N62NA From United States, joined Aug 2003, 1557 posts, RR: 3 Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4487 times:
From today's Miami Herald:
Allegiant Air plans mini-hub at Lauderdale airport
Allegiant Air will base a hub in Fort Lauderdale, with flights to 12 domestic cities not currently served, beginning Nov. 14. It will also create a crew base here.
Low-cost carrier Allegiant Air is creating a mini-hub at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport this fall, with service to 12 destinations in the Northeast, Midwest and Southeast.
I thought FLL was bursting at the seams? Will be interesting to see how they will handle all these additional flights.
Dbo861 From United States, joined May 2004, 447 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4465 times:
Quoting N62NA (Thread starter): Allegiant Air will base a hub in Fort Lauderdale, with flights to 12 domestic cities not currently served, beginning Nov. 14. It will also create a crew base here.
Does that mean 12 domestic cities not currently served from FLL or 12 cities not served by Allegiant?
The airline -- now led by some of the founders of ValuJet Airlines -- today will be announcing Fort Lauderdale service beginning Nov. 14. The carrier will not start naming the cities it will serve from Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood until Aug. 9
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 24603 posts, RR: 72 Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4385 times:
I think that the eleven currently served destinations will be:
Allentown, PA
Belleville, IL
Des Moines, IA
Greensboro, NC
Greenville, SC
Huntsville, AL
Knoxville, TN
Lansing, MI
Peoria, IL
Roanoke, VA
Rockford, IL
As for the one not currently served by Allegiant: What mid-sized Northeast city has decent Southwest air service but has no non-stops to South Florida despite having over 500 daily O&D passengers to the area? Albany, New York is my guess.
Quoting N62NA (Thread starter):
I thought FLL was bursting at the seams? Will be interesting to see how they will handle all these additional flights.
Delta, American, and US Airways scaled back drastically (though AA is building up, again). The "bursting" is at Spirit's Terminal 4. T1 is a little crowded, but plenty of space at T2 and T3 (though Delta doesn't share at T2, so its a safe bet Allegiant will be at T3).
PVD757 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 3205 posts, RR: 19 Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4315 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7): As for the one not currently served by Allegiant: What mid-sized Northeast city has decent Southwest air service but has no non-stops to South Florida despite having over 500 daily O&D passengers to the area? Albany, New York is my guess.
G4 tends to avoid cities served by WN. The traffic is definately there though, so it's not impossible. If G4 stays close to it's model, it could open up somthing like ILG, TTN, etc.
N710PS From United States, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4210 times:
I would love to see them at one of the NY or Long Island airports going to FLL as they could continue to tap the NY to Florida market and at ISP the competition is WN while at FRG there are no other airlines though if I am not mistaken though it has been a while FRG could accomidate an airline operation of smaller size like G4.
There is plenty of room for Gods animals, right next to the mashed potatoes!
FATFlyer From United States, joined May 2001, 4848 posts, RR: 35 Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4199 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7): As for the one not currently served by Allegiant: What mid-sized Northeast city has decent Southwest air service but has no non-stops to South Florida despite having over 500 daily O&D passengers to the area? Albany, New York is my guess.
I've pondered some places a little further north. I note the success attracting Canaidans across the border to BLI and wonder if they could recreate that in the east.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
Boeing743 From United States, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4144 times:
I thought that Allegiant already has mini hub at Orlando. Spirit already operation out of FLL and FLL do not need more mini hub due that there is already too much airlines flows in this airport. I am wonder if they can handle another airlines with more passengers and traffic??
Jetpixx From United States, joined exactly 5 years ago today! , 762 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4141 times:
Maybe they'll take a swipe at Skybus and fly to CEF, LCK or PSM? I'd love it if they flew to ISP, however...
There might be a pretty good market for Allegiant to FLL if they flew ELM, HVN, ILG, ORH, PWM or TTN...or maybe even PNE?
I think ABE is almost a given, as far as current cities served - and then of course the Midwest with bi-weekly or tri-weekly flights.
RedTailDTW From United States, joined Oct 2006, 635 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4048 times:
Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 13): I thought that Allegiant already has mini hub at Orlando. Spirit already operation out of FLL and FLL do not need more mini hub due that there is already too much airlines flows in this airport. I am wonder if they can handle another airlines with more passengers and traffic??
Well Allegiant will only take up one or two gates because they will only have around 5 or 6 flights a day since they don't serve every city every day. And also it opens up more destinations into FLL.
YNGguins From United States, joined Jun 2007, 239 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4025 times:
Here's to hoping YNG is on that list!
We had 93% loads for the first half of 2007, but still only have 2 flights per week. CLE-PIT-CAK are killing us with fares because our yields are LOW!
National757 From United States, joined Jul 2007, 679 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3935 times:
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12): I've pondered some places a little further north. I note the success attracting Canaidans across the border to BLI and wonder if they could recreate that in the east.
What do you think about Plattsburgh, NY? Only an hour south of Montreal..could end up being the Bellingham of the east cost.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 24603 posts, RR: 72 Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3869 times:
Another possibility for the new destination might be Wilmington, NC. There is a lot of traffic from Wilmington to South Florida because of the film industry, and ILM has been pushing really hard for MIA or FLL service for a while now. They were in discussions last year with AirTran for FLL-ILM (alongside ATL-ILM), but they didn't go far.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 24603 posts, RR: 72 Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3759 times:
A few years ago Allegiant applied for permission to fly to Canada. Fort Lauderdale could be the perfect launching place for Canadian service. Not only is South Florida a tourist mecca for Canadians from all over, but there is a lot of VFR traffic traveling between South Florida and Canada year-round. I forgot the exact figure, but something like 11-13% of G4's Las Vegas traffic originates in Vegas. If they pick the right markets, I bet Allegiant could get up to 25% originating traffic from FLL on certain routes, particularly to the Northeast.
National757 From United States, joined Jul 2007, 679 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3684 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23): forgot the exact figure, but something like 11-13% of G4's Las Vegas traffic originates in Vegas.
I can vouch for that from personal experience. I was surprised at the number of Las Vegas addresses I see every day on Allegiant bags. Didn't think it would be so high!
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23): I bet Allegiant could get up to 25% originating traffic from FLL on certain routes, particularly to the Northeast.
Is that what G4 is after though? You can't sell cruises and south Florida Hotels to passengers from the FLL area. I would think Allegiant prefers originating focus city traffic to be closer to 5 or 10%.
Buddys747 From United States, joined Jan 2007, 305 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3672 times:
Quoting BatonOps (Reply 16): It would be nice to see MDT on that list of cities to see service to FLL.
Absolutely
26 G4resagent: Ha! I highly doubt we will go back.
27 MAH4546: No, it's not what they are necessarily after, but typically tickets sold without packages yield more profit. Not sure if that's how it works for Alle
28 SkyyMaster: This was my first thought before I ever opened up the thread. FLL always seems packed to me. We have to remember though G4 rarely does daily service,
29 MAH4546: Two airports are already asking people to vote, although it is not guarantee that the voting results will bring non-stop service to either: Cedar Rapi
30 ShannoninAMA: Cant wait until they announce the cities! ill put my on MDT ABE ALB being some of the cities Shan
31 Jetpixx: After carefully examining their route structure, I am going to guess: Following existing cities to FLL: Allentown, PA (ABE) - 4x wk Bangor, ME (BGR) -
32 JetBlueGuy2006: Good List, but you only have 9 existing, so I would also put LAN & FWA to the list because Florida is a major attraction to people here in Michigan,
33 CIDflyer: I would definitley add PIA to the list as a possibility too, they have been one of G4's top cities. I voted online for the CID airport poll, I would l
34 OB1504: That, and I would imagine that as long as they stayed out of Terminal 4, things shouldn't be too bad. The extension of Runway 09R/27L should be a gre
35 Mkirch72: I'm still waiting on YNG-PIE!! Any word on this?
36 YNGguins: They won't go to CAK, way too much competition there between Airtran and Delta; and they already are doing very well at YNG with 98% loads in March a
37 Sflaflight: YES! YES! YES! Well, could my dream of non stop FLL - ALB and BTV be coming true finally. As someone who flies to Montreal quite regularly, I'm game
38 CIDflyer: Plattsburgh definitely seems like it could work as an "East Coast BLI". With Montreal an hour away it could attract some of those passengers. Could al
39 Airbusaddict: Could Sioux Falls or Des Moines be on the list? I know that if Allegiant starts either to PHX and/or FLL they get 50,000 dollars for each route for ad
40 JetBlueGuy2006: I would expect those to both be on either or both of the list along with Peoria, Rockford, FWA, ABE, LAN and TOL
41 STT757: I can see Allegiant in TTN, it's perfectly situated along I-95 close to Princeton, Trenton NJ, Bucks, Montgomery County PA, 27 miles North of Center
42 CIDflyer: I would expect FSD to be on the list for the Phoenix service, and DSM to be on the list for FLL service. I don't think DSM is a lock for the IWA (Phx
43 WorldTraveler: this will be fun to watch... a kickfest between Spirit and Allegiant.
44 National757: I don't know if we should expect much of a response from Spirit. Both carriers serve different markets with G4 focusing on secondary airports and NK
45 Humberside: Could an MD-80 do TTN-LAS? I dont think so because if it could, I would have expected G4 to have added Allentown/SWF-LAS
46 Airwave: Interesting. According to this page, G4 (or at least the LNAA) is looking into expanding service from ABE. The page lists four options: FLL, RSW, PHX
47 YNGguins: This is the airport trying to get additional flights with Allegiant, not really G4 looking at expanding at LVIA. Other airports with similar Campaign
48 Airbusaddict: And: Sioux Falls, SD --- http://www.sfairport.com
49 Airwave: Ah, good enough, it's what I figured. Still and all though, it would be nice to see PHX or LAS. Maybe a bit of Arizona/Nevada dreaming on my part, bu
50 G4resagent: Allegiant has announced ABE and CHA to FLL. CHA - FLL will begin service December 13. Flights will be Tuesday, Thursday, and Sunday. http://www.alleg
51 DTWAGENT: How in the hack are they going to pull this off. That airport can't handle any more flights and that airport has a noise curfew so they can not do lat
52 MAH4546: The airport can easily handle more flights. Delta heavily cut their RJ flights which was a huge relief on runway capacity. US Airways also slashed se
53 Flyinryan99: Do you think we'll see AirTran ramp up FLL operaions too? They have 2 gates there right? They could add a gate too, I would think.
54 MAH4546: AirTran is very, very flipy-flopy on their FLL routes. So many routes come and go, while others that are supposed to be year-round quickly go seasona
55 JetBlueGuy2006: Very interesting.... I would have thought they would have tried more seasonal first and if they performed well go to year around. I am thinking Lansi
56 Tornado82: No, it can't, at least not from a 6006' runway like TTN's. Most if not all of the ABE-IFP/RNO charters that G4 has run had fuel stops (SLN comes to m
57 G4resagent: The countdown has started over... another announcement is scheduled for 6PM Pacific time tonight. TYS - FLL service begins November 15th.
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