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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4229 times:

With the talk of new focus cities for G4, what are some ideas of existing cities that will gain the service to/from the PHX area or FLL?


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5724 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

I'd die if Allegiant did Tooele or Provo, Utah to LAS...


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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5124 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4165 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 1):
I'd die if Allegiant did Tooele or Provo, Utah to LAS...

Great, we have a cult offer here. LOL! Now that you mention it, Provo would be a heck of an idea!


I would like to see Allegiant try for the STL area. Lots of voids could be filled out there.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4113 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 2):

I would like to see Allegiant try for the STL area. Lots of voids could be filled out there.

They already fly to the St. Louis-area via BLV.



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4100 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 1):
I'd die if Allegiant did Tooele or Provo, Utah to LAS...

Go north instead of south from SLC.

Think Ogden to LAS instead of Provo or Tooele.

Ogden has spoken with Allegiant this year. I haven't heard if a yes or no decision has been made but understand G4 had some interest.



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2951 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4079 times:

I would think G4 could have a decent sized operation at Phoenix-Williams. Sky Harbor is quite busy now and Phoenix traffic continues to grow.

User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5724 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 4):
Go north instead of south from SLC.

Think Ogden to LAS instead of Provo or Tooele.

Ogden has spoken with Allegiant this year. I haven't heard if a yes or no decision has been made but understand G4 had some interest.

Can the Mad Dogs fit into Ogden? I've seen diverted Crj's and 732's (a while back when DL still sent them here) there, but Mad Dogs? Not yet...



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User currently offlineYNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 513 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3922 times:

Back when they were going to start-up on the NASDAQ, they showed a map of the nation with a symbol over cities that didn't even have service yet, but appeared to be close to gaining service, and there was one over top of Erie, PA.

I think Erie, Pennsylvania will be a good choice for Allegiant's services. It won't take away from any of the passengers that Youngstown, Ohio [YNG] gets and it would be the only LCC in Erie until you reach the likes of Cleveland, Buffalo, or Youngstown.

ERIE-PA is my guess of a future G4 city... But I'd also love to see RSW on there!



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User currently offlineSlcDeltaRUmd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

How big of a facility and gates do they have in las vegas and Orlando. I know most flights operate a couple of times a week but still looks like a lot of flights overall.

Any idea how may aircraft they operate?


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

Quoting SlcDeltaRUmd11 (Reply 8):
Any idea how may aircraft they operate?

Off the top of my head I think it is currently 29 aircraft with several more coming in the next few months.



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User currently offlineCitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3764 times:

I'd really like to see them at MGM. It's a growing market, both in terms of population and wealth. The FareMeasure numbers are awfully low, but it's presently a high-priced RJ market. Total catchement area is about 475,000. I really feel like G4 stimulation could support 2-3x weekly service to SFB and LAS...not as sure about PIE, FLL, or IWA.

User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 10):
I really feel like G4 stimulation could support 2-3x weekly service to SFB and LAS...not as sure about PIE, FLL, or IWA.

And it looks like, based on http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0730gr-newairline0730-ON.html, they are probably announcing IWA. If I had to guess:

TOL
LAN
Des Moines
FWA

Will be amoung the intitial destinations. Just a guess, but it would seem logical since you could start the service for the begining of the Winter Season.



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User currently offlineCitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 11):

Sounds about right...just wanted to note that I was referring to MGM as a possible outstation, not to the impending IWA/FLL focus cities.


User currently offlineAllegiantAir From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1733 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Just throwing out some G4 sized cities in the Midwest region.

Grand Forks, ND (GFK)
Eau Claire, WI (EAU)
Bemidji, MN (BJI)
St. Cloud, MN (STC)
Aberdeen, SD
Pierre, SD
Jackson Hole, WY

Just the first cities that came to mind, totally unsure if they would work or not.



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User currently offlineStapleton From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3641 times:

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 13):
Jackson Hole, WY

Jackson Hole can not handle the MD80. Too small of a year round population as well.


User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 13):
Grand Forks, ND (GFK)

It's only an hour's drive to FAR. I think it would just hurt loads from FAR and yields from both fields.

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 13):
Eau Claire, WI (EAU)

Sounds plausible, but does G4 want a second airport to draw from MSP (RST being the other)? I still think it could happen. CWA maybe? It's pretty much smack dab in the middle of the state.

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 13):
Bemidji, MN (BJI)

BJI is awfully small, and as with GFK it is reasonably close to FAR (2 -ish hours). People will drive quite some distance for cheap fares in NW-land.

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 13):
St. Cloud, MN (STC)

STC is ripe for the picking, but I think G4 may want to see how RST fares (and how NWA reacts) before adding a city that close to MSP.




Here are my completely uniformed ideas that are complete shots in the dark. They were mostly chosen by filling in empty spaces on G4's routemap. Feel free to criticize.


BGM - may not have a large enough population
Cheyenne, WY - It may be a little too close to FNL
LEX - may be a little close to SDF for comfort
BTR - airport fees might be too high
MQT - a true, absolute longshot.


User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 11):
And it looks like, based on http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0730gr-newairline0730-ON.html, they are probably announcing IWA. If I had to guess:

TOL
LAN
Des Moines
FWA

Will be amoung the intitial destinations. Just a guess, but it would seem logical since you could start the service for the begining of the Winter Season.

I would also think PIA would be at or near the top of that list, they are one of G4's top cities, also RFD too. I would hope to see CID service to IWA, the Phoenix area is one of our top o/d markets, and there have been efforts in the past to lure America West (now USAirways) back to the market (they discontinued service about 14 years ago). G4 could cover it.


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

Quoting Stapleton (Reply 14):
Jackson Hole can not handle the MD80. Too small of a year round population as well.

It can't? It handles 737s and 757s...

Anyway, how about HMT (Hemet, CA)? It's an airport in mid-Riverside County with at least 200,000 people within a 30-minute drive. The closest airport is PSP, which is over an hour away due to Mt. San Jacinto being in the way!

The only limitations might be the 4300 foot runway and the lack of a current terminal. Could a MD-87 do a 220-mile flight to LAS from a runway that short?



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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 16):
I would also think PIA would be at or near the top of that list, they are one of G4's top cities, also RFD too. I would hope to see CID

IF you go with those 3 and the 4 I thought of, that would be 8 cities...a good launch for a focus city



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User currently offlineFlyboy1108 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

There has been talk of at least FLL being added, though I've heard nothing official. All we were told was that G4 would be announcing a new destination from ABE by the end of the summer. When Southeast Airlines did the ABE-FLL run they filled 5 DC-9's a week, so we figure this would be a perfect run for one of G4's MD-87's. I'll keep you posted if I hear anything else.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3581 times:

Quoting Flyboy1108 (Reply 19):
There has been talk of at least FLL being added, though I've heard nothing official.

FLL is being added. Already added to crew bid sheets. It's just not "officially official", but we should hear something soon.



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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

ORF - has spare facilities for an additional airline but I think to Hampton Roads-Orlando market is pretty well served as it is, with WN, DL, and FL flying the route. There's a WN flight (ORF-LAS) but could an MD-80 do that leg? WN would probably slaughter them, anyway. Anyone at WN want to comment on how their ORF-LAS flight performs?

I think FSM, ILG, BGM, or CHO also are strong candidates for G4 service.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4717 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 21):
I think FSM, ILG, BGM, or CHO also are strong candidates for G4 service.

I agree.... add in maybe TXK or XNA too...

TXK XNA and FSM could each have SFB or LAS

If AHN had the runway it would be a good choice for SFB



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User currently offlineShannoninAMA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

Dang it! Big grin If WN didnt already run AMA-LAS i would be saying AMA.... silly 

Id say Grand forks,Des moines, and Fort wayne would be possible cantidates  Smile



Shan Big grin


User currently offlineLHPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

I'm hoping well see SLE (Salem, Oregon) to LAS in the near future.............

25 Stapleton : Yes, those are planes (737-800, 757, A319) with some power. The MD80 is not. It is the engines, not the plane.
26 SkyyMaster : Landing in a fully loaded 757 at JAC is an experience let me tell you. First time I flew in there, If there was 6 inches of runway left, I'd be surpr
27 Access-Air : Lets not foget Moline.....the despearatly need fights to the Phoenix area....CID wasnt the only city that lost that America West service..When CID we
28 FATFlyer : Personally I lean toward BLI getting flights to IWA.
29 LawnDart : American Airlines used to fly MD80s into Jackson Hole...granted, only over the mountains to SLC before continuing to DFW, but still.
30 Post contains images National757 : That's an easy one! G4 could probably fill up a 747 will all the demand from BLI. Any other cities you see G4 announcing? What about FNL and COS? Tho
31 RedTailDTW : I really hope that Lansing is one of the routes announced since I frequently fly that route. When will they announce it? Mason
32 JetBlueGuy2006 : Me to, and I am hoping when and if they announce FLL, Lansing get that one to. It would be cool to have 5 G4 destinations from LAN: LAS SFB PIE IWA F
33 Tornado82 : If so it would be Florida only, there's no way they'd make it to PHX or LAS off a 6500' runway. For that matter is the Maddog capable of making it do
34 MAH4546 : Not if they announce FLL. They are announcing FLL. Lansing, IMO, would be one of the more logical routes, along with Allentown, Greenville, and Green
35 JetBlueGuy2006 : You seem very knowledgable about G4, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
36 Stapleton : You are right, I stand corrected. American also used Idaho Falls as the stop for awhile. That all being said, the MD80 will not accomodate any sort o
37 Post contains links MAH4546 : I'm not knowledgeable about G4, but I know a lot about FLL. The announcement will hopefully come next week, they are still working on where they will
38 JetBlueGuy2006 : Thanks for the info. I would think FLL would be great for LAN, and a PHX flight would be great for snowbirds here in Michigan.
39 RedTailDTW : When are they gonna have that press conference? Im dying to know what the destinations will be. Mason
40 JetBlueGuy2006 : Ditto, I have been looking for a Press Release from either G4 or IWA, and I so far haven't seen anything
41 Buzz100ca : I know that Allegiant would not do the route but I wish somebody would fly MOD-LAS...
42 FATFlyer : Its an afternoon press conference at IWA so give it another hour or 2. It's not even 1PM there yet.
43 JetBlueGuy2006 : True, I am surprised it hasn't leaked in this media-age world that we live in. How many planes are they getting in the near future? With opening up I
44 Post contains links Itsnotfinals : Just got the first News release Today is an exciting day for all of us as we are pleased to announce the Airport Authority has reached an agreement wi
45 FATFlyer : They were advising a couple of months ago that they expected a fleet size of 30 by year end. It is currently 28 or 29. But it appears they are now go
46 JetBlueGuy2006 : Thats a lot of cities for a launch. Let the speculation begin on the cities until later when the announce the cities
47 CIDflyer : MLI service on G4 to the Phx area will probably be unlikey though as the press release out today states the service will be to 13 existing cities....
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