys, that aircraft is way repariable, judging from the photos it can be done, i have seen worse repaired. Jet
46 CXfirst : I wish I wasn't on holiday in Norway right now, I want to get a biz class ticket in the skybed. Too bad about the 743, but thankfully it wasn't a 744
47 Steveb772 : I had a very pleasant trip on VH EBU "Nalanji Dreaming" SYD-NRT in 96
48 Norcal773 : Not necessarily. If the story about the brakes going south on him and he bailed are true, the union will come in handy, for once. To LAX as a sub som
49 Tom12 : What happened with that Alaskan MD-80 when the baggage truck hit it, IIRC it took-off and had to make an emergancy landing? Did they fix it? Tom
50 Quetzal : For anyone that is panicking about the fate of EBX, all is not lost! Was chatting away earlier this evening to some credible sources. EBX will be repa
51 Irobertson : Woo! Great news! Keep the classics going.
52 Baroque : Only if there are any left after stapling all the ground handlers within range! I wonder what would have happened with the same impact on a plastic f
53 Quetzal : I'm just on my way downstairs to do an experiment on my Hyundai. Let you know in a half hour!
54 United Airline : ONLY THAT? More than that I guess? From AKL?
55 AirPacific747 : AKL-LAX non-stop?? Isnt that very close to max range of the 747-300?
56 Quetzal : Hi United Airline, Yep, The -300's are pretty much only operating between Perth and Melbourne/Sydney and for a limited time they replacing -400's on A
57 Da man : I highly doubt QF will pull EBQ off static display since she has been there for a number of years. Also, are the 743 pilots and FE's able to fly the
58 BeechNut : While I agree with your post I think whether it is repaired or not will take some accounting. The market value of a 747-300 is probably not that grea
59 Smcmac32msn : If anybody gets fired, and the operators story is true.... the GSE guy should get the axe.
60 IFEMaster : I doubt it. The brakes failed on the equipment and driver bailed to prevent himself/herself from being crushed. Doesn't sound like a firing offense t
61 747727 : I really hope they don't scrap this lovely old 747. The 300's are rare so it would be a shame to get rid of it early. I would love to fly on one of th
62 OzTech : Is there any chance you could qualify your statement my friend... RR engines for a start are the easiest in the world to maintain and change (747)..
63 APChigoSea : The biggest selling point of cfrp from a maintenance standpoint is corrosion or lack there of I should say. The older an aircraft gets the more it co
64 Gilesdavies : The gash does not look too bad... My mate is a professional welder, I am sure he could weld a plate of metal over the top and then Bobs your Uncle and
65 ClassicLover : hahaha - nice one! And people believed you... I worry!
66 Jetfuel : Nah..just bog it up with body filler, paint over it and then sell it off to an Indoensian Airline maybe
67 Ravel : I would like to remind you that Finnair, too, has never had a hull-loss incident (and no fatalities) since it got its first jets.
68 OB1504 : Did you even read APChigoSea's post?
69 Norcal773 : LOL, I think the guy was kidding.
70 Post contains images Baroque : Be kind to your Hyundai! I guess what you do in the privacy of your garage is your own affair.
71 Airnewzealand : LMAO...You are too funny!! And patches wont do...Its more serious than that!
72 SEPilot : Hardness is not the issue; in fact aluminum is one of the softest metals there is (lead is the only one I can think of that is softer.) Toughness is
73 Quetzal : I wonder if anyone has thought of calling McGyver? That guy can fix anything with a stick of chewing gum and a paper clip.
74 QF772 : If it was CFRP would there still be the potential of internal damage caused when the hull deformed despite the hull springing back to its original sha
75 Quetzal : If EBX is to be parted out after all, do you think it would likely happen at Tullamarine or would they patch it up just enough to ferry over to Avalon
76 Loran : I was chatting to the Flight Engineer when I flew PER-MEL last month (VH-EBY), and he said they are kind of jumping in everywhere where needed, opera
77 VHVXB : True in December and January it will be operating PER-JNB as well
78 Gemuser : No. Nalanji is too far gone is what I've been told. Undoubtedly! Both QF's and the insurances company's. An extra point of consideration in this part
79 Quetzal : As seen driving Monaro's around in circles in Brighton-Le-Sands on a friday evening. Good point Gemuser about the shortage of 'longer haul' capacity.
80 Post contains links and images Pilotdude09 : The other big problem is the interior its still fitted out in the 80's style, and would cost a couple of million to install a new interior. And peopl
81 QantasHeavy : QF must be feeling the pinch for jumbos... A380 delays not helping. Glad a 744 is on the job now = SkyBeds and AVOD to Perth.
82 Post contains images EK413 : Word going around at work this birds days have been numbered and that she might become tin cans... EK413
83 QF744ER : I'm suprised QF didn't jump at the chance to pick up a couple of used B744's earlier this year. QF worked their B744 extremely hard and when one goes
84 Baroque : So would it be time to play "Roll out the barrel" and how exactly can that be done even if you have a replacement barrel it seems like a major proble
85 Zkpilot : I've been away for a week and was in MEL today and was wondering why there was a 743 parked up where it was... now I know! This means that QF is down
86 Quetzal : Perhaps if Singapore Airlines and Qantas merge their code would be SQF? FJ's 744's are 747-412's.... SQ birds.
87 EK413 : Perhaps QF will turn towards AC once again to assist with the short fall of airframes... QF did back in 2001 when Ansett collapsed and QF was in need
88 VH-BZF : I spoke to a source down in Melbourne re: the accident & he told me that the bloke driving the cargo loader has 13years experience & jumped clear as t
89 Scorpy : What sort of hours do the QF 747 have on them?
90 Zkpilot : I never looked up the type numbers.. did QF ever operate them after SQ had them? FJ is half owned by QF and I had heard they had leased aircraft off
91 SEPilot : It would obviously need to be inspected; but I strongly suspect that if the skin can resist damage the underlying structure can as well, but the poss
92 Scorpy : So do you think it will be worth their while to do these D checks, or will it be bye-bye 743, like the one that they recently got rid of? Also, once
93 Tod : Why? The Boeing Everett faciltiy is designed for production, they do repairs but it is not their strong point. Plenty of other facilities can do just
94 Baroque : That presumably is what will happen to the 747. I was wondering about the hypothetical if the cargo loader had gone berserk coming up to a 787 - what
95 Pilotdude09 : Hope so because they suit the route so to speak. They perform well and are always full or close to being full.
96 QF744ER : The FJ B744's are suppose to be going back to SQ in 3Q 2007 for BCF conversion...where they end up is anyones bet. The QF B743's are also doing SYD-PE
97 AirTran717 : The 747 is a nightmare??? That's a new one.
98 AirTran717 : "Amazing how things get exagerated. A thread on airliners.net has the plane torn open from end to end and the cargo door laying on the ground"... That
99 Airnewzealand : LMAO...Exactly where the information came from! If you read my post you will see i wrote " Subsequently the aircraft is currently being looked at and
100 NZ747 : The two particular aircraft in question are still owned by SQ and leased to FJ. Ansett Australia had both of them before they collapsed and then they
101 Scorpy : Didn't they just sell another one since they are now down to four and had six originally?
102 Post contains images Zkpilot : Yeah QF won't stump up the $$$ for a D-check on them unless there is a sudden demand for freighters which I highly doubt (especially classics requiri
103 Pilotdude09 : I guess they will have to add 3-4 more flights a day if they do that just on MEL-PER alone! cause the 743's are always full. Same with SYD.
104 Post contains images HKGKaiTak : Well you'd just jack up the price on PER flights, I doubt QF really cares about capacity so long as they get the same profitability - bye bye cheap t
105 SpinalTap : Can anyone tell me if QF26 which departed LAX on Saturday 28th was a 743 or 744, it was originally scheduled as a 743. I received a message from my br
106 VH-BZF : My source in Melbourne tells me EBX departed for its ferry flight to Avalon on Saturday morning! Obviously not for the scrap yard just yet! Repairs ye
107 Gemuser : Good point! To a certian point a company should only care about a routes profitability BUT the rub comes in ensuring LONG term profitability. If Dixo
108 Pilotdude09 : Lol thats the Geoff Dixon way!! Dont think that would change capacity much, alot of Business flyers fly QF in J or Y for the f/f points and you see A
109 Simes : Well they do have those 3 second hand 744's VH OEB, VH OEC and VH OED. I'd not be surprised if they were hived off for the MEL/SYD - PER services.
110 Gemuser : Why pick those 3 in particular? They are about the same age as most of QF B744s, (around 1990) and are not uniquely configured or anything. Gemuser
111 Post contains images Tod : Nothing wrong with the "three ugly sisters" Tod
112 Simes : Not picking on them, just picked them purely because they are the 3 out of the 24 non ER 744's that QF didn't order, I'm not 100% certain on this, bu
113 VHNSJ : now if dj operated syd-per, and mel-per with the 777 when it arrives,as part of trans pacific services, the story might be different
114 Gemuser : Didn't say you were! Alright why "select" those 3? That better? Yes they were brought 2nd hand & do have GE rather than RR engines, but so what? They
115 Post contains images Zkpilot : I have heard that the non ER GE engines produce less power than the RR and have a lower SFC... As they wouldn't need to be lifting such a large load
116 Tod : Yes, but it would take 10-16 months to reconfigure one in a QF arrangment. Tod
117 BeechNut : Would be cool but I believe AC isn't exactly swimming in excess capacity, except perhaps during our winter up here. Beech
118 ZK-NBT : Was 743 VH-EBW. The 744's having less seats has nothing to do with the 743's going to LAX. But yes the 744's do have less seats than the 743's and di
119 Miami1 : The J/C PTVs are the same as Y/C - no AVOD. Larger screen though.
120 EK413 : Ex MH / OZ birds... These aircraft are highly utilized on the pacific routes as they are GE powered.... EK413
121 VHNSJ : anyone know which aircraft will be operating qf518 tommorrow night/monday morning?
122 777STL : Very true. It's not bad though once you figure out who actually knows what they're talking about, and who's just a 15 year old talking out of his ass
123 Zkpilot : Latest is that EBX will be out for another 6 weeks getting repairs done... (could be 5 weeks by now)... Boeing has sent out some engineers to help wit
124 Ek036 : why so long? Have to make everything up to qantas spec?
125 Flyboysp : Personally, i dont think it would take that, but it would all depend on what will be done on the aircraft. It could range from cabin layouts/configur
126 Zkpilot : More like 6-8 weeks for a complete interior refit. It took NZ 6 weeks for their refits of their 744s.
127 Airbus A3XX : Lastest news is that EBX could be out of the hanger by the end of this week.
128 Ek036 : why so long? Have to make everything up to qantas spec?
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