Qwame From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 129 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11959 times:
Today Air India starts a direct flight between Mumbai and New York. I think given their new first and business class cabins on their brand new 777-200LR, they are going to give American and Continental some serious competition on this nonstop route.
Dbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 792 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11951 times:
Wouldn't this be competition for Delta? Don't they fly this route?
CO787EWR From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 222 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11907 times:
Qwame From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 129 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11857 times:
Well more competition for Delta,Continental and American on the non stop JFK-BOM route.
VTNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11576 times:
AI 141 BOM-JFK arrived 15 minutes early in to JFK at 6:55 AM.
First Flight, PA001 DEL-FRA-LHR-JFK; Dream- JFK-COK on a B6 787
LH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11244 times:
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 5): JFK-BOM nonstop tonight on the B 77L is pretty open
Our local AI office in SFO was pretty upset that the flight was only loaded a few weeks before the start of service. They felt there was no time to sell it, and the first flights are indeed going with light loads. But I'm sure things will pick up soon!
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is temporary; the evil it does is permanent" - Ghandi
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15727 posts, RR: 47 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11231 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 6): How would one read this in detail.Pls explain.
Generally speaking the letters start with the highest fare and descend from left to right. They may not always show all seats available and instead show a maximum of usually 4 or 9, regardless of how many seats are actually available. So in this case
...there are at least two seats available in F and A (probably both first class), at least four available in J, C, and D (probably all Business), and at least four in W, Y and B (likely all economy). As the flight sells out, they'll close the lowest fares from right to left, so if the cheapest fare is showing seats available, it's likely that there are still quite a few seats available.
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4978 posts, RR: 25 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11081 times:
Quoting Qwame (Reply 3): Well more competition for Delta,Continental and American on the non stop JFK-BOM route.
No, currently they are only competing w/DL on the nonstop JFK-BOM route. AA only flies ORD-DEL nonstop and CO currently only flies EWR-DEL nonstop. CO will begin serving BOM nonstop from EWR in October.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11019 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10): there are at least two seats available in F and A (probably both first class), at least four available in J, C, and D (probably all Business), and at least four in W, Y and B (likely all economy). As the flight sells out, they'll close the lowest fares from right to left, so if the cheapest fare is showing seats available, it's likely that there are still quite a few seats available.
Thanks.Thats educational.But how will one know the total no of seats & what does each Catergory of Alphabet represent.
regds
MEL
Aisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 757 posts, RR: 11 Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11010 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10): ...there are at least two seats available in F and A (probably both first class), at least four available in J, C, and D (probably all Business), and at least four in W, Y and B (likely all economy).
Instead of "seats available", aren't these numbers showing "bookings accepted"? You may buy these 4 seats and end up but be denied boarding due to overbooking.
Seats available to purchase are not always equal to empty seats
Boeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1259 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10998 times:
Quoting Qwame (Thread starter): Today Air India starts a direct flight between Mumbai and New York. I think given their new first and business class cabins on their brand new 777-200LR, ...
. Wake me up when they put the next 777-200 LR they get on a BLR-SFO service.
By the way is the BLR-SFO service just thinking out aloud by some AI official or is it under serious consideration?
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15727 posts, RR: 47 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10954 times:
Quoting Aisak (Reply 13): Instead of "seats available", aren't these numbers showing "bookings accepted"?
They're arguably the same thing, seeing as a (proper) airline won't sell you a seat if it believes there won't be one available, inclusive of overbookings.
AirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1546 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9545 times:
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16260 posts, RR: 52 Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8967 times:
Air India had a huge spread in the NY Times yesterday, one of the best airline ads I've ever seen IMO. At the top is a q & a with the CEO about the 777-200LR, and Air India's future plans for the 787. Expect nonstops from the US to Bangalore and Chennai.
At the bottom of the page was all about the 777-200LR and their new service features, again it was the best airline advertisement I've seen in a long time. I wish someone would scan it, my scanner is too small.
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8810 times:
Quotes:
Even as Union Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel flagged off Air India’s inaugural non-stop flight to New York amid much fanfare early on Wednesday, the flag carrier’s top brass mulled over the near-empty Boeing 777-200LR that pushed back from Mumbai’s Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport at 12:45 am.
For onboard the “historic” flight were a meagre 80-odd passengers—including a dozen freeloaders—as against the 238 seats available. Or a paltry 33 per cent load. What’s worse: things don’t appear much better for the first fortnight either.
“As per booking details available for the first 10 days, the average load will be around 40 per cent or 95 passengers per flight, which is much lower than expected,” revealed a source. During the same period, Delta Airlines—the only other airline offering a non-stop service between the two financial nerve centers—has a handful tickets available, that too in the higher classes.
Air India had opened bookings with fares over 30 per cent higher than the industry average on the sector, which were later brought at par, because of slow bookings. Yet, Air India’s target of a 75 per cent average load factor—roughly 178 seats—on the popular route seem far off: the poorest capacity will be on their second flight, with merely 56 passengers holding reservations, followed by the third flight that will have as few as 62 fliers.
VTNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8686 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 19): I wish someone would scan it, my scanner is too small.
Aapne farmaya aur humne...... Not too bad of a job stitching the pics together in five minutes though. Click the pictures for full size image.
First Flight, PA001 DEL-FRA-LHR-JFK; Dream- JFK-COK on a B6 787
Mk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8642 times:
AI needs a IAD-DEL/BOM non-stop to fill the loads...hehehehe j/k
I am sure the loads will eventually pick up, JFK is a huge market for AI, but starting IAD won't be a bad idea (no non-stop to India). So get those planes and start the IAD service
come fly with me
25 FLYGUY767: The rumor says that United Airlines is looking at IAD-BOM with the 777... -JD
26 VTNYC: I think all these cities will eventually get their own service from one of the airlines in India, if not daily at least thrice a week or so. I have f
27 Jacobin777: ...their de-rated and lower MTOW B777's won't have the legs to do with with a decent load of pax/cargo...it would be weight restricted. ..gosh, talk
28 Boeing747_600: Hey Mk777, get in line will ya?!!! I've got a DAL (yes DAL, not DFW) - BLR service on my wishlist already!
29 Nimish: That would be surprising given the absolute lack of interest that UA have recently shown in restarting service to India. And given that they don't ha
30 Mk777: I am sure IAD will commence sooner than DAL or even DFW... so you might wish to join the line behind me.... But i am sure AI has a plan for expansion
31 Boeing747_600: regarding DAL, I forgot to mention that also on my wish-list is the Wright Amendment getting its much deserved fatal kick in the teeth.
32 Bwest: I suppose this is partly a reaction from Air India to Jet Airways new routes that go via BRU ? They are keen to emphasise the "non stop" part in the a
33 BoeingBoy: Check out the arrival times over the next 2 weeks ? This is a loss leader flight for AI - it will never do as well as JFK-LHR-BOM
34 Feroze: Can someone tell me how BOM-JFK-BOM can be a daily flight when they currently only have the one 772LR?
35 Comorin: I just landed at JFK a few hours ago on VS045 and I must say the new AI 777 looks beautiful. It was parked behind the usual 747 and it looked a lot sh
36 PNQIAD: This would make perfect sense if AI is eventually going to join *A - IAD-BOM could be a codeshare between AI and UA. Actually coming to think of it -
37 Vtnyc: 6:40 on 8/2 VT-ALA and VT-ALC have been delivered. What is the status of VT-ALB?
39 Mtsubshe: Since the aircraft is sitting for 14 hrs at JFK, will it be the same crews flying it back to india, or a different set of crews
40 Sshank: This would make sense if UA showed any interest in operating to India. The last I checked with my friends at UA, I was told to not hold my breath. The
41 VTNYC: RE: Air India Shows Off New Colours (by Flyvabb Jul 29 2007 in Civil Aviation)
42 HAWK21M: Are you saying there are Two B772LRs in the country. regds MEL
43 Vimanav: This ad was splashed in the TOI as well about a week ago. Here's something that intrigued me: I see a very common error in the assembly of snap on ty
44 VTNYC: Affirmative, Andhra Pradesh and Assam, if we are to believe Cricket. Also a daily BOM-JFK cannot be operated with one aircraft. Arunachal Pradesh sho
47 Sammyk: I believe it arrived the same day as -ALA. From what I've seen/read -ALC was the one that was escorted by the fighters while -ALA was on the ground.
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