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CO 777 PEK-MSP-EWR 8/1  
User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3985 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4942 times:
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Attn MSP spotters...........tech stop in MSP tomorrow for a 777-200. Sorry, no Peter Max though. ETA in MSP is 1425 lcl time. Can anyone get any pics?? I had pics when HKG stopped 3 years ago, but always open to see more!!


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User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4747 times:

I'll try to post some pictures of the 777. Why is it doing a tech stop at MSP?


It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineCO787EWR From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4700 times:

Pilot time out I would guess.

Dutchjet?, EWRCabincrew, and CALskeds, would know most likely


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4670 times:
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only 2 pilots available on the flight coming back. will pik up a new crew in MSP.


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User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

Will the CO 777 be at Concourse G, or the concourse that CO flies out of at MSP (Concourse E)?


It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4460 times:
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it will be staged over at HHH. Just like it did back in '04 when HKG diverted to MSP.


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User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

I dug up the old airliners.net thread on the 2003 diversion of the CO B772 to MSP.
HKG-MSP On CO 777 -- Civil Aviation Forum (Sep. 3, 2003)



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User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4093 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Thread starter):
Attn MSP spotters...........tech stop in MSP tomorrow for a 777-200. Sorry, no Peter Max though. ETA in MSP is 1425 lcl time. Can anyone get any pics?? I had pics when HKG stopped 3 years ago, but always open to see more!!

Now showing ETA MSP of 15:59, est. depart MSP-EWR 17:04



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12254 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4039 times:
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Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 7):
Now showing ETA MSP of 15:59, est. depart MSP-EWR 17:04

Hmmmm.....that gives me time to get there after work.....hmmmm...... Big grin



911, where is your emergency?
User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3935 times:

Looks like the pilots timed out. The pilots who flew PEK-MSP are now deadheading MSP-EWR. I have a friend working the flight, when she lands I'll get more info.


You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 9):
Looks like the pilots timed out. The pilots who flew PEK-MSP are now deadheading MSP-EWR. I have a friend working the flight, when she lands I'll get more info.

Pilots timing out somewhere over Manitoba- F/A's will land the aircraft in MSP...  Wow!



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12254 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3848 times:
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I hope they park at Humphrey, that'll give me good views as they push back and taxi. Should get some pics on here by tonight (and hopefully some good enough for the DB)


911, where is your emergency?
User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

So now its landing at MSP at 15:59 or 14:25?


It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

Shows landing at 1559, ETD to EWR at 1704.


You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3636 times:

What's this, Continental running out of pilots at the end of the month, just like NorthWorst????
I hope not.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 14):
What's this, Continental running out of pilots at the end of the month, just like NorthWorst????
I hope not.

Pilots timing out, requiring a flight to divert to pickup/replace crew members, has happened a few time this summer on CO......for example, on two occassions so far this summer, the BRU-EWR 777 flight made a planned stop in BOS to deal with similiar crew issues. Things like this should not happen, but they do in the real world.


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 13):
Shows landing at 1559, ETD to EWR at 1704.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA88



Flightaware showing an ETA of 15:36

- the 6 minute security factor
__________________________

= ETA MSP is now 15:30



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineFlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2958 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 15):

Pilots timing out, requiring a flight to divert to pickup/replace crew members, has happened a few time this summer on CO......for example, on two occassions so far this summer, the BRU-EWR 777 flight made a planned stop in BOS to deal with similiar crew issues. Things like this should not happen, but they do in the real world.

They will happen in the real world. IIRC, in at least one of the BRU examples you noted, the crew time issue was related to a First Officer becoming sick at an out-station (other than BRU), which set off a series of "re-crewing" moves to minimize the impact. CO, like other carriers, does not staff reserve pilots at non-hub stations. In the real world, pilots do get sick during a trip pairing. It happened to me this past Spring for the first time; I had to call in sick from SEA and spent 3 nights in a hotel there until feeling well enough to travel.



A little bit louder now, a lil bit louder now...
User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Acccording to Sonic (our res system) ETA is now 1556. ETD is 1701. Always subject to change.


You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2803 times:

I got pics of it landing, I'll post the pictures soon. The CO 777 is at the Humphrey Terminal. As it was taxing to the terminal NW jets were covering it.  Silly Is there a chance it will take off on the crosswind runway (4/22 runway) towards Bloomington?


It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

Quick stop.

On the ground at 1554. In the gate at 1610. Out of the gate at 1636 and off the field at 1653.

Should be in EWR at 2003. Late 2:33.



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineRyanAFAMSP From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

I saw the CO777 on a northbound departure off the three-zeros at 4:55pm. I heard those GE90s howling and I stepped outside my office at the University of Minnesota Minneapolis campus and there it was headed due north right above Cedar Avenue. I am not used to seeing the girth and massiveness of the T7 up here in Minneapolis. It looked like a zeppelin threading its way through the clouds.

So did they take an enroute sick-leave on one of the pilots, or were they just out of coverage at the end of the month? It sounds like CO did a good job of making the stop as quick as possible, but this is still a big inconvenience for passengers on a trip that commands premium airfares - especially as I am assuming the late arrival caused a lot of misconnects. The US airlines are running absolutely razor thin right now - where they cannot handle any operational irregularities by the end of the month. Of course NW is much worse than the others, but everyone is operating in a way that significantly compromises dependability - which means that premium fares will certainly continue to be lost to overseas carriers.

But I sure wish we saw jumbos like this more often here at MSP! Oh for the days of the PA L1011s, Western DC-10s, and TWA 747s....


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

We are more than covered with pilots. There are always unmitigated circumstances that arise that hampers any given flight: Mechanicals, crew legalities, flying time (actual over scheduled), weather, sick calls down line, etc..

Flight crew are people too, things do happen.

We did and do make the best effort to minimise any delay and do our best to keep inconveniences to a minimum. Was this a huge inconvenience for our passengers? Sure it was. We do, however, have to follow rules and regulations given forth by the FAA. This is one of those times.

Kudos to the MSP ground crew for helping it be a minimum ground time.



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2509 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 25):
There are always unmitigated circumstances that arise that hampers any given flight: Mechanicals, crew legalities, flying time (actual over scheduled), weather, sick calls down line, etc..

Fair enough... just checking with that earlier question I posed.


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12254 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2434 times:
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Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 19):
Is there a chance it will take off on the crosswind runway (4/22 runway) towards Bloomington?

It took off on 30L. I was surprised how quiet it was. I'll post pics in a little bit, kinda busy with news right now.



911, where is your emergency?
25 FlyHoss : It was neither. One of the scheduled IROs was not admitted to China upon arrival and was therefore forced to immediately deadhead back to EWR. A repl
26 CO787EWR : IRO? what is that.
27 EWRCabincrew : International Relief Officer. Required when flights are longer than 8:01. One IRO needed for flights in duration of 8:01 to 12:00. Flight longer than
28 RyanAFAMSP : I fully understand and didn't mean to imply this was the pilot's fault. When I was a flight attendant I would never wave my legalities even if this m
29 Post contains links and images KaiGywer : Here are some unedited photos: Parked between HHH and 4/22: Rotating right in front of the MSP tower: Flying away over the Mpls skyline: Another inter
30 EWRCabincrew : Great pics!!! Thanks for posting them!
31 Post contains images NW748i : Maybe this is a shot over NW's bow for their adding frequencies on EWR-AMS... just to give them a hint of a future CO route!
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